On June 07 2014 18:19 Ultimo Hombre wrote:
poor Fenrir never gets any love due to the sheer awesome of Fy
poor Fenrir never gets any love due to the sheer awesome of Fy
That's why we need to always talk in terms of F&F, Fenrir and Fy!
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Titusmaster6
United States5932 Posts
On June 07 2014 18:19 Ultimo Hombre wrote: poor Fenrir never gets any love due to the sheer awesome of Fy That's why we need to always talk in terms of F&F, Fenrir and Fy! | ||
ForTehDarkseid
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sunnata
Russian Federation228 Posts
Hope they'll learn from this tournament, third place isn't that bad, but I hope they'll aim (and perform) for top spot in ESL One. | ||
opterown
Australia54649 Posts
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rabidch
United States20286 Posts
On June 09 2014 12:20 sunnata wrote: I think they should consider switching some player positions. In my opinion, fy's potential isn't being used completely. He already makes some game-changing plays on support heroes, but it really feels like mid is where he truly belongs to, and his impact on the game could be bigger. Also, from what I saw, Super's and rOtk's performance was pretty underwhelming at The Summit. Drafting should be rehashed too, very strange Enchantress first-round picks. Hope they'll learn from this tournament, third place isn't that bad, but I hope they'll aim (and perform) for top spot in ESL One. its not specifically a VG problem: chinas overvaluing enchantress right now. its still a very good hero, but not first round pickable | ||
Ultimo Hombre
Australia1436 Posts
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bearbuddy
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I do wish that Super would play more of an initiator and rOtK a little less of one. rOtK essentially plays 4 heroes-- bat, doom, nature's prophet, and clock, and when he's shut down or makes rOtK plays, the role of initiation rests solely on Fy. Super can get more reliable farm at mid, and we know he can play heroes like storm spirit quite well. | ||
tauon
Australia1278 Posts
On June 09 2014 13:28 bearbuddy wrote: I don't think VG should switch their player positions. The thing that Fy does exceptionally well is how much he can do with little farm. Give him a blink dagger and he can make things happen. I do wish that Super would play more of an initiator and rOtK a little less of one. rOtK essentially plays 4 heroes-- bat, doom, nature's prophet, and clock, and when he's shut down or makes rOtK plays, the role of initiation rests solely on Fy. Super can get more reliable farm at mid, and we know he can play heroes like storm spirit quite well. Don't forget bristles. bb feels like such an rOtk hero. | ||
bearbuddy
3442 Posts
On June 12 2014 11:16 tauon wrote: Show nested quote + On June 09 2014 13:28 bearbuddy wrote: I don't think VG should switch their player positions. The thing that Fy does exceptionally well is how much he can do with little farm. Give him a blink dagger and he can make things happen. I do wish that Super would play more of an initiator and rOtK a little less of one. rOtK essentially plays 4 heroes-- bat, doom, nature's prophet, and clock, and when he's shut down or makes rOtK plays, the role of initiation rests solely on Fy. Super can get more reliable farm at mid, and we know he can play heroes like storm spirit quite well. Don't forget bristles. bb feels like such an rOtk hero. Yeah, but I've seen Sylar play that hero more often than rOtK | ||
Titusmaster6
United States5932 Posts
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ForTehDarkseid
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opterown
Australia54649 Posts
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schmitty9800
United States390 Posts
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bearbuddy
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opterown
Australia54649 Posts
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Caladbolg
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TRAP[yoo]
Hungary6026 Posts
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fixed_point
Germany4891 Posts
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Snakesneaks
Italy2652 Posts
On June 09 2014 12:20 sunnata wrote: I think they should consider switching some player positions. In my opinion, fy's potential isn't being used completely. He already makes some game-changing plays on support heroes, but it really feels like mid is where he truly belongs to, and his impact on the game could be bigger. Also, from what I saw, Super's and rOtk's performance was pretty underwhelming at The Summit. Drafting should be rehashed too, very strange Enchantress first-round picks. Hope they'll learn from this tournament, third place isn't that bad, but I hope they'll aim (and perform) for top spot in ESL One. Consistently making plays and winning 1v1 tournaments do not make you a good solomid. That position requires more than those. But this post indeed pointed the right direction into VG main problem : no playmakers. Super is always passive laner, but he could make it up with his teamfight and midgame control. Kinda like S4 except Super sucks on them now. Meanwhile, ROTK is never a playmaker. They lead to heavy burden to fy and Sylar. fy is a great support, but since he makes all VG plays, no wonder people keep hyping him up to the extent of the overrating. And poor Sylar, he must opt for midgame carry and cannot maximise his heropool because of his team limitation. With no one holding midgame, he will rarely pick any farmer because the opponent will steamroll first. So, seriously Super, step up your game. | ||
Ultimo Hombre
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