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Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
September 05 2015 22:19 GMT
#2661
On September 06 2015 03:00 DucK- wrote:
I'm pretty sure navi has zero idea how to beat PL.

I dont think the line up was that bad, they had a lot of things to kill pl and storm.

But you cant pick enigma and not have a single decent black hole the entire game, that was the problem, if funn1k had a decent game that was a 100% win for navi (and xboct not going full 4 in that midlane dead lmao)
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
September 06 2015 01:37 GMT
#2662
Well they only had their new captain for a few days, EG sadboys line up didn't demolish everyone from the start, takes time to build teamwork. Vega was already a good team, not surprising to see the teams with the least shuffle doing well this qualifier. Hopefully Navi doesn't panic, puts in practice, has PSM, who seems like a cool and serious dude, get their asses to another level and do better in the next tournament they are in.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44282 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-06 03:30:53
September 06 2015 03:16 GMT
#2663
SADBOYS won ESP Shock Therapy tournament on their debut games against speedgaming(c9), old liquid and empire and afterwards went that that massive winstreak against NA teams so idk.

could be wrong and they may have played games earlier than that
this is a quote
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
September 06 2015 03:46 GMT
#2664
sadboys lost their very first series(to TL, funnily enough), and then won like 30 series in a row
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the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
September 06 2015 04:05 GMT
#2665
So there is the one loss, now for practice and massive win streak incoming.

Well I doubt massive win streak, wouldn't mind seeing it. But hopefully better results come. Plenty of time plus a whole new patch to keep things moving upwards.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
September 06 2015 04:30 GMT
#2666
On September 06 2015 07:19 Faruko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2015 03:00 DucK- wrote:
I'm pretty sure navi has zero idea how to beat PL.

I dont think the line up was that bad, they had a lot of things to kill pl and storm.

But you cant pick enigma and not have a single decent black hole the entire game, that was the problem, if funn1k had a decent game that was a 100% win for navi (and xboct not going full 4 in that midlane dead lmao)


I was mainly referring to game 2. Game 3 draft is ok, but they missed their window or screwed up when they had the opportunity. It shows how punishing it is to opt for this approach, as there's a lot of pressure on hitting the window without bad trades, as well as on supports to be farmed with crest glimmer and stuff. Otherwise eventually you will get overwhelmed.
BillGates
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
471 Posts
September 06 2015 05:49 GMT
#2667
Game 3 they just threw. Xboct just farming alone mid, getting picked off and then for some reason his whole team decided to fight 4vs5, to maker matter worse Funnik misses a 3 man black hole and captured no one and it was pretty much over right then!

You can't commit so much fail and win. They could have easily won, but Xboc being trash, his whole team engaging AFTER he died, its just a recipe for disaster!
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
September 06 2015 19:41 GMT
#2668
On August 30 2015 13:59 caiovigg wrote:
Navi is so bad and still the tournament organizers make everything they can to help them:

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/ESL_One/New_York/2015/Qualifiers/Europe

their bracket is WAAAAAAAAAAAY easier than empire's

Im waiting for your explanation of why Vega won the qualifiers

I have time dont worry
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-11 18:31:36
September 11 2015 18:30 GMT
#2669
On September 07 2015 04:41 Faruko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2015 13:59 caiovigg wrote:
Navi is so bad and still the tournament organizers make everything they can to help them:

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/ESL_One/New_York/2015/Qualifiers/Europe

their bracket is WAAAAAAAAAAAY easier than empire's

Im waiting for your explanation of why Vega won the qualifiers

I have time dont worry


because vega played better? who could have known that vega was that good? still the navi side of the bracket was much easier. no alliance, empire, nip etc
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-12 00:32:24
September 12 2015 00:28 GMT
#2670
On September 12 2015 03:30 hunter_x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2015 04:41 Faruko wrote:
On August 30 2015 13:59 caiovigg wrote:
Navi is so bad and still the tournament organizers make everything they can to help them:

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/ESL_One/New_York/2015/Qualifiers/Europe

their bracket is WAAAAAAAAAAAY easier than empire's

Im waiting for your explanation of why Vega won the qualifiers

I have time dont worry


because vega played better? who could have known that vega was that good? still the navi side of the bracket was much easier. no alliance, empire, nip etc

"Who could have know"

Someone that watches dota

Vega has been a legit team for a long time (easily best tier2 team in EU/CIS), alliance got last in their group in TI qualifiers (lol at "no alliance"), and they beat NIP 2-1 there also.

This was all around between Empire/Navi not Vega, saying that navi had it easier was wrong.

In fact, Vega was favoured to win the TI qualifiers but Navi upset them
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
September 18 2015 19:58 GMT
#2671
I can't take vacations, look at this thread!

Let's go NaVi, wanting to see some of your games.
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
September 18 2015 20:56 GMT
#2672
I feel like Navi is just chilling and not really trying and waiting for the next patch. Like pick something other then gyrocopter for Xboct. He can play other heroes. Has Navi ever picked PL? Like Gyrocopter I think at this point has been somewhat figured. Lina aghs, winter wyvern ult, all these things can just cripple him in fights. Xboct can play other heroes, pick something other then gyrocopter.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
September 19 2015 04:32 GMT
#2673
I still prefer artstyle over psm
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3339 Posts
September 19 2015 05:28 GMT
#2674
I want puppey
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Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-22 20:09:45
September 22 2015 13:39 GMT
#2675
So.. today is the day the guys take Secret down?

Edit: No, lol. They got rekt.

Edit2: The funny thing is: No matter how bad they may do they gotta stick together for a season!
Tephus
Profile Joined May 2011
Cascadia1754 Posts
September 22 2015 21:34 GMT
#2676
That first draft + laning decison was awful... Second game started okay, but then they had no way to kill an AM, except if rubick stole an iniating spell...

PSM doesn't appear to be the saviour. Reminder that he was kicked from Kompas for Dread when HR signed them. After playing with him for months, they thought Dread would be an improvement.
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DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-23 02:28:50
September 23 2015 02:28 GMT
#2677
I too don't think PSM is the guy to make them work. His drafts and plays have been lacklucktre. Please bring back artstyle! He may feed often, but at least navi played with purpose. The current navi is totally clueless. Right now they are below alliance tier, and that's saying something.
caiovigg
Profile Joined July 2014
Brazil1802 Posts
September 23 2015 03:06 GMT
#2678
On September 23 2015 06:34 Tephus wrote:
That first draft + laning decison was awful... Second game started okay, but then they had no way to kill an AM, except if rubick stole an iniating spell...

PSM doesn't appear to be the saviour. Reminder that he was kicked from Kompas for Dread when HR signed them. After playing with him for months, they thought Dread would be an improvement.


So a 28 year old guy that have never been on any decent team is not the savior?

Shocking.
herokiller_
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
92 Posts
September 23 2015 03:31 GMT
#2679
PSM doesn't appear to be the saviour. Reminder that he was kicked from Kompas for Dread when HR signed them. After playing with him for months, they thought Dread would be an improvement.


He wasn't kicked, he left himself
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
September 23 2015 04:15 GMT
#2680
On September 23 2015 12:06 caiovigg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2015 06:34 Tephus wrote:
That first draft + laning decison was awful... Second game started okay, but then they had no way to kill an AM, except if rubick stole an iniating spell...

PSM doesn't appear to be the saviour. Reminder that he was kicked from Kompas for Dread when HR signed them. After playing with him for months, they thought Dread would be an improvement.


So a 28 year old guy that have never been on any decent team is not the savior?

Shocking.


Wow! Just realised he is quite old!
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