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TanGeng
Sanya12364 Posts
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Gaial
United States313 Posts
On May 01 2016 22:13 hunter_x wrote: right back at your team. just because they have an all star team, doesnt mean they will do well in the future;) This is an EG thread, nothing to do with Secret. I like them more than EG because Puppey, Fear, and Universe are my top 3 favorite players. On May 01 2016 22:17 Pandemona wrote: Secret, lost 4 and 1 to Empire who EG beat 2-1? Empire got made to look awful when they lost vs Elite Wolves too. So that doesn't say much about how Secret lost to them does it. EG did very well in there first lan when u compare it to Secret who pretty much had same sorta lan quality in Manila. Two good teams and tier 2 teams. EG back to training now work on some more carry roles for Aui and back to it. Bulba Broo and DS have to be respected. ... Also those two teams have not changed rosters recently or as drastically. fn came in for Vega but that was in March and has had along time to settle and it one position vs two I'd argue that Secret was up against a much, much stronger field. I don't see that Bulba's Brood needs to be respected, I was very unimpressed with his Brood for half the time in Game 3 vs Vega. Yes, the Doom and Disruptor made many rotations, but he missed a lot of cs. He continually fed spiders to a hellbear doom. Also, leading up to the Shanghai major, EG was like 7-1 vs Vega if you include the Captain's Draft tournament. Edit: My point being, this is why DC didn't get results. Aui and Bulba are skilled, but they are not the world's best players, and now EG picked them up. I don't see them as the clear NA favorite over coL anymore until they play head to head. | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11446 Posts
On May 01 2016 22:29 TanGeng wrote: I still feel like fear carry would be best for EG. The carry quality in NA dota is just a big step down. But that would mean aui #4 which is not good. Aui is the weakest link atm. | ||
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Shaella
United States14827 Posts
not good please stop | ||
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wims80
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On May 01 2016 22:55 DucK- wrote: But that would mean aui #4 which is not good. Aui is the weakest link atm. WTF are you talking about, Aui's #4 was a key component to EG winning TI5. The opposing teams literally had to ban out his heroes in the first phase or else they'd lose | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11446 Posts
On May 01 2016 23:17 wims80 wrote: WTF are you talking about, Aui's #4 was a key component to EG winning TI5. The opposing teams literally had to ban out his heroes in the first phase or else they'd lose Not good in a sense that it is very farm dependent and reliant on his team to make the space. That's the issue PPD had with aui #4. Fear's #4 at least can do shit if necessary, but aui can't. | ||
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TanGeng
Sanya12364 Posts
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wooozy
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Dysisa
Sweden2376 Posts
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Danzo
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Goolpsy
Denmark301 Posts
Since Arteezy joined, and even now; there seems to be little focus on actually winning lanes. In most of the games I have seen of them they have been behind all game and then turned it around with superior teamfighting lategame. I wish they would buy Sumail more space earlygame so he can take over the midgame. | ||
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yotsuna
Hong Kong186 Posts
On May 02 2016 04:21 Goolpsy wrote: I am very impressed with how many heroes Fear plays extraordinarily well. I does seem though, since he changed to 4th positition, that they draft a greeder 4th; and usually not one that can help them win lanes. Since Arteezy joined, and even now; there seems to be little focus on actually winning lanes. In most of the games I have seen of them they have been behind all game and then turned it around with superior teamfighting lategame. I wish they would buy Sumail more space earlygame so he can take over the midgame. i agree, they seem to have alot more success when they give fear heroes such as bounty, mirana and earth spirit. | ||
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wims80
1892 Posts
On May 02 2016 04:21 Goolpsy wrote: I am very impressed with how many heroes Fear plays extraordinarily well. I does seem though, since he changed to 4th positition, that they draft a greeder 4th; and usually not one that can help them win lanes. Since Arteezy joined, and even now; there seems to be little focus on actually winning lanes. In most of the games I have seen of them they have been behind all game and then turned it around with superior teamfighting lategame. I wish they would buy Sumail more space earlygame so he can take over the midgame. They have always been getting greedy position 4s tho. Aui always played super greedy semi supports, Zai did as well a lot of the time | ||
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Shaella
United States14827 Posts
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
ppd is very Bill Belichik-like: he wants to remove what you do best and pick you apart with how EG play the field, as it's given to them. It's why "standard" EG rolls over the lower tier teams but can have problems in game 1 with any Tier 1 team. (Or a team playing like Tier 1 that weekend.) It makes them amazingly consistent, but they're going to rarely be truly dominant until late into a long tournament. Still, it was a solid showing. They won some money, learned some things and put on some good Dota. ppd & fear teams continue their ridiculous record in Elimination Matches. Though I'd have liked to see them play MVP again, minus the fact I figure they were going to lose to MVP, as MVP was firing on all cylinders and EG is still learning how they want to play this roster. Though the Ember + Lifestealer combo was damn fun, it has to be said. | ||
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razor10854
Indonesia8 Posts
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TanGeng
Sanya12364 Posts
On May 02 2016 03:22 Dysisa wrote: Well, so much for that role swap discussion https://twitter.com/FearDotA/status/726835891235336193 No matter what Fear says, I'm still a huge fan of Fear carry. :D | ||
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
Which brings up an interesting and highly relevant question: if you could clone people, would what the scariest one-man team be? | ||
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Achaian
United States3369 Posts
On May 05 2016 10:00 Orome wrote: Yeah i mean it's really nice that Fear has his teammate's back, but if they could I'd imagine EG would prefer Fear over Aui in both positions. Which brings up an interesting and highly relevant question: if you could clone people, would what the scariest one-man team be? Fear, FY, Universe, N0tail, maybe even Kuroky. With how long most of these players have been around, there's a decent pool of high level role swappers | ||
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wims80
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