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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
March 26 2016 14:13 GMT
#1701
Haha i guess but with Fear his age and how much he has given to the Dota community he might be done. Must be hard watching team mates come and go over the past few years etc. But yeah hope not
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44125 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-26 18:28:47
March 26 2016 18:22 GMT
#1702
He's not the only older players. I mean burning is 29, xiao8 is 26, puppey is 26. I'm sure alot of the other players are like only a few years behind Fear.

Idk he's in a good team and will probably continue playing with EG whatever the result is after TI6
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lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
March 26 2016 18:54 GMT
#1703
He might just need a break. It's a bad time to get out of the game, though. He spent over a decade earning no money playing full time, and now he's getting 100+k prizepools on the regular and made a nice million from TI5. The only reason I see him leaving while the money is available is if his arm really does feel like it'll eventually just be unusable (in a gaming sense).
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44125 Posts
March 26 2016 20:26 GMT
#1704


Looks like the great "switch to bulba before TI6" eg plan might happen
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wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-26 20:31:00
March 26 2016 20:30 GMT
#1705
i'm almost certain bulba to coach, zai to 3 was the plan the entire time

my body is so ready for the secret vs eg games to come. now with 200% more memes
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44125 Posts
March 26 2016 20:35 GMT
#1706
this eg roster actually got the better offlaner than the TI5 eg roster if zai switches before TI6
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ChickenDieAlive
Profile Joined September 2015
699 Posts
March 26 2016 23:13 GMT
#1707
I'm pretty sure Universe won't stay in Secret forever. My guess is that he will go back to EG after TI6.

If Fear retires, they still have Zai.
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
March 26 2016 23:18 GMT
#1708
PPD seemed pretty adamant on stream that switching Zai in isn't a thing and no player would accept to join a team just to play in Manila and then get booted for TI.

But I suppose never say never if things don't go as they wish with Bulba.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
March 27 2016 02:20 GMT
#1709
On March 27 2016 08:18 spudde123 wrote:
PPD seemed pretty adamant on stream that switching Zai in isn't a thing and no player would accept to join a team just to play in Manila and then get booted for TI.

But I suppose never say never if things don't go as they wish with Bulba.


It actually wouldn't, generally speaking, be a good idea to get through Manila then switch. So ppd is correct there, but everyone is quite aware of what could happen if things go badly at Manila.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44125 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-27 05:49:47
March 27 2016 05:49 GMT
#1710
On March 27 2016 08:18 spudde123 wrote:
PPD seemed pretty adamant on stream that switching Zai in isn't a thing and no player would accept to join a team just to play in Manila and then get booted for TI.

But I suppose never say never if things don't go as they wish with Bulba.

I mean we knew they were gonna switch mason but they never said anything about it. Not counting it out
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bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
March 27 2016 06:04 GMT
#1711
On March 27 2016 08:18 spudde123 wrote:
PPD seemed pretty adamant on stream that switching Zai in isn't a thing and no player would accept to join a team just to play in Manila and then get booted for TI.

But I suppose never say never if things don't go as they wish with Bulba.


He isn't going to straight out say it , because Bulba is a player on the team and they are using him for Manila major , but if things go wrong .... why else put Zai as a sub , i was surprised to see Zai as a Sub for EG and not secret , always thought they gonna give PLD the boot and get Zai in there .
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-27 07:49:00
March 27 2016 07:32 GMT
#1712
Zai has been a sub for EG before.

I don't know what you guys are smoking, the probability of Zai playing TI6 is practically 0. Unless they poison Bulba or Fear can't use his hand, the current roster will play.

Bulba would never join a team if there was any indication that he would be swapped out before TI. Valve's rules indicate that a player has to agree to be subbed too, and according to Swindle (at least) there needs to be a legitimate reason for the substitution as well.

The only way EG makes a roster change is if they're willing to go through qualifiers for TI. But then they could take any player, they wouldn't need to care about him being a sub.
uthgard
Profile Joined January 2015
2098 Posts
March 27 2016 07:45 GMT
#1713
eh this time I think ppd speak the truth, very little chance zai will be playing in the main roster imo. Only chance is probably bulba doing some Solo betting against his own team shit, which won't happen.

On March 27 2016 15:04 bluzi wrote:
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On March 27 2016 08:18 spudde123 wrote:
PPD seemed pretty adamant on stream that switching Zai in isn't a thing and no player would accept to join a team just to play in Manila and then get booted for TI.

But I suppose never say never if things don't go as they wish with Bulba.


