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fishbowl
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1575 Posts
December 05 2014 21:25 GMT
#261
On December 06 2014 06:03 giftdgecko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2014 11:54 DucK- wrote:
Looks like another eg final. They should take out NoT easily. C9 will be beaten as per routine. So finals against secret or vici.

Sad thing is they potentially can play up to 1 bo5 against either secret or vici. PPD mentioned he really wanted to face both of them.

Some clutch manipulating of the bracket by EG. Getting NoT and C9 on their way to the finals seems like a much easier path than having to go through TT and Secret.

So you're saying they learned that bracket floating from their FGC counterparts?
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44306 Posts
December 07 2014 03:03 GMT
#262
this is a quote
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
December 07 2014 16:27 GMT
#263
Artour hasn't mastered looking at boobs without anyone noticing.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Moustache Cash Stash
Profile Joined February 2014
United States222 Posts
December 10 2014 15:46 GMT
#264
Is there internal tension among EG? That PJSalt video (can't remember exact name or provide link right now) showed an argument after losing a Summit 2 game that really seemed like the boys had some agreement issues over strategy.
You got a 4x multicast? You must be so good at Dota.
cuckoo
Profile Joined October 2014
595 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-10 15:55:29
December 10 2014 15:55 GMT
#265
was that really tension?

it felt just like reddit drama. they discussed the game like adults, even EE said only a composed team would discuss like that after a loss
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
December 10 2014 22:44 GMT
#266
EG not going to play in the next SLTV because they are tired and want to space LANs out. http://live.starladder.tv/en/news/1202-eg-withdraw-from-star-series-11

On December 11 2014 00:46 Moustache Cash Stash wrote:
Is there internal tension among EG? That PJSalt video (can't remember exact name or provide link right now) showed an argument after losing a Summit 2 game that really seemed like the boys had some agreement issues over strategy.


that was hardly an argument, they were literally just talking about why they lost the game.
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
Moustache Cash Stash
Profile Joined February 2014
United States222 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-11 13:02:28
December 11 2014 13:01 GMT
#267
On December 11 2014 07:44 lolnoty wrote:
EG not going to play in the next SLTV because they are tired and want to space LANs out. http://live.starladder.tv/en/news/1202-eg-withdraw-from-star-series-11

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On December 11 2014 00:46 Moustache Cash Stash wrote:
Is there internal tension among EG? That PJSalt video (can't remember exact name or provide link right now) showed an argument after losing a Summit 2 game that really seemed like the boys had some agreement issues over strategy.


that was hardly an argument, they were literally just talking about why they lost the game.

Maybe I just remember it a little bit more harshly than it really was. It seemed kinda hostile, but maybe everyone just swears more casually in ESports. Well I'm glad that its nothing.
You got a 4x multicast? You must be so good at Dota.
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
December 14 2014 00:04 GMT
#268
PPD Dreamleague Vlog

Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
December 15 2014 00:36 GMT
#269
This thread needs more life...maybe I'm just too used to the Idra fan club.
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
December 15 2014 01:27 GMT
#270
On December 15 2014 09:36 Chewbacca. wrote:
This thread needs more life...maybe I'm just too used to the Idra fan club.

Uhh well EG got named "team of the year" on joindota, even though that's kind of debatable.

Also funny is bigdaddy/puppy getting "support duo of the year" over FY/fenrir, and Kuro getting carry of the year when he really hasn't done a damn thing and only been a carry for a few months. I guess the take away is every fan vote award is the worst.
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 01:52:23
December 15 2014 01:51 GMT
#271
On December 15 2014 10:27 lolnoty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 09:36 Chewbacca. wrote:
This thread needs more life...maybe I'm just too used to the Idra fan club.

Uhh well EG got named "team of the year" on joindota, even though that's kind of debatable.

Also funny is bigdaddy/puppy getting "support duo of the year" over FY/fenrir, and Kuro getting carry of the year when he really hasn't done a damn thing and only been a carry for a few months. I guess the take away is every fan vote award is the worst.

Seemingly completely unrelated to the frequency of people discussing the team/interview/tourney games/stream games for EG players? But ok.
bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
December 15 2014 02:08 GMT
#272
On December 15 2014 10:27 lolnoty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 09:36 Chewbacca. wrote:
This thread needs more life...maybe I'm just too used to the Idra fan club.

Uhh well EG got named "team of the year" on joindota, even though that's kind of debatable.

Also funny is bigdaddy/puppy getting "support duo of the year" over FY/fenrir, and Kuro getting carry of the year when he really hasn't done a damn thing and only been a carry for a few months. I guess the take away is every fan vote award is the worst.


you do realize that joindota is notorious for immense european bias. Tobi's mancrush on Na'Vi and Puppey/Kuro is well documented lol
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 04:00:12
December 15 2014 03:58 GMT
#273
On December 15 2014 10:51 Chewbacca. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 10:27 lolnoty wrote:
On December 15 2014 09:36 Chewbacca. wrote:
This thread needs more life...maybe I'm just too used to the Idra fan club.

Uhh well EG got named "team of the year" on joindota, even though that's kind of debatable.

Also funny is bigdaddy/puppy getting "support duo of the year" over FY/fenrir, and Kuro getting carry of the year when he really hasn't done a damn thing and only been a carry for a few months. I guess the take away is every fan vote award is the worst.

Seemingly completely unrelated to the frequency of people discussing the team/interview/tourney games/stream games for EG players? But ok.


