EPTNa`Vi Discussion - Page 195
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wims80
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EnumaAvalon
Philippines3613 Posts
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
Not unexpected though given that fnatic was the only team on par with Navi in term of recent performance. Both EG and Secret were still recovering from their slump. The best thing that I got out of this tournament was that the boys can now play from behind and still win. They have always been good at rolling over teams in early/mid game. This certainly added a lot to the horizon. Now with extra cash, it's time for a 4-week therapy session to get over the OG/Liquid mental block XD | ||
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Bisu-Fan
Russian Federation3339 Posts
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
General though. Monster of a playmaker. When you don't shut him down, he just controls the game. Overall navi's problems are still the same. I don't see them beating og or newbee. Liquid or wings look doable to me though, because they don't hard counter our style. Hope for a good draw in ti. We can go very far if the dota gods permit! | ||
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Racket
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spudde123
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deadmau
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Salazarz
Korea (South)2591 Posts
On July 25 2016 13:47 DucK- wrote: Ditya playing the loda role: just make use of the space the team makes and play stable solid carry dota. I hope navi doesn't give him timber/axe anymore like in past tournaments. Guy shouldn't be tasked to make plays. He just need to carry normally, because that's what he is really good at! General though. Monster of a playmaker. When you don't shut him down, he just controls the game. Overall navi's problems are still the same. I don't see them beating og or newbee. Liquid or wings look doable to me though, because they don't hard counter our style. Hope for a good draw in ti. We can go very far if the dota gods permit! I honestly wish they had this lineup + Xboct instead of DityaRa. Not that I hate DityaRa or anything but he just seems to lack that threat factor (kind of like EE lolz). | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
On July 24 2016 19:22 Racket wrote: True Edit: Welp, I gonna miss both series, I hate timezones... Good luck and enjoy the games guys. Eh scratch all that my friend. They let it through on purpose in the Winner's bracket to analyze replays And then pwn the very same team few hours later when they let Secret pick it again! Genius move in the WB finals, and suddenly Na'Vi became even more dangerous. TOP8 would still be great success at TI But I doubt anyone would be much surprised if they manage to go all the way at take the whole thing down. | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
On July 25 2016 16:26 Salazarz wrote: I honestly wish they had this lineup + Xboct instead of DityaRa. Not that I hate DityaRa or anything but he just seems to lack that threat factor (kind of like EE lolz). Well I welcome someone stable when the +4 love to go chaotic. That way at least I know space created is well utilised. It's not like Ditya is always super passive when Navi goes davai. He is capable of joining them, but he just doesn't make plays on his own usually. Several games where he choked, it's usually cuz navi relied on him to make plays. That's not gonna work well imo. | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
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Dysisa
Sweden2376 Posts
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GOHF
United States1864 Posts
On July 25 2016 16:26 Salazarz wrote: I honestly wish they had this lineup + Xboct instead of DityaRa. Not that I hate DityaRa or anything but he just seems to lack that threat factor (kind of like EE lolz). I honestly wish that never happens because they'd descend back into the dumpster again. | ||
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Bisu-Fan
Russian Federation3339 Posts
On July 25 2016 17:14 DucK- wrote: Well I welcome someone stable when the +4 love to go chaotic. That way at least I know space created is well utilised. It's not like Ditya is always super passive when Navi goes davai. He is capable of joining them, but he just doesn't make plays on his own usually. Several games where he choked, it's usually cuz navi relied on him to make plays. That's not gonna work well imo. I think that Ditya and Navi thrive together when sonneiko is playing wisp because it allows ditya to join all the fights he really needs to participate in. This is why his lycan is also very good; he farms like crazy and manages to get a lot done while his team tries to wreak havoc and then he joins when he needs to by running in like a calculated mad man. Maybe give him spectre/NP as well? | ||
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Quang3011
Vietnam16 Posts
On July 25 2016 13:47 DucK- wrote: Ditya playing the loda role: just make use of the space the team makes and play stable solid carry dota. I hope navi doesn't give him timber/axe anymore like in past tournaments. Guy shouldn't be tasked to make plays. He just need to carry normally, because that's what he is really good at! General though. Monster of a playmaker. When you don't shut him down, he just controls the game. Overall navi's problems are still the same. I don't see them beating og or newbee. Liquid or wings look doable to me though, because they don't hard counter our style. Hope for a good draw in ti. We can go very far if the dota gods permit! They probably will beat Newbee if they dont careful enough. Navi are the master laners and early doorknockers. But they also learn how to play lategame with huge proficency. If Hao get starved early and the team start fast pushing, Newbee probably gonna have a bad time. OG & liquid is probably just a mental thing. If they can take a game out of their hands, they probably gonna win them. | ||
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hunter_x
Germany2762 Posts
On July 25 2016 22:33 Quang3011 wrote: They probably will beat Newbee if they dont careful enough. Navi are the master laners and early doorknockers. But they also learn how to play lategame with huge proficency. If Hao get starved early and the team start fast pushing, Newbee probably gonna have a bad time. OG & liquid is probably just a mental thing. If they can take a game out of their hands, they probably gonna win them. stay humble bro;) Just because they won a tournament without all the best teams doesnt mean they can beat anyone now. Still a good achievement for navi. Seems like the right teammates got the ti invite. | ||
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Faruko
Chile34173 Posts
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Quang3011
Vietnam16 Posts
On July 25 2016 23:47 hunter_x wrote: stay humble bro;) Just because they won a tournament without all the best teams doesnt mean they can beat anyone now. Still a good achievement for navi. Seems like the right teammates got the ti invite. This win is a good morale boost. And those 15 min games are something. Newbee probably know about the Huskar'd thing. But seriously, if they let GeneRaL get SK, I dont know if they could last more than 30 minutes with Hao somewhat having farm. | ||
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
Edit: Though it's likely that Navi will face OG in the first KO round, gets booted to LB and matched with Liquid so yea ... Dota god can be a dick sometimes. | ||
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