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ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
May 11 2016 19:40 GMT
#1821
On May 11 2016 00:52 theqat wrote:
looks like PPD has food poisoning



take my energy

isn't it a meme though

I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 11 2016 19:40 GMT
#1822
On May 12 2016 04:40 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2016 00:52 theqat wrote:
looks like PPD has food poisoning

https://twitter.com/Peterpandam/status/730060597644173313

take my energy

isn't it a meme though

no it was real yesterday afaik
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-12 19:57:16
May 12 2016 19:55 GMT
#1823
Food poisoning indeed. I have better drafts in my ranked pubs than what ppd decided to show to us today. WHHHHHRRYYYY
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
May 12 2016 22:27 GMT
#1824
As an EG fan it's starting to get stressful. Now I'm starting to feel what C9 fans had always felt. I can't tell if this new EG is going break out or they're just going to crumble. That game 2 really did suck. EG was on it's way to taking over the game. Everyone was so farmed, Sumail getting bloodstone charges. Then boom, one fuck up dripping down to a loss. This sucks!
Getting too old for this..
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 13 2016 11:32 GMT
#1825
On May 13 2016 07:27 Danzo wrote:
As an EG fan it's starting to get stressful. Now I'm starting to feel what C9 fans had always felt. I can't tell if this new EG is going break out or they're just going to crumble. That game 2 really did suck. EG was on it's way to taking over the game. Everyone was so farmed, Sumail getting bloodstone charges. Then boom, one fuck up dripping down to a loss. This sucks!


At Shanghai, Secret came with a very specific strategy to deal with EG. I call it the "Global Presence" draft and every Tier 1 team has their own version of it. Because "standard" EG is a Dual-core line up that's simply going to out farm & out scale you with decent laning. By being able to show up 3-4 heroes to a fight in 5s or less, you can gank any of the EG cores. (Nature's Prophet + Lion was the core to both Secret's & Liquid's approach at Shanghai. MVP & Newbee use their Wisp-based version.)

Against Team Liquid at Epicenter, the AA was just the most brilliant counter pick. Kuroky went 10/10/40 on the hero over 2 games. Let TL get kills on Aui & Sumail they'd normally not get. Especially in game 2 where EG had a bunch of Melee (or close-range) cores. It's not like they got brutally outplayed (except for Game 1 against Newbee), it was really good preparation by Kuroky or something missed by ppd. But TL hadn't drafted AA in 5 months.

Sometimes, you just get Drow Rangered. Sometimes, you get Broodmothered. Against TL, they got AA'd.
Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
May 13 2016 12:52 GMT
#1826
On May 13 2016 07:27 Danzo wrote:
As an EG fan it's starting to get stressful. Now I'm starting to feel what C9 fans had always felt. I can't tell if this new EG is going break out or they're just going to crumble. That game 2 really did suck. EG was on it's way to taking over the game. Everyone was so farmed, Sumail getting bloodstone charges. Then boom, one fuck up dripping down to a loss. This sucks!

I didnt get to watch all theier games 100%, but I from what I saw, the drafts were not the best... And especially against Liquid, you could see how well Liquid meshed together, and always knew what to do in certain situations... It comes with playing together for a while. They always had a plan.
I didnt really see that in EG's play.
But were not out yet, I think we are going to beat the winenr of Col and VP, and even secure a top3 after that!
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
Lafril
Profile Joined May 2016
Belgium9 Posts
May 13 2016 13:33 GMT
#1827
It was quite painful to watch the match against Team Liquid. They are missing their cool to make good counteracts, which was their trademark in the last years. They are not coming back anymore when they are behind.

As I see that sometimes Aui_2000 is so hard trying that it is not taking a good step back saying that "Ok, this fight lost, let's not further engage..." and then he dies with the rest of the team.