Just stringing together the loosest EG thing I can cause you wanted thread movement.
On December 15 2014 11:08 bagels21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 10:27 lolnoty wrote:
On December 15 2014 09:36 Chewbacca. wrote:
This thread needs more life...maybe I'm just too used to the Idra fan club.

Uhh well EG got named "team of the year" on joindota, even though that's kind of debatable.

Also funny is bigdaddy/puppy getting "support duo of the year" over FY/fenrir, and Kuro getting carry of the year when he really hasn't done a damn thing and only been a carry for a few months. I guess the take away is every fan vote award is the worst.


you do realize that joindota is notorious for immense european bias. Tobi's mancrush on Na'Vi and Puppey/Kuro is well documented lol


I think LD/any western site would be equally biased unfortunately. Most of the categories for teams/players should have gone to the Chinese.
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
December 15 2014 04:14 GMT
#274
Stupid awards anyway. The awards should have been made after ti and not at the end of each calendar year. Ay its pretty sad to see joindota so shitty in terms of coverage this year.
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 05:50:00
December 15 2014 05:49 GMT
#275
On December 15 2014 12:58 lolnoty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 10:51 Chewbacca. wrote:
On December 15 2014 10:27 lolnoty wrote:
On December 15 2014 09:36 Chewbacca. wrote:
This thread needs more life...maybe I'm just too used to the Idra fan club.

Uhh well EG got named "team of the year" on joindota, even though that's kind of debatable.

Also funny is bigdaddy/puppy getting "support duo of the year" over FY/fenrir, and Kuro getting carry of the year when he really hasn't done a damn thing and only been a carry for a few months. I guess the take away is every fan vote award is the worst.

Seemingly completely unrelated to the frequency of people discussing the team/interview/tourney games/stream games for EG players? But ok.


Just stringing together the loosest EG thing I can cause you wanted thread movement.
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 11:08 bagels21 wrote:
On December 15 2014 10:27 lolnoty wrote:
On December 15 2014 09:36 Chewbacca. wrote:
This thread needs more life...maybe I'm just too used to the Idra fan club.

Uhh well EG got named "team of the year" on joindota, even though that's kind of debatable.

Also funny is bigdaddy/puppy getting "support duo of the year" over FY/fenrir, and Kuro getting carry of the year when he really hasn't done a damn thing and only been a carry for a few months. I guess the take away is every fan vote award is the worst.


you do realize that joindota is notorious for immense european bias. Tobi's mancrush on Na'Vi and Puppey/Kuro is well documented lol


I think LD/any western site would be equally biased unfortunately. Most of the categories for teams/players should have gone to the Chinese.


We've generally been accused of being somewhat Eastern biased actually, I think the best counter argument to that is that Reality is usually Eastern biased
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
December 15 2014 06:25 GMT
#276
Well, I wouldn't say EG as team of the year is that weird. They were like...what, Top 3 in 9/13 tournaments? Only counting ones they could have been in.

Newbee or VG would be the obvious other choices, but they did bounce up and down all year. Of course, winning TI4 should probably count for a lot more.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Mutineer
Profile Joined March 2013
New Zealand179 Posts
December 15 2014 06:57 GMT
#277
The more i watch Artesy the more I wander how any teammates can stand to play with him.
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 07:14:27
December 15 2014 07:09 GMT
#278
EG as team of the year is objectively indefensible if you evaluate teams on a global level.

If we look at just results, where they're eclipsed by VG overall, Newbee in terms of when it matters, and only roughly equal to DK in terms of overall performance in tournaments.

On impact on the overall meta EG also loses out to each of the three Chinese teams, which can be clearly seen in the way their playstyle took a sharp turn after TI4 to very closely resemble that of VG/Newbee's TI4 strategies.

Even in terms of Drama/Storyline/Personality EG falls short - The rise and fall of DK was probably the story that dominated the first half year, and the second by the current VG.

EG is without a doubt the best team in the west of 2014, but to say that they're the team of the year in Dota overall is absolutely ridiculous in anything besides the affection of western fans. Since the JD awards are obviously framed that way, there's nothing wrong with their placement of EG.
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
December 15 2014 08:54 GMT
#279
On December 15 2014 16:09 Kupon3ss wrote:
EG as team of the year is objectively indefensible if you evaluate teams on a global level.

If we look at just results, where they're eclipsed by VG overall, Newbee in terms of when it matters, and only roughly equal to DK in terms of overall performance in tournaments.

On impact on the overall meta EG also loses out to each of the three Chinese teams, which can be clearly seen in the way their playstyle took a sharp turn after TI4 to very closely resemble that of VG/Newbee's TI4 strategies.

Even in terms of Drama/Storyline/Personality EG falls short - The rise and fall of DK was probably the story that dominated the first half year, and the second by the current VG.

EG is without a doubt the best team in the west of 2014, but to say that they're the team of the year in Dota overall is absolutely ridiculous in anything besides the affection of western fans. Since the JD awards are obviously framed that way, there's nothing wrong with their placement of EG.


It's a year long award though, and EG's really been the only consistently top team throughout the whole year. DK and iG were strong in the first half, VG and Newbee being stronger TI4 and onward. EG, meanwhile, was making it to grand finals the whole year.

Granted, I'd still say VG would be the better team, if only because TI4 should count for a lot more. Newbee wasn't really consistent enough in every other tournament, even if they won the big one.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 14:25:01
December 15 2014 14:24 GMT
#280
VG has been around as a world-class team since EMS in Poland 12 months ago and has never looked weaker than EG during any of the past 12 months apart from the month leading up to TI4 and the month after TI4 when it was rebanding
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
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