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wxyLkz
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MyrMindservant
695 Posts
On August 27 2015 16:16 wxyLkz wrote: artstyle leaving when they won TI1 artstyle leaving when they lost TI5 seriously whats his problem? Leaving the team after TI1 was definitely a mistake, it pretty much destroyed his career at that point. But this time is different. I'm pretty sure that he got kicked, or "asked to leave". Na'Vi have changed 4 captains during last 13 month, 3 of which were kicked. I was willing to support this team continuously during those 13 month despite their poor performance because I believe that real fan should remain loyal in both good and especially bat times (I really dislike bandwagon fans). But these forced reshuffles after every significant failure are too much even for me. Kicking players even though it is clear that the team still had a lot of potential and could improve if they stuck together and worked on their issues is not something I want to support. | ||
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wxyLkz
210 Posts
they were stable the 3 TI Grand Finals so stability is also a factor being successful | ||
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caiovigg
Brazil1802 Posts
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/ESL_One/New_York/2015/Qualifiers/Europe their bracket is WAAAAAAAAAAAY easier than empire's | ||
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Salazarz
Korea (South)2591 Posts
On August 30 2015 13:59 caiovigg wrote: Navi is so bad and still the tournament organizers make everything they can to help them: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/ESL_One/New_York/2015/Qualifiers/Europe their bracket is WAAAAAAAAAAAY easier than empire's Secret is so bad and still the tournament organizers give them a free invite. Hey, two can play that way! | ||
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Angeloidus
Russian Federation251 Posts
On August 28 2015 17:14 wxyLkz wrote: if they look back and check their successful times they were stable the 3 TI Grand Finals so stability is also a factor being successful The same can be said about success being a factor in the stability. | ||
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Faruko
Chile34173 Posts
On August 30 2015 13:59 caiovigg wrote: Navi is so bad and still the tournament organizers make everything they can to help them: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/ESL_One/New_York/2015/Qualifiers/Europe their bracket is WAAAAAAAAAAAY easier than empire's Yeah too easy its not like Navi is the only one that has to play against a TI5 team Instead Empire has to play agaisnt the might of the last team of group A of TI5 qualifiers and the super strong NiP who lost 2-1 against Vega and got kick out the the first round. Stop embarrasing yourself, please not anymore, 1-7 was more than enough. | ||
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Racket
3023 Posts
On August 30 2015 20:38 Faruko wrote: Yeah too easy its not like Navi is the only one that has to play against a TI5 team Instead Empire has to play agaisnt the might of the last team of group A of TI5 qualifiers and the super strong NiP who lost 2-1 against Vega and got kick out the the first round. Stop embarrasing yourself, please not anymore, 1-7 was more than enough. Oh yea, right there baby. | ||
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wxyLkz
210 Posts
On August 30 2015 19:10 Angeloidus wrote: The same can be said about success being a factor in the stability. True That | ||
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Racket
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goody153
44282 Posts
On September 03 2015 01:47 Racket wrote: Welp... This really killed my expectations... when they said big change i thought dendi and xboct was splitting up | ||
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Coolsnow7
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Racket
3023 Posts
On September 03 2015 02:02 goody153 wrote: when they said big change i thought dendi and xboct was splitting up I expected at least 2, hopefully 3 ppl being changed. Of course we have no idea how this can end up, but I really think ZG has some screws loose. On September 03 2015 02:11 Coolsnow7 wrote: I just don't see this making a difference. How can they look at their performance in TI and say "yeah it's all on Artstyle and his mode of leadership"? So small-minded, and worse, same small-mindedness that we've seen from them for the past year. The navi site (russian version) states that ArtStyle and Kudos are subs for the team, maybe they will be all contributing in some way. | ||
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goody153
44282 Posts
Players are prolly dissatisfied with Artstyle ? | ||
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Angeloidus
Russian Federation251 Posts
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goody153
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Angeloidus
Russian Federation251 Posts
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goody153
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Coolsnow7
46 Posts
On September 03 2015 02:58 Angeloidus wrote: Did you even watch this new Dendi interview? He said that he was against kicking ArtStyle, he thought him to be sufficient and that he improved over the period of 3 month and wanted to keep playing with him. He also said people, analysts and commentators don't understand much about what's been happening and that particularly in the last game ArtStyle did all he could to help the team (on the hero he played). Furthermore, ArtStyle was used to playing another position on tanking, pushing or ganking-roaming heroes, contrary to being support in most games of the TI. What new interview? And honestly that just makes it worse. | ||
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Racket
3023 Posts
On September 03 2015 02:27 goody153 wrote: I don't believe ZG makes the decision who joins the team. Just like every other dota team managers/org owners don't make the decision it's the players of the team. Players are prolly dissatisfied with Artstyle ? I dont mean to say ZG takes the decisions, I just think, whether he takes them or let someone else takes them, something is not working since at least a year ago. One way or the other, there is something that must be done, either he stepping up or down, but that is only my opinion. On September 03 2015 03:25 Coolsnow7 wrote: What new interview? And honestly that just makes it worse. The one that took place today at 17 CEST or something like that. Edit: Either way, there are three majors before TI and the team seems to be composed of seven people so, lets give it a try, there is nothing else to do by our side other that cheer for them and hope. | ||
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