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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
May 01 2016 13:29 GMT
#1781
I still feel like fear carry would be best for EG. The carry quality in NA dota is just a big step down.
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Gaial
Profile Joined May 2014
United States313 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-01 13:48:46
May 01 2016 13:46 GMT
#1782
On May 01 2016 22:13 hunter_x wrote:
right back at your team. just because they have an all star team, doesnt mean they will do well in the future;)


This is an EG thread, nothing to do with Secret. I like them more than EG because Puppey, Fear, and Universe are my top 3 favorite players.

On May 01 2016 22:17 Pandemona wrote:
Secret, lost 4 and 1 to Empire who EG beat 2-1? Empire got made to look awful when they lost vs Elite Wolves too. So that doesn't say much about how Secret lost to them does it. EG did very well in there first lan when u compare it to Secret who pretty much had same sorta lan quality in Manila. Two good teams and tier 2 teams.

EG back to training now work on some more carry roles for Aui and back to it. Bulba Broo and DS have to be respected.

...

Also those two teams have not changed rosters recently or as drastically. fn came in for Vega but that was in March and has had along time to settle and it one position vs two


I'd argue that Secret was up against a much, much stronger field.

I don't see that Bulba's Brood needs to be respected, I was very unimpressed with his Brood for half the time in Game 3 vs Vega. Yes, the Doom and Disruptor made many rotations, but he missed a lot of cs. He continually fed spiders to a hellbear doom.

Also, leading up to the Shanghai major, EG was like 7-1 vs Vega if you include the Captain's Draft tournament.

Edit: My point being, this is why DC didn't get results. Aui and Bulba are skilled, but they are not the world's best players, and now EG picked them up. I don't see them as the clear NA favorite over coL anymore until they play head to head.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
May 01 2016 13:55 GMT
#1783
On May 01 2016 22:29 TanGeng wrote:
I still feel like fear carry would be best for EG. The carry quality in NA dota is just a big step down.


But that would mean aui #4 which is not good. Aui is the weakest link atm.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14827 Posts
May 01 2016 13:56 GMT
#1784
aui #4

not good

please stop
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
May 01 2016 14:17 GMT
#1785
On May 01 2016 22:55 DucK- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2016 22:29 TanGeng wrote:
I still feel like fear carry would be best for EG. The carry quality in NA dota is just a big step down.


But that would mean aui #4 which is not good. Aui is the weakest link atm.

WTF are you talking about, Aui's #4 was a key component to EG winning TI5. The opposing teams literally had to ban out his heroes in the first phase or else they'd lose
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
May 01 2016 14:25 GMT
#1786
On May 01 2016 23:17 wims80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2016 22:55 DucK- wrote:
On May 01 2016 22:29 TanGeng wrote:
I still feel like fear carry would be best for EG. The carry quality in NA dota is just a big step down.


But that would mean aui #4 which is not good. Aui is the weakest link atm.

WTF are you talking about, Aui's #4 was a key component to EG winning TI5. The opposing teams literally had to ban out his heroes in the first phase or else they'd lose


Not good in a sense that it is very farm dependent and reliant on his team to make the space. That's the issue PPD had with aui #4. Fear's #4 at least can do shit if necessary, but aui can't.
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
May 01 2016 14:43 GMT
#1787
Yes the 4-protect-Aui farming 4 isn't a viable strat any more either.
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wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
May 01 2016 16:18 GMT
#1788
also no more techies xd
Dysisa
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden2376 Posts
May 01 2016 18:22 GMT
#1789
Well, so much for that role swap discussion
fuck dota 2 | "i don't like ppd, and i really look forward to one day beating that motherfucker" -Swindlemelonzz, my personal hero
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
May 01 2016 18:48 GMT
#1790
I'm actually happy EG came back to make top 3 at WePlay. It's exciting to see the potential this team will have in their new line up. Just remember guys it's a brand new patch. You can see the progression EG had during the tournament during game 1. I was pretty confident EG could have taken the whole series by winning game 3, but sometimes you that's just Dota. Stay positive! #BleedBlue
Getting too old for this..
Goolpsy
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark301 Posts
May 01 2016 19:21 GMT
#1791
I am very impressed with how many heroes Fear plays extraordinarily well. I does seem though, since he changed to 4th positition, that they draft a greeder 4th; and usually not one that can help them win lanes.

