EPTDkPhobos back to Polar, but its Vilat so this is just a rumour for now.
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maze.
Germany1392 Posts
DkPhobos back to Polar, but its Vilat so this is just a rumour for now. | ||
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govie
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midou
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strayfire
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yoky would never abandon such a promising Empire lineup to play for Na'Vi... I know I got flak for suggesting this, but Na'Vi.ArtStyle honestly seems to be in the cards. | ||
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govie
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HaXxorIzed
Australia8434 Posts
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TRAP[yoo]
Hungary6026 Posts
On April 04 2015 23:46 govie wrote: they better off asking beesa. if artstyle was that good then why he quit? cause hes not good. hes average at best | ||
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strayfire
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The reason he left Na'Vi after TI was because he disagreed with how much of the prize money the Na'Vi management wanted from the players as overhead. I'm not sure what the status of all that is now, but ZeroGravity has brought up ArtStyle in several interviews that have taken place over the course of all these roster changes and doesn't seem opposed to bringing him back. | ||
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FHDH
United States7023 Posts
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Bisu-Fan
Russian Federation3336 Posts
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TRAP[yoo]
Hungary6026 Posts
On April 05 2015 00:41 strayfire wrote: A captain/drafter is what Na'Vi need and that's what ArtStyle is, not to mention that ArtStyle was most recently playing offlane for SFZ... He's played with Dendi and XBOCT before, winning TI with them, and although he may not be as good, in relative terms, as he once was, he is still on a much higher individual skill level than Goblak. The reason he left Na'Vi after TI was because he disagreed with how much of the prize money the Na'Vi management wanted from the players as overhead. I'm not sure what the status of all that is now, but ZeroGravity has brought up ArtStyle in several interviews that have taken place over the course of all these roster changes and doesn't seem opposed to bringing him back. sorry but winning the first ti doesnt mean much imo. and even if you considered him good at that time of the first ti he managed to get average in less than a year (darer) | ||
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Seraphic
United States3849 Posts
On April 05 2015 00:55 Bisu-Fan wrote: UGH I actually was thinking about this yesterday, and I came to the conclusion that DKPhobos was the weakest link in Na'vi's squad, but I hate seeing him leave... Na'Vi showing signs of so much desperation for TI5 when I wouldn't mind them just taking some time and rebuilding steadily bit by bit... le sigh Problem is they don't have much time. It's April, the invites will be out soon and they don't even have a full line-up ready yet. At the moment, I see Na'Vi just as bad as Alliance several months ago. They have this revolving door going on for the 2 months. At this rate, they really won't be direct invite, I don't think they even will with a full line-up. The one thing they don't have is time, and that's sadly what they need. | ||
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FHDH
United States7023 Posts
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MyrMindservant
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On April 05 2015 05:29 FHDH wrote: Bad management = bad team. Kind of true, but for entirely different reasons. All their problems started precisely because management allowed players to "solve their own issues". Recently there was a podcast with v1lat, fng, NS and ARS-ART where they discussed the big shuffle in CIS region. Among other things they mentioned that Na'Vi started to crumble after ZeroGravity stopped keeping players and teams' affairs on his personal control. ARS-ART said that Na'Vi constantly had internal issues and conflicts, even when they were winning everything right and left. Team wanted to disband for at least five times during its life even before TI3 and the only reason why they didn't was because ZeroGravity was working personally with players to solve their communication issues and conflicts. Some time after TI3 he decided to distance himself from all it and do what CEO is supposed to do rather than be mediator between players. All Na'Vi roster changes after TI4 were initiated by players themselves. Here is a link to podcast, if anyone is interested, but it's in russian and there are no subtitles so I'm not sure if it will be useful to you. | ||
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FHDH
United States7023 Posts
You don't let the inmates run the prison. | ||
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Bisu-Fan
Russian Federation3336 Posts
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Seraphic
United States3849 Posts
On April 05 2015 06:59 Bisu-Fan wrote: Well It's really sad that Na'Vi as an organization got too big for ZeroGravity to micromanage. Like post TI2 he was so involved with the squad and I guess now we see what happens when he's not there... Na'Vi need to get managers who can do what ZG did for each of their teams (if they don't already) And seeing from the past few posts, the management has gotten a lot more lax when that shouldn't be the case for an organization to run professionally. ZG doesn't need to. Starix is coach for the CS:GO side, ZG can still manage the DotA 2 side personally. Hell he should, it seems to be that he was the only one that held the team together. Their WoT's team is winning left right and center from what I can tell so they are perfectly fine. DotA 2 is their biggest show (or... CS:GO but... CS:Go isn't CS 1.6.), if this continues and Na'Vi misses out on TI5, would ZG continue to take that? He wants success, so do all of us. What is he going to do? Buy Team Secret? lol. | ||
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Kabras
Romania3508 Posts
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meegrean
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FHDH
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