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spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
January 02 2015 22:16 GMT
#341
On January 02 2015 19:04 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 18:47 lestye wrote:
I wonder why EG would let Artour leave when they make so much bank selling his t-shirts and his stream.

GGA contracts don't allow players to leave of their own accord, both him and Zai had to have been kicked.


If players simply don't want to play together anymore, it really doesn't make sense for a team to force the contract (if that would be possible) and either force the players to play together or have the players on the bench not playing.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
January 02 2015 22:33 GMT
#342
On January 03 2015 07:16 spudde123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 19:04 Daralii wrote:
On January 02 2015 18:47 lestye wrote:
I wonder why EG would let Artour leave when they make so much bank selling his t-shirts and his stream.

GGA contracts don't allow players to leave of their own accord, both him and Zai had to have been kicked.


If players simply don't want to play together anymore, it really doesn't make sense for a team to force the contract (if that would be possible) and either force the players to play together or have the players on the bench not playing.

Yeah, in practice those kinds of clauses (especially in "lesser" industries) don't really stop people from leaving, but they at least stop them from pulling a surprise exit, and sometimes make sure that the teams they leave get some compensation in return.

If anyone really wanted to leave GGA, I doubt any of them could actually be stopped by the organization...but they'd actually have to come forward and say that they want to leave.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
GiveMeYourtTots
Profile Joined May 2014
990 Posts
January 06 2015 01:16 GMT
#343
Where is this sumail kid from?
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
January 06 2015 01:25 GMT
#344
On January 06 2015 10:16 GiveMeYourtTots wrote:
Where is this sumail kid from?


If what I remember right, he's an immigrant from Pakistan with American citizenship, or he's of Pakistani descent first generation american.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
bumwithagun
Profile Joined January 2011
United States153 Posts
January 06 2015 03:27 GMT
#345
whelp, he aint no RTZ
GiveMeYourtTots
Profile Joined May 2014
990 Posts
January 06 2015 04:57 GMT
#346
Never thought Arteezy was that important for EG.
Murkinlol
Profile Joined August 2010
United States366 Posts
January 06 2015 05:05 GMT
#347
On January 06 2015 13:57 GiveMeYourtTots wrote:
Never thought Arteezy was that important for EG.



It's unreal comparing his movements as Lycan to Fear's this game. Sumali has been good imo but I feel like Universe has been the worst player today so far.
Ratchets, designer jackets
Ryukku
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore545 Posts
January 06 2015 05:15 GMT
#348
I feel the draft is the biggest problem. With RTZ they always had a better late game with his hero pool and playstyle. Now they draft around the mid game they just arent as good in the mid game as their late game decision making IMO.
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
January 06 2015 05:19 GMT
#349
They need more then one carry and not rely on 4 ult cooldowns and be helpless without them.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Voronoff
Profile Joined May 2010
United States302 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-06 07:44:19
January 06 2015 07:43 GMT
#350
Aui was worse than Universe. They didn't look too terrible in the last series, hopefully they are finding their sea legs.
Beirut
Profile Joined January 2011
United States673 Posts
January 06 2015 15:08 GMT
#351
On January 06 2015 14:05 Murkinlol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 13:57 GiveMeYourtTots wrote:
Never thought Arteezy was that important for EG.



It's unreal comparing his movements as Lycan to Fear's this game. Sumali has been good imo but I feel like Universe has been the worst player today so far.


Yeah you can tell by his dotabuff that Fear has been practicing Lycan for a few days straight. Part of the problem is apparently this all came suddenly for them (Arteezy and Zai leaving), so they're definitely going to need some time to cover the holes of certain heroes.
widdox
Profile Joined August 2011
166 Posts
January 06 2015 15:12 GMT
#352
They showed flashes of what this team can be. I agree that some of the games they lost, were lost in the drafting phase.
Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
January 06 2015 15:16 GMT
#353
I for one is not concerned, i dont think they care to much about first place in D2L... Its theier first games together on LAN.
They prolly dont got more then max 20 scrims together as a whole, against NA opposition?
They need some time, also RTZ did, and he became a monster.
If it aint better after say 1-2 months, ill start to get a bit concerned :D
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-06 19:23:26
January 06 2015 19:17 GMT
#354
EG did fine yesterday. Drafts are really sketchy but they usually are in new patches for EG. The losses vs LV were just really bad drafts with some positioning errors from Aui. (<3 you Aui no hate)

People should get off sumail's ass - he played fine yesterday and did better on ember than RTZ ever would. The hero couldn't match that lineup late game. I'm convinced people just look at a box score on a browser and write their own story instead of actually watching games.

I don't think EG will win this tournament, but given some time, ppd usually finds a niche for a meta that his players can fit into.
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
cheese sandwich
Profile Joined July 2014
Russian Federation194 Posts
January 06 2015 21:27 GMT
#355
I can see signs of the old S A D B O Y S in these 5. Funny how the first bo3 sadboys played last year was 2-0 stomp by TL and look how EG became the best western team the rest of the year after practice and time.
Churrass
Profile Joined October 2013
573 Posts
January 06 2015 21:53 GMT
#356
On January 06 2015 13:57 GiveMeYourtTots wrote:
Never thought Arteezy was that important for EG.


arteezy is incredible underrated these days
Greenstripe
Profile Joined April 2010
United States164 Posts
January 06 2015 22:06 GMT
#357
On January 07 2015 06:53 Churrass wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 13:57 GiveMeYourtTots wrote:
Never thought Arteezy was that important for EG.


arteezy is incredible underrated these days


Overrated*
GiveMeYourtTots
Profile Joined May 2014
990 Posts
January 06 2015 22:20 GMT
#358
On January 07 2015 07:06 Greenstripe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 06:53 Churrass wrote:
On January 06 2015 13:57 GiveMeYourtTots wrote:
Never thought Arteezy was that important for EG.


arteezy is incredible underrated these days


Overrated*


TIL 10 cs per minute at 10 minute mark as lycan is overrated.
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
January 06 2015 22:27 GMT
#359
On January 07 2015 06:27 cheese sandwich wrote:
I can see signs of the old S A D B O Y S in these 5. Funny how the first bo3 sadboys played last year was 2-0 stomp by TL and look how EG became the best western team the rest of the year after practice and time.

It's amazing what practice and the actual desire to play together can do.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
Churrass
Profile Joined October 2013
573 Posts
January 07 2015 00:19 GMT
#360
On January 07 2015 07:06 Greenstripe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 06:53 Churrass wrote:
On January 06 2015 13:57 GiveMeYourtTots wrote:
Never thought Arteezy was that important for EG.


arteezy is incredible underrated these days


Overrated*


yeah, you can comeback here when arteezy is helping secret win their first lans and eg is lost like cockroaches
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