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Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
December 31 2014 02:04 GMT
#301
On December 31 2014 10:36 utcraigo14 wrote:
I am pretty much dying to know what happens with EG's roster, as well as the rest of the shuffles. I never saw this team breaking up. After they placed 2nd at the International, they have been the strongest team out of the west, along with Secret.

they placed 3rd at ti, not that's it's much lower, but at least in terms of prize money it's a big difference. and honestly eg only looked dominant in the fast pushing meta. when deathballing and pushing got nerfed they were forced to play the farming, late game and they fell off a lot and couldn't really get the same results. i don't wanna say they were a patch team cuz they would still be good but abusing tree/dp/jakiro every game does take it's toll when you suddenly have to play something else. they had to either change the way they play or change their players, seems like they made a choice.
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
December 31 2014 02:36 GMT
#302
On December 31 2014 11:04 Kabras wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2014 10:36 utcraigo14 wrote:
I am pretty much dying to know what happens with EG's roster, as well as the rest of the shuffles. I never saw this team breaking up. After they placed 2nd at the International, they have been the strongest team out of the west, along with Secret.

they placed 3rd at ti, not that's it's much lower, but at least in terms of prize money it's a big difference. and honestly eg only looked dominant in the fast pushing meta. when deathballing and pushing got nerfed they were forced to play the farming, late game and they fell off a lot and couldn't really get the same results. i don't wanna say they were a patch team cuz they would still be good but abusing tree/dp/jakiro every game does take it's toll when you suddenly have to play something else. they had to either change the way they play or change their players, seems like they made a choice.

What?

This EG started with the farming meta. They basically created the hardcarry mid farmer strategy and ran it exclusively for months, and were definitely one of the teams to push the 4-core meta. It was still their go-to strat at TI3, and also why they lost to VG (stuck with the heavy farming lineup and lost against push).

They only went to the heavy push and deathball because it was so ridiculous during the previous patch.

If you believe the rumours, the issues are mostly due to them not practising. And if that's true, it makes sense that RTZ and Zai are the two players to leave, because they're the two that are still committed to high school.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
December 31 2014 03:04 GMT
#303
E-sports is real
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
Doomblaze
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1292 Posts
December 31 2014 05:12 GMT
#304
The roster changes arent announced yet are they? Im seeing stuff everywhere and occasionally people are correct about whats happening, but it seems like they just get lucky since people are talking about every option
In Mushi we trust
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
December 31 2014 05:19 GMT
#305
On December 31 2014 14:12 Doomblaze wrote:
The roster changes arent announced yet are they? Im seeing stuff everywhere and occasionally people are correct about whats happening, but it seems like they just get lucky since people are talking about every option


There is actual good sources that there's shuffles of at least 1 player for EG/C9/Secret, and RTZ said on his stream that he won't be playing for EG in china, but he will be playing with Zai.
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
December 31 2014 05:51 GMT
#306
That may be because both eg and alliance lol are getting name changes due to riot unapproval, so it may just be under a different banner
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
molecu
Profile Joined June 2013
347 Posts
December 31 2014 09:17 GMT
#307
Why?

Well at least the doto scene is interesting again.
it all matters
gergnub
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland51 Posts
December 31 2014 11:39 GMT
#308
z[A]i and [A]rteezy!
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44095 Posts
December 31 2014 13:30 GMT
#309
this is a quote
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
December 31 2014 15:26 GMT
#310
incoming months of confusing between Demon and D3M0N.
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
December 31 2014 15:41 GMT
#311
Possible hint towards Aui joining to replace Zai.

http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/2qx9j1/aui_2000_i_need_to_take_a_selfie_for_charlie/
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
December 31 2014 15:52 GMT
#312
On January 01 2015 00:41 Daralii wrote:
Possible hint towards Aui joining to replace Zai.

http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/2qx9j1/aui_2000_i_need_to_take_a_selfie_for_charlie/


I hope so. I think Aui is really good fit for a greedy 4. I also really like his attitude.
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
December 31 2014 16:00 GMT
#313
I'd be really excited for a team of Fear/Sumail/Universe/Aui/PPD.

Might be enough for me to change my flair from Liquid until TL picks up a new team.
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44095 Posts
December 31 2014 16:15 GMT
#314
On January 01 2015 01:00 eieio wrote:
I'd be really excited for a team of Fear/Sumail/Universe/Aui/PPD.

Might be enough for me to change my flair from Liquid until TL picks up a new team.

i'm sad if this was the case always felt like EE and Aui are kinda like Loda & Akke
this is a quote
bumwithagun
Profile Joined January 2011
United States153 Posts
January 01 2015 05:00 GMT
#315
this is terrible. EG was the west's best hope for TI5...now...ugh...
saocyn
Profile Joined July 2011
United States937 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-01 05:36:36
January 01 2015 05:34 GMT
#316
this is honestly sad. i don't believe zai AT ALL was at fault. everytime i watch him play he is always consistent and reliable, his counter initiations / initiations are always on point....i'd be ok if this team lost arteezy but zai is pivotal.

i was on the arteezy hype train, but let's be honest he failed to meet any sort of expectation this year. there is no sense of domination from him, there was a point in time where he'd always beat the other mid player, but now he's barely capable of holding his own. even with farm he gets consistently caught out for overly greedy farm. there are better mids for the west guaranteed. its just hard to watch such talented mid players go out like this......just like it was with dendi...

on another note, not ok with aui....this team is starting to look like eg dota 1.0, a pure carry player roster or farm oriented team. i had high hopes for the sadboys, i really thought if they stuck it out and went to ti-5 they had a realistic chance of taking the whole thing.
bumwithagun
Profile Joined January 2011
United States153 Posts
January 01 2015 09:40 GMT
#317
tbh i think RTZ was playing really well this year. Idk why you think otherwise. At the summit Zai was by far the teams weakest link, and RTZ played really well.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
January 01 2015 12:41 GMT
#318
On January 01 2015 01:15 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 01:00 eieio wrote:
I'd be really excited for a team of Fear/Sumail/Universe/Aui/PPD.

Might be enough for me to change my flair from Liquid until TL picks up a new team.

i'm sad if this was the case always felt like EE and Aui are kinda like Loda & Akke

rtz and ee are more like loda and akke tbh
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
January 01 2015 14:45 GMT
#319
rtz and Zai are both great, but if the Aui/sumail thing pans out I'm more excited than doom and gloom. EG was 5 great players, 2 leave, they still have the universe/fear/ppd backbone. It'll just be adapting to Sumail's style and nurturing him if they do go with him permanently.
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
Shergal
Profile Joined May 2014
Argentina1191 Posts
January 01 2015 21:37 GMT
#320
RTZ has been miles better than zai since TI4. It's been him and Fear carrying the team to all their LAN wins in the last quarter of 2014
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