On September 04 2015 02:11 goody153 wrote: Why don't you watch that game (Kp vs Navi The Defense) yourself for you to see reminder that that was 2 years ago that was back when rtz is unpolished. There's also another factor you have to take note that dendi usually plays lane dominating heroes and favorable lane matchup(notably qop/sf/lesh/lina alot of times, .. he's given a looot of qop/SF) so it's given that he should do ok on lane every competent mid should do well with those heroes while rtz back on the EG days has played random shit like lycan/pa/naga/morph mid(well before all the SF/TA returned into the meta) which shouldn't do well but yet he still does well against heroes he's not supposed to do well (there was one game where rtz played puck and he smashed unfavorable matchup look it up on youtube it's also on the chad guide to midlane iirc if you are having trouble looking it up).
Idk about you but one of the obvious reasons why rtz is highly regarded by pros is that he was the one who optimized and showed really good exploiting of creep aggro, double waving and other laning tricks. Also that jungle abuse as a midlayer.
Also come on it's very very clear that rtz is better at many aspects than most core players including dendi. That includes farming + mapawareness, laning, hero pool and lategame decision making even drafting input (notably puppey special mentioning rtz for his draft input on an interview and ppd with the "produces independent thought" on his blog). He's also played on godtier teams like EG and top not godtier teams like Kaipi/Speedgaming as well as teams SHIT teams like Take Five and he's still pretty good,
The only Kaipi - NaVi game I remember is Dendi Zues vs RTZ QoP
On September 04 2015 02:11 goody153 wrote: Why don't you watch that game (Kp vs Navi The Defense) yourself for you to see reminder that that was 2 years ago that was back when rtz is unpolished. There's also another factor you have to take note that dendi usually plays lane dominating heroes and favorable lane matchup(notably qop/sf/lesh/lina alot of times, .. he's given a looot of qop/SF) so it's given that he should do ok on lane every competent mid should do well with those heroes while rtz back on the EG days has played random shit like lycan/pa/naga/morph mid(well before all the SF/TA returned into the meta) which shouldn't do well but yet he still does well against heroes he's not supposed to do well (there was one game where rtz played puck and he smashed unfavorable matchup look it up on youtube it's also on the chad guide to midlane iirc if you are having trouble looking it up).
Idk about you but one of the obvious reasons why rtz is highly regarded by pros is that he was the one who optimized and showed really good exploiting of creep aggro, double waving and other laning tricks. Also that jungle abuse as a midlayer.
Also come on it's very very clear that rtz is better at many aspects than most core players including dendi. That includes farming + mapawareness, laning, hero pool and lategame decision making even drafting input (notably puppey special mentioning rtz for his draft input on an interview and ppd with the "produces independent thought" on his blog). He's also played on godtier teams like EG and top not godtier teams like Kaipi/Speedgaming as well as teams SHIT teams like Take Five and he's still pretty good,
The only Kaipi - NaVi game I remember is Dendi Zues vs RTZ QoP
That game was pretty entertaining however zeus wasn't standard pick shit back then nobody knew how to lane against him.
The rest of the matchups they had doesn't realy look pretty for dendi alot of times .. the times dendi did well was the with there were midlane ganks , really favorable matchup and also that pudge vs sf during d2l when mason was still on eg. I know you guys like dendi that pretty stupid to discredit rtz's skill in which he is obviously really good(i don't like eg or rtz 2014 pre-ti4 but that didn't stop me from noticing he's pretty good lol) just to make dendi look good even though the gap is pretty fucking obvious at this point. Don't tell me that rtz's constant performance on both eg/secret as well as all the fucking pros who has spoken that he's at the top of position/role is wrong.
This is not 2013 anymore. Both G and resolution does better than dendi nowadays.
On September 04 2015 02:11 goody153 wrote: Why don't you watch that game (Kp vs Navi The Defense) yourself for you to see reminder that that was 2 years ago that was back when rtz is unpolished. There's also another factor you have to take note that dendi usually plays lane dominating heroes and favorable lane matchup(notably qop/sf/lesh/lina alot of times, .. he's given a looot of qop/SF) so it's given that he should do ok on lane every competent mid should do well with those heroes while rtz back on the EG days has played random shit like lycan/pa/naga/morph mid(well before all the SF/TA returned into the meta) which shouldn't do well but yet he still does well against heroes he's not supposed to do well (there was one game where rtz played puck and he smashed unfavorable matchup look it up on youtube it's also on the chad guide to midlane iirc if you are having trouble looking it up).
Idk about you but one of the obvious reasons why rtz is highly regarded by pros is that he was the one who optimized and showed really good exploiting of creep aggro, double waving and other laning tricks. Also that jungle abuse as a midlayer.
Also come on it's very very clear that rtz is better at many aspects than most core players including dendi. That includes farming + mapawareness, laning, hero pool and lategame decision making even drafting input (notably puppey special mentioning rtz for his draft input on an interview and ppd with the "produces independent thought" on his blog). He's also played on godtier teams like EG and top not godtier teams like Kaipi/Speedgaming as well as teams SHIT teams like Take Five and he's still pretty good,
The only Kaipi - NaVi game I remember is Dendi Zues vs RTZ QoP
That game was pretty entertaining however zeus wasn't standard pick shit back then nobody knew how to lane against him.