PPD was also loosing some of his confidence in my eyes, probably this is the reason why his activity on youtube/twitter is taking a step back. He needs to get a good idea about his teammates (state of mind, skills, mechanism) and start making clear strategy and possible ways to adjust things when it is getting out of hand. Somehow the cold-minded analytic view should became superior and replace the emotional component, which is currently working against their favor.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
May 14 2016 10:03 GMT
#1828
PPD seems not to understand this patch.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
May 14 2016 10:10 GMT
#1829
he didn't find the answer to the 5man strenght based core lineups yet, give him time
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 14 2016 11:13 GMT
#1830
Manila is the true test for us now, they will have had long enough by then and seen alot of games. We need a good showing there or it might fall apart!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
May 14 2016 13:13 GMT
#1831
Some dark times. Disappointing at Epiccenter. There's probably nothing worse than dropping to Complexity.
Getting too old for this..
Gaial
Profile Joined May 2014
United States313 Posts
May 14 2016 13:34 GMT
#1832
Complexity is a decent team, and one that has stuck around for awhile, like Liquid and OG. No shame in losing to them.

My biggest fear with EG is, I don't see how any amount of bootcamping is going to bring them back to top 3's. The next major is only 3 weeks away. They looked severely outclassed against several teams.

Too bad they can't be in DL because they desperately need the games.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
May 14 2016 13:48 GMT
#1833
There's so much HoNstory between ppd and swindle that I can't help but think this is their most impactful loss yet, even if CoL is far from the worst team out there. They can probably bounce back if they actually play series though.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17654 Posts
May 14 2016 19:04 GMT
#1834
On May 14 2016 22:48 TheTenthDoc wrote:
There's so much HoNstory between ppd and swindle that I can't help but think this is their most impactful loss yet, even if CoL is far from the worst team out there. They can probably bounce back if they actually play series though.


Why not experiment and put Fear in a carry role and Aui on support where he belongs? Aui carry is not impressive, Fear carry might not be the best but at least it's really stable (I guess Fear's performance is stable regardless of role or hero he's playing).
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
May 14 2016 19:13 GMT
#1835
On May 15 2016 04:04 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2016 22:48 TheTenthDoc wrote:
There's so much HoNstory between ppd and swindle that I can't help but think this is their most impactful loss yet, even if CoL is far from the worst team out there. They can probably bounce back if they actually play series though.


Why not experiment and put Fear in a carry role and Aui on support where he belongs? Aui carry is not impressive, Fear carry might not be the best but at least it's really stable (I guess Fear's performance is stable regardless of role or hero he's playing).

well at least last time fear played carry it was much better than what aui's showing
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
1godless
Profile Joined August 2011
United States247 Posts
May 14 2016 19:20 GMT
#1836
Hasn't Fear come out and said that he can't/doesn't want to carry again? I think he plays fine on support and I have faith in Aui jelling eventually.
The enemy's throne is down
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
May 14 2016 19:26 GMT
#1837
Obviously things aren't the best at the moment, but I think that aui on carry makes the most sense. There is quite a bit of time between now and TI for things to change a lot. I imagine that given the NA region their TI invite is still quite secure so I don't think that they need to start winning until then (obviously it would help ). I'm not sure if now is the time to start switching things up, since aui has not looked that bad, and there have been a lot of other questionable aspects of their game otherwise. I mean, at the end of the day you still have 4 TI winners + TI winning coach.

EG Hwaiting!
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
May 14 2016 20:57 GMT
#1838
how does it feel to be in the dumpster? you did not have this for a very long time;)

User was temp banned for this post.
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
May 14 2016 21:39 GMT
#1839
On May 15 2016 04:20 1godless wrote:
Hasn't Fear come out and said that he can't/doesn't want to carry again? I think he plays fine on support and I have faith in Aui jelling eventually.


There's quite a few people on this forum who say that Fear wants to play support due to his arm, but I've never seen him say that. Not really sure where that got started. But Aui did say in a recent interview that he specifically wanted to play carry after playing the role for DC towards the end and probably wouldn't even have joined as a support.
Kasto
Profile Joined May 2010
473 Posts
May 14 2016 21:43 GMT
#1840
Don't think the problem is Aui/Fear position, just need to keep playing and try to figure the patch out as a group. Wonky drafts lead to wonky plays.
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