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LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
July 23 2016 08:53 GMT
#3861
I assume people looked at streaks and got way more influenced than they should
Na'Vi was the closest to take down super on-form Wings, have been beating strong teams consistently
Only really straight up got outplayed by OG/TL who are top2 teams last few months and that got in their head.

Where EG has been dominating NA scrubs, Got rekt by and then beat Col who are not on form, same with DC
So got themselves ridiculous winrate since open qualifier started, I can see why people would overvalue that
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-23 13:43:58
July 23 2016 13:40 GMT
#3862
On July 23 2016 11:23 ratedBlade wrote:
I've said it somewhere else before this match. Navi aint gonna lose to EG if they aren't gonna go full 322 mode. Yeah not happening because they are clearly the better team. EG has played against weak opponents and in game against CDEC.Y they looked shaky. Zai hasn't played pro dota in a year and sumail isn't anywhere to close to his form last year which EG desperately needs if they want to break through. That being said, it was hilarious to see people overrate OG so much.

0.38 vs 2.38 odds on VPgame LOL

You mean Storm Spirit isn't anywhere close to his form last year, right?

Edit: Also, for those who whined about Dendi not leaving midlane.. there you go.
ratedBlade
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada33 Posts
July 23 2016 17:45 GMT
#3863
On July 23 2016 22:40 Racket wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2016 11:23 ratedBlade wrote:
I've said it somewhere else before this match. Navi aint gonna lose to EG if they aren't gonna go full 322 mode. Yeah not happening because they are clearly the better team. EG has played against weak opponents and in game against CDEC.Y they looked shaky. Zai hasn't played pro dota in a year and sumail isn't anywhere to close to his form last year which EG desperately needs if they want to break through. That being said, it was hilarious to see people overrate OG so much.

0.38 vs 2.38 odds on VPgame LOL

You mean Storm Spirit isn't anywhere close to his form last year, right?

Edit: Also, for those who whined about Dendi not leaving midlane.. there you go.


Its not about Storm. Its about Sumail as a player. He's played a lot of different heroes and his performances were all average. Whereas last year he shined every game on whatever hero u put him on
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
July 23 2016 18:19 GMT
#3864
The meta favored playmakers and let them shine way more. Even Dendi the playmaker god had to adapt, Sumail just isn't there yet and they seem like navi 6months ago
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
July 23 2016 18:36 GMT
#3865
How do you expect your mid to shine when he had to face a huskar with io lane. Let's be real
ratedBlade
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada33 Posts
July 23 2016 18:53 GMT
#3866
On July 24 2016 03:36 DucK- wrote:
How do you expect your mid to shine when he had to face a huskar with io lane. Let's be real



I didn't blame him for that. But he didn't shine in any other game this EG has played
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
July 23 2016 23:28 GMT
#3867
First time Dendi is the favorite in a series against Puppey
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
July 24 2016 01:57 GMT
#3868
NaVi doesn't ban Drow, I have seen it only once. Are they trying to learn how to beat her or just thick heads?
ratedBlade
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada33 Posts
July 24 2016 02:05 GMT
#3869
On July 24 2016 10:57 Racket wrote:
NaVi doesn't ban Drow, I have seen it only once. Are they trying to learn how to beat her or just thick heads?

Obviously they are trying to find ways to counter it. They aren't the type of team to disrespect the strongest strat in the meta right now especially when they've lost it numerous times. This isn't too bad what they've done. They've discovered that Huskar + Wisp + lane dominators rape drow. Unfortunately for them, wisp will be banned against them almost every game now. I think the drafts they've tried could work again, but they'll have to ban the healers. For example in 2nd game against Secret, if there were like Lion and Dark Seer instead of aba and oracle then it would be an easy game for them.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
July 24 2016 08:35 GMT
#3870
On July 24 2016 10:57 Racket wrote:
NaVi doesn't ban Drow, I have seen it only once. Are they trying to learn how to beat her or just thick heads?

They need to learn how to beat it before TI, I support their decision to let it through.