The rest of the matchups they had doesn't realy look pretty for dendi alot of times .. the times dendi did well was the with there were midlane ganks , really favorable matchup and also that pudge vs sf during d2l when mason was still on eg. I know you guys like dendi that pretty stupid to discredit rtz's skill in which he is obviously really good(i don't like eg or rtz 2014 pre-ti4 but that didn't stop me from noticing he's pretty good lol) just to make dendi look good even though the gap is pretty fucking obvious at this point. Don't tell me that rtz's constant performance on both eg/secret as well as all the fucking pros who has spoken that he's at the top of position/role is wrong.
This is not 2013 anymore. Both G and resolution does better than dendi nowadays.
On September 04 2015 02:11 goody153 wrote: Why don't you watch that game (Kp vs Navi The Defense) yourself for you to see reminder that that was 2 years ago that was back when rtz is unpolished. There's also another factor you have to take note that dendi usually plays lane dominating heroes and favorable lane matchup(notably qop/sf/lesh/lina alot of times, .. he's given a looot of qop/SF) so it's given that he should do ok on lane every competent mid should do well with those heroes while rtz back on the EG days has played random shit like lycan/pa/naga/morph mid(well before all the SF/TA returned into the meta) which shouldn't do well but yet he still does well against heroes he's not supposed to do well (there was one game where rtz played puck and he smashed unfavorable matchup look it up on youtube it's also on the chad guide to midlane iirc if you are having trouble looking it up).
Idk about you but one of the obvious reasons why rtz is highly regarded by pros is that he was the one who optimized and showed really good exploiting of creep aggro, double waving and other laning tricks. Also that jungle abuse as a midlayer.
Also come on it's very very clear that rtz is better at many aspects than most core players including dendi. That includes farming + mapawareness, laning, hero pool and lategame decision making even drafting input (notably puppey special mentioning rtz for his draft input on an interview and ppd with the "produces independent thought" on his blog). He's also played on godtier teams like EG and top not godtier teams like Kaipi/Speedgaming as well as teams SHIT teams like Take Five and he's still pretty good,
The only Kaipi - NaVi game I remember is Dendi Zues vs RTZ QoP
That game was pretty entertaining however zeus wasn't standard pick shit back then nobody knew how to lane against him.
The rest of the matchups they had doesn't realy look pretty for dendi alot of times .. the times dendi did well was the with there were midlane ganks , really favorable matchup and also that pudge vs sf during d2l when mason was still on eg. I know you guys like dendi that pretty stupid to discredit rtz's skill in which he is obviously really good(i don't like eg or rtz 2014 pre-ti4 but that didn't stop me from noticing he's pretty good lol) just to make dendi look good even though the gap is pretty fucking obvious at this point. Don't tell me that rtz's constant performance on both eg/secret as well as all the fucking pros who has spoken that he's at the top of position/role is wrong.
This is not 2013 anymore. Both G and resolution does better than dendi nowadays.
You just wanna make us sad. Long live the DONDO!
i got wayy too serious ( i got baited ) alright if it helps the dendi is the reason why i got hooked up with doto 2 proscene (the pudge-chen game against tongfu TI3 made me into an avid doto 2 fan from a casual)
My saddest aspect of artstyle leaving is that I no longer can see super aggressive early game Chen plays from him. It was a beauty. Way more enjoyable than aui's greedy-super-efficient-farming Chen.
On September 04 2015 02:11 goody153 wrote: Why don't you watch that game (Kp vs Navi The Defense) yourself for you to see reminder that that was 2 years ago that was back when rtz is unpolished. There's also another factor you have to take note that dendi usually plays lane dominating heroes and favorable lane matchup(notably qop/sf/lesh/lina alot of times, .. he's given a looot of qop/SF) so it's given that he should do ok on lane every competent mid should do well with those heroes while rtz back on the EG days has played random shit like lycan/pa/naga/morph mid(well before all the SF/TA returned into the meta) which shouldn't do well but yet he still does well against heroes he's not supposed to do well (there was one game where rtz played puck and he smashed unfavorable matchup look it up on youtube it's also on the chad guide to midlane iirc if you are having trouble looking it up).
Idk about you but one of the obvious reasons why rtz is highly regarded by pros is that he was the one who optimized and showed really good exploiting of creep aggro, double waving and other laning tricks. Also that jungle abuse as a midlayer.
Also come on it's very very clear that rtz is better at many aspects than most core players including dendi. That includes farming + mapawareness, laning, hero pool and lategame decision making even drafting input (notably puppey special mentioning rtz for his draft input on an interview and ppd with the "produces independent thought" on his blog). He's also played on godtier teams like EG and top not godtier teams like Kaipi/Speedgaming as well as teams SHIT teams like Take Five and he's still pretty good,
The only Kaipi - NaVi game I remember is Dendi Zues vs RTZ QoP
That game was pretty entertaining however zeus wasn't standard pick shit back then nobody knew how to lane against him.