He isn't going to straight out say it , because Bulba is a player on the team and they are using him for Manila major , but if things go wrong .... why else put Zai as a sub , i was surprised to see Zai as a Sub for EG and not secret , always thought they gonna give PLD the boot and get Zai in there .

despite rtz I think zai will have even less chance playing with secret, why would they replace the superior player anyway
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44125 Posts
March 27 2016 08:00 GMT
#1714
this zai thing is just a speculation since we clearly know who's the better player in general between them .. if it goes badly for eg there may be a chance idk

On March 27 2016 16:45 uthgard wrote:

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On March 27 2016 15:04 bluzi wrote:
On March 27 2016 08:18 spudde123 wrote:
PPD seemed pretty adamant on stream that switching Zai in isn't a thing and no player would accept to join a team just to play in Manila and then get booted for TI.

But I suppose never say never if things don't go as they wish with Bulba.


He isn't going to straight out say it , because Bulba is a player on the team and they are using him for Manila major , but if things go wrong .... why else put Zai as a sub , i was surprised to see Zai as a Sub for EG and not secret , always thought they gonna give PLD the boot and get Zai in there .

despite rtz I think zai will have even less chance playing with secret, why would they replace the superior player anyway

though there is no point to

actually the possible players that zai would replace in Secret would be the universe/puppey/pie, but even with that possibility there's alot of problems

obviously he can't replace puppey, dude's the spiritual leader/drafter/shotcaller of the team you essentially kill the team that way .. pie's actually a really flexible support, actually synergyzes with the team really well and probably has some shotcalling to do inside the team too (old c9 ) .. so that leaves us to universe which imo an upgrade but that is not happening
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deadmau
Profile Joined September 2010
960 Posts
March 27 2016 09:32 GMT
#1715
I have a lot of excitement for Aui's return as a carry, but I've never really seen him perform as carry. I like Aui as a person, but I have no idea what to expect from his carry play.
Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
March 27 2016 22:57 GMT
#1716
I remamber him being rather good as a carry in Dignitas. Especially his Tiny was really strong iirc.
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
March 27 2016 23:43 GMT
#1717
if there is one other player i trust to play more difficult heroes like naga, it is aui.
i was getting triggered so hard seeing naga on envy's stream, because seriously he is just awful at being efficient and micromanaging on that hero specifically.
arteezy will always be #1 with that hero until people start grinding and learning how much time you save on illusions by cloning and making quick decisions, but i'm absolutely certain a player like aui would come close 2nd.

arteezy has the tiny little details down to having a perfect game, which is why i've always liked watching him play even beyond the pub match tilt mode. miracle is another such player with even better game flow than arteezy, albeit with small holes in mechanics and timing. i don't see how aui can't combine these two and be the 1 position that EG needs (much like the hole that fear filled).
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jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
March 28 2016 02:00 GMT
#1718
With Fear's injury and knowing some of the issues that came about in Aui's first run with EG it makes sense to have him play carry. I believe he will be a pretty solid carry for them.
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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14827 Posts
March 28 2016 06:22 GMT
#1719
nice you guys are stuck with me now

Remember that at TI3 Bulba was considered better than Universe, Sure he's struggled with getting a team together over the past few years, but not only is his mind for Dota sick, his gameplay is sick too.

He's got what it takes to play, and I don't think Zai offlane is as good as everyone thinks.

Aui carry is also legit, him and universe were legit the saving graces of that dignitas squad.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44125 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-28 09:39:16
March 28 2016 08:59 GMT
#1720
seriously dude that is some azarkon level hype on bulba i've never seen somebody discredit zai so hard even though both his support and offlane play was many times better than bulba .. it's not even close about the difference in skill, results and even just how many times each one carried the team , you could remember alot of times zai did that but you could remember bulba throwing and playing average more than he carried any team he played

i don't think the times bulba carried his team you could count on your finger while zai there are times he looked like the best player in both EG or Secret .. and those were rosters full of star players

this is like comparing Maybe(lgd mid) and some of the awful NA mid 6k that the mid NA 6k player is indefinitely better than maybe even though in every standpoint it points out that Maybe is just a better player .. saying zai is overrated and telling that bulba is better even though there is nothing that can back up bulba being better than zai is like saying that s4 is bad at playmaking mids

(i seriously feel like we're getting trolled by shaella with this bulba thing)

i'm srry dude i just think you are really wrong this time but everybody can have different opinions ofc .. i could be wrong with this and then suddenly with eg bulba goes full ham unlike all his previous teams but this is one of the times i doubt it
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