If they'll have to auto expend a first ban on drow in every game against better teams during TI it could carry a handicap that prevents them a good finish (which is TOP8 I'd say)
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
July 24 2016 09:07 GMT
#3871
On July 24 2016 17:35 LemOn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 10:57 Racket wrote:
NaVi doesn't ban Drow, I have seen it only once. Are they trying to learn how to beat her or just thick heads?

They need to learn how to beat it before TI, I support their decision to let it through.

If they'll have to auto expend a first ban on drow in every game against better teams during TI it could carry a handicap that prevents them a good finish (which is TOP8 I'd say)

I also think is good to learn how to deal with it, but even teams like OG and TL ban her. I just ask them to try the first game and the second ban her, for the sake of winning a tournament after so long.

This is their only chance to win a tournament in like a year and wasting it like that feels so sad.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-24 13:30:05
July 24 2016 09:26 GMT
#3872
I don't like the batrider opening. He can get shut down if offline when prepared. And if there are counters, the hero just becomes irrelevant. Hope they learn!
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
July 24 2016 09:48 GMT
#3873
On July 24 2016 18:07 Racket wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 17:35 LemOn wrote:
On July 24 2016 10:57 Racket wrote:
NaVi doesn't ban Drow, I have seen it only once. Are they trying to learn how to beat her or just thick heads?

They need to learn how to beat it before TI, I support their decision to let it through.

If they'll have to auto expend a first ban on drow in every game against better teams during TI it could carry a handicap that prevents them a good finish (which is TOP8 I'd say)

I also think is good to learn how to deal with it, but even teams like OG and TL ban her. I just ask them to try the first game and the second ban her, for the sake of winning a tournament after so long.

This is their only chance to win a tournament in like a year and wasting it like that feels so sad.

Well I doubt they feel that way. The only people that want them to prioritise a tournament like this are fans right now, not even themselves...

Every single better place at TI gives you ridiculously higher prize money compared to tournaments like this one, by far the most fans watch the event... And if letting drow through against a really good team so they can analyze the games, learn from them and come up with counters for TI means they'll go from 1st to 3rd in Starladder but from 9th to 8th at TI I'm all for it.
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-24 19:00:00
July 24 2016 10:22 GMT
#3874
On July 24 2016 18:48 LemOn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 18:07 Racket wrote:
On July 24 2016 17:35 LemOn wrote:
On July 24 2016 10:57 Racket wrote:
NaVi doesn't ban Drow, I have seen it only once. Are they trying to learn how to beat her or just thick heads?

They need to learn how to beat it before TI, I support their decision to let it through.

If they'll have to auto expend a first ban on drow in every game against better teams during TI it could carry a handicap that prevents them a good finish (which is TOP8 I'd say)

I also think is good to learn how to deal with it, but even teams like OG and TL ban her. I just ask them to try the first game and the second ban her, for the sake of winning a tournament after so long.

This is their only chance to win a tournament in like a year and wasting it like that feels so sad.

Well I doubt they feel that way. The only people that want them to prioritise a tournament like this are fans right now, not even themselves...

Every single better place at TI gives you ridiculously higher prize money compared to tournaments like this one, by far the most fans watch the event... And if letting drow through against a really good team so they can analyze the games, learn from them and come up with counters for TI means they'll go from 1st to 3rd in Starladder but from 9th to 8th at TI I'm all for it.

True

Edit: Welp, I gonna miss both series, I hate timezones... Good luck and enjoy the games guys.
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
July 25 2016 02:31 GMT
#3875
Navi, Navi, Navi! Ditya Ra was truck, he smashed!
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
July 25 2016 02:31 GMT
#3876
YES YES YES YES YES
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
[Erasmus]
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia286 Posts
July 25 2016 02:32 GMT
#3877
Na'Vi!!!

great series.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
July 25 2016 02:34 GMT
#3878
WE DID IT WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
July 25 2016 02:39 GMT
#3879
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
ratedBlade
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada33 Posts
July 25 2016 02:40 GMT
#3880
Yep no Oracle, Venge, Dazzle shit like that and Drow is food.


Its funny how after the Manila Major people laughed at Navi fans for saying we could beat teams outside of big 4. And u look at the stats now, we've beaten everyone outside of Wings, OG, Newbie and Liquid. They even owned Fanatic 3 series in a row
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