The rest of the matchups they had doesn't realy look pretty for dendi alot of times .. the times dendi did well was the with there were midlane ganks , really favorable matchup and also that pudge vs sf during d2l when mason was still on eg. I know you guys like dendi that pretty stupid to discredit rtz's skill in which he is obviously really good(i don't like eg or rtz 2014 pre-ti4 but that didn't stop me from noticing he's pretty good lol) just to make dendi look good even though the gap is pretty fucking obvious at this point. Don't tell me that rtz's constant performance on both eg/secret as well as all the fucking pros who has spoken that he's at the top of position/role is wrong.
This is not 2013 anymore. Both G and resolution does better than dendi nowadays.
You just wanna make us sad. Long live the DONDO!
i got wayy too serious ( i got baited ) alright if it helps the dendi is the reason why i got hooked up with doto 2 proscene (the pudge-chen game against tongfu TI3 made me into an avid doto 2 fan from a casual)
On September 04 2015 02:11 goody153 wrote: Why don't you watch that game (Kp vs Navi The Defense) yourself for you to see reminder that that was 2 years ago that was back when rtz is unpolished. There's also another factor you have to take note that dendi usually plays lane dominating heroes and favorable lane matchup(notably qop/sf/lesh/lina alot of times, .. he's given a looot of qop/SF) so it's given that he should do ok on lane every competent mid should do well with those heroes while rtz back on the EG days has played random shit like lycan/pa/naga/morph mid(well before all the SF/TA returned into the meta) which shouldn't do well but yet he still does well against heroes he's not supposed to do well (there was one game where rtz played puck and he smashed unfavorable matchup look it up on youtube it's also on the chad guide to midlane iirc if you are having trouble looking it up).
Idk about you but one of the obvious reasons why rtz is highly regarded by pros is that he was the one who optimized and showed really good exploiting of creep aggro, double waving and other laning tricks. Also that jungle abuse as a midlayer.
Also come on it's very very clear that rtz is better at many aspects than most core players including dendi. That includes farming + mapawareness, laning, hero pool and lategame decision making even drafting input (notably puppey special mentioning rtz for his draft input on an interview and ppd with the "produces independent thought" on his blog). He's also played on godtier teams like EG and top not godtier teams like Kaipi/Speedgaming as well as teams SHIT teams like Take Five and he's still pretty good,
The only Kaipi - NaVi game I remember is Dendi Zues vs RTZ QoP
That game was pretty entertaining however zeus wasn't standard pick shit back then nobody knew how to lane against him.
The rest of the matchups they had doesn't realy look pretty for dendi alot of times .. the times dendi did well was the with there were midlane ganks , really favorable matchup and also that pudge vs sf during d2l when mason was still on eg. I know you guys like dendi that pretty stupid to discredit rtz's skill in which he is obviously really good(i don't like eg or rtz 2014 pre-ti4 but that didn't stop me from noticing he's pretty good lol) just to make dendi look good even though the gap is pretty fucking obvious at this point. Don't tell me that rtz's constant performance on both eg/secret as well as all the fucking pros who has spoken that he's at the top of position/role is wrong.
This is not 2013 anymore. Both G and resolution does better than dendi nowadays.
You just wanna make us sad. Long live the DONDO!
i got wayy too serious ( i got baited ) alright if it helps the dendi is the reason why i got hooked up with doto 2 proscene (the pudge-chen game against tongfu TI3 made me into an avid doto 2 fan from a casual)
Those were good times.
Man you had to be in Benaroya for that.
There was this group of dudes at the back near the Entrance who kept going "Tongfu Tongfu Tongfu" (prouncing it tung-fu) like they were about to jizz everytime they got a battle. I think it was a Tongfu hype crew with uniforms and shit)
And they got totally creamed on by the whole Hall when the pudge hookes started happening.
PSM: I went to military service, after that started working and didn't play video games much. I worked for some time and than decided I didn't want to work but instead to play games. I like that mentality!
PSM: I went to military service, after that started working and didn't play video games much. I worked for some time and than decided I didn't want to work but instead to play games. I like that mentality!
That's basically my mentality except I'm still working cause I still aint good enough.
PSM: I went to military service, after that started working and didn't play video games much. I worked for some time and than decided I didn't want to work but instead to play games. I like that mentality!
That's basically my mentality except I'm still working cause I still aint good enough.
On September 05 2015 04:46 Faruko wrote: not the best showing but ill take it
especially considering PSM just got here like less than a week ago and they had to use the standin on the second game.
Taking into account they only play together for one day, more likely two, I think it is quite commendable.
They won, that is the most important part. Now onto play Vega Squadron. Let's go NAVI!
Also, for game 2, I was at work so wasn't watching super closely. I thought the standin kudes played fine. Was more on the draft that they got far behind due to goblak's team super aggression and the draft wasn't able to come back from that deficit.
EPT
You just wanna make us sad. Long live the DONDO!
