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Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
May 19 2016 05:43 GMT
#1861
On May 19 2016 14:30 bluzi wrote:
I think we will see more Tinker from EG and less DK in the future , they never liked to play the all in push strats , they will try and find a defensive counter to this Meta and not try to play this kind of Meta , lets see if they can find it , so far Liquid showed its damn hard to stop when played correctly.

what eg had the most all in push strats in the world and that was their go to style. 1 pos jakiro, 1 pos lina, even 1 pos visage lol.
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
May 19 2016 06:42 GMT
#1862
On May 19 2016 14:43 Kabras wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2016 14:30 bluzi wrote:
I think we will see more Tinker from EG and less DK in the future , they never liked to play the all in push strats , they will try and find a defensive counter to this Meta and not try to play this kind of Meta , lets see if they can find it , so far Liquid showed its damn hard to stop when played correctly.

what eg had the most all in push strats in the world and that was their go to style. 1 pos jakiro, 1 pos lina, even 1 pos visage lol.

Aside from pocket strats, they only had like 3 months where they were pure push-strat (post TI4 and pre-6.82).

Their go to style and preference has always 4 player greed and 1 poor ppd.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
shouldbeworking
Profile Joined October 2014
946 Posts
May 20 2016 12:22 GMT
#1863
Now that Zai is done with school you think EG will make any changes? Something crazy like PPD to coach. Or is poor Aui getting the boot again.
wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
May 20 2016 13:47 GMT
#1864
The roster is locked until after TI. They can't make any chances before that, unless they want to play the open qualifiers of course
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-20 13:51:29
May 20 2016 13:50 GMT
#1865


I see he is, i can't see anything happening now but you never know in Dota! Sit and wait is all i am going to do.
On May 20 2016 22:47 wims80 wrote:
The roster is locked until after TI. They can't make any chances before that, unless they want to play the open qualifiers of course

Zai is listed as a sub, EG have a 6 man roster. If they play with Zai they are still fine.
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Gaial
Profile Joined May 2014
United States313 Posts
May 20 2016 14:13 GMT
#1866
Zai as a 1

??
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
May 20 2016 14:35 GMT
#1867
Zai said in the interview posted a dozen or so pages back that he is interesting playing all positions except mid as he sees that as boring. Said he most wanted to try position 5 though.
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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14827 Posts
May 20 2016 16:01 GMT
#1868
i don't think its likely Zai jumps into the squad but fuck i've been wrong before
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 20 2016 21:00 GMT
#1869
Player skill isn't really their issue. They just not clean enough in their execution yet. That's something that just is going to take some time. ppd would also, if he was public about it, admit that they just weren't in sync with what people were trying to do at Epicenter. Complexity also probably turned in the best series I've seen from them, yet, so that didn't help matters. (Though I highly doubt EG was beating Newbee, unless they got caught looking past Complexity.)

Zai should, hopefully, be used as a Coach/Analyst for EG, as everyone at the top is starting to accept its necessary.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 21 2016 06:03 GMT
#1870
Went back to watch most of the series with complexity. I'm actually less concerned about EG going into Manila than I was before. Swindlezz's draft in Game 1 was really solid and EG had a chance, but it was a lot harder to pull off than complexity's.

I also think EG just wasn't quite as prepared for BM to come online that early. That was much of the mistake, if there was any. Any other offlaner and I think their early game goes a lot better.

Game 2 is simply EG got Alch'd. As we saw in the Finals, Alchemist requires the draft be built to stop him or you have the hard-counter. (Which, given where Swindlezz picked it [2nd phase, last pick], it was a well-planned cheese.)

The series against TL was really the only series that went supremely bad, but Kuro's AA was 10/10/40 over 2 games. AA is just a hard counter to much of EG's play style that day. And, as we saw in the Finals, it's also much of a counter to a lot of good teams.
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
May 24 2016 06:24 GMT
#1871
EG.Zai
Dream is dead
Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
May 24 2016 07:46 GMT
#1872
On May 24 2016 15:24 Racket wrote:
EG.Zai
Dream is dead

I wanted zai
I dont know how, I just wanted him on EG!
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
May 24 2016 07:59 GMT
#1873
He will be @ EG after TI6 probably , they won't risk the invite i feel unless things go really really wrong.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
May 24 2016 08:38 GMT
#1874
There is no risk of the invite, he is a substitute, he will go as an official standin if they wanted him too. Looks like PPD keeping this squad until after TI6 which is fair enough.

After TI6 post shuffle, i see Zai joining a bigger team unless Kaipii randomly gets to TI which i highly doubt as the EU qualifier will be huge. Bone7 is still carry on that team who makes many mistakes, and sexybamboe is also interesting with his plays at least. Zai can't contribute as much to the team as a 4/5 as much as would be required i feel.
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wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-24 09:51:45
May 24 2016 09:49 GMT
#1875
Can teams really swap players around like that? I thought substitute players are only allowed to step in when there's some sort of injury / illness or if for some other reason an official player can't attend an event.

EDIT: Apparently teams can swap substitutes with players if both the players agree to the change
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
May 24 2016 10:29 GMT
#1876
Yeah that was the rule from Valve for substitutes. Which is what it should be or the sub rule is just dumb as why would anyone want to be a sub if they cant play xd

But doesn't matter now, he is going to try and regain some form and showcase his skills for Kaipi and try and get himself into a bigger team after ti6. Unless of course Kaipi randomly go super sayian and find themselves in TI6 and doing well
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Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 24 2016 11:13 GMT
#1877
Zai will be at TI6 with EG, which ppd actually responded to him about when tickets went out. (Via twitter)

I imagine they'll use him as a coach for the event, and Zai will be on a strong team for next year. Universe to get the boot for Zai. Calling it now.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
May 24 2016 12:00 GMT
#1878
I see Secret full resetting after TI6 again and Zai to EG unless we win TI6 in which case there will be 0 changes.

I can see the Rtz stack with cr1t being announced after ti6, it was rumored it was going to be locked in before the last lock, but rtz choose to go with Secret instead.
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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14827 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-24 12:29:30
May 24 2016 12:29 GMT
#1879
if Zai goes back to EG it'll probably be as support though

I think Fear is gonna retire this time.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
May 24 2016 18:23 GMT
#1880
On May 24 2016 21:00 Pandemona wrote:
I see Secret full resetting after TI6 again and Zai to EG unless we win TI6 in which case there will be 0 changes.

I can see the Rtz stack with cr1t being announced after ti6, it was rumored it was going to be locked in before the last lock, but rtz choose to go with Secret instead.

You mean to say RTZ goes to OG to replace n0tail and turn another team into trash just to keep building up his fame?
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