Since Arteezy joined, and even now; there seems to be little focus on actually winning lanes. In most of the games I have seen of them they have been behind all game and then turned it around with superior teamfighting lategame.

I wish they would buy Sumail more space earlygame so he can take over the midgame.
yotsuna
Profile Joined June 2011
Hong Kong186 Posts
May 01 2016 19:27 GMT
#1792
On May 02 2016 04:21 Goolpsy wrote:
I am very impressed with how many heroes Fear plays extraordinarily well. I does seem though, since he changed to 4th positition, that they draft a greeder 4th; and usually not one that can help them win lanes.

Since Arteezy joined, and even now; there seems to be little focus on actually winning lanes. In most of the games I have seen of them they have been behind all game and then turned it around with superior teamfighting lategame.

I wish they would buy Sumail more space earlygame so he can take over the midgame.


i agree, they seem to have alot more success when they give fear heroes such as bounty, mirana and earth spirit.
wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
May 01 2016 19:36 GMT
#1793
On May 02 2016 04:21 Goolpsy wrote:
I am very impressed with how many heroes Fear plays extraordinarily well. I does seem though, since he changed to 4th positition, that they draft a greeder 4th; and usually not one that can help them win lanes.

Since Arteezy joined, and even now; there seems to be little focus on actually winning lanes. In most of the games I have seen of them they have been behind all game and then turned it around with superior teamfighting lategame.

I wish they would buy Sumail more space earlygame so he can take over the midgame.

They have always been getting greedy position 4s tho. Aui always played super greedy semi supports, Zai did as well a lot of the time
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14827 Posts
May 01 2016 20:04 GMT
#1794
honestly the team developed really well through the LAN, excited to see them at Epicenter

don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 01 2016 22:17 GMT
#1795
For new patch & new roster, I think it went well. They actually 2-0'd a team, which is uncommon in the early stages of a patch for EG. (They played 14 out of a max of 15 possible games. Or 14 of 20 possible in the tournament.) So this will be valuable for them.

ppd is very Bill Belichik-like: he wants to remove what you do best and pick you apart with how EG play the field, as it's given to them. It's why "standard" EG rolls over the lower tier teams but can have problems in game 1 with any Tier 1 team. (Or a team playing like Tier 1 that weekend.) It makes them amazingly consistent, but they're going to rarely be truly dominant until late into a long tournament.

Still, it was a solid showing. They won some money, learned some things and put on some good Dota. ppd & fear teams continue their ridiculous record in Elimination Matches. Though I'd have liked to see them play MVP again, minus the fact I figure they were going to lose to MVP, as MVP was firing on all cylinders and EG is still learning how they want to play this roster.

Though the Ember + Lifestealer combo was damn fun, it has to be said.
razor10854
Profile Joined May 2016
Indonesia8 Posts
May 02 2016 02:33 GMT
#1796
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
May 03 2016 09:39 GMT
#1797
On May 02 2016 03:22 Dysisa wrote:
Well, so much for that role swap discussion https://twitter.com/FearDotA/status/726835891235336193

No matter what Fear says, I'm still a huge fan of Fear carry. :D
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Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
May 05 2016 01:00 GMT
#1798
Yeah i mean it's really nice that Fear has his teammate's back, but if they could I'd imagine EG would prefer Fear over Aui in both positions.

Which brings up an interesting and highly relevant question: if you could clone people, would what the scariest one-man team be?
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Achaian
Profile Joined April 2015
United States3369 Posts
May 05 2016 01:11 GMT
#1799
On May 05 2016 10:00 Orome wrote:
Yeah i mean it's really nice that Fear has his teammate's back, but if they could I'd imagine EG would prefer Fear over Aui in both positions.

Which brings up an interesting and highly relevant question: if you could clone people, would what the scariest one-man team be?


Fear, FY, Universe, N0tail, maybe even Kuroky. With how long most of these players have been around, there's a decent pool of high level role swappers
wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
May 05 2016 01:11 GMT
#1800
Fear x5? There aren't many players as versatile as Fear
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
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