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fishbowl
United States1575 Posts
On December 06 2014 06:03 giftdgecko wrote: Some clutch manipulating of the bracket by EG. Getting NoT and C9 on their way to the finals seems like a much easier path than having to go through TT and Secret. So you're saying they learned that bracket floating from their FGC counterparts? | ||
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goody153
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
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Moustache Cash Stash
United States222 Posts
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cuckoo
595 Posts
it felt just like reddit drama. they discussed the game like adults, even EE said only a composed team would discuss like that after a loss | ||
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lolnoty
United States7166 Posts
On December 11 2014 00:46 Moustache Cash Stash wrote: Is there internal tension among EG? That PJSalt video (can't remember exact name or provide link right now) showed an argument after losing a Summit 2 game that really seemed like the boys had some agreement issues over strategy. that was hardly an argument, they were literally just talking about why they lost the game. | ||
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Moustache Cash Stash
United States222 Posts
On December 11 2014 07:44 lolnoty wrote: EG not going to play in the next SLTV because they are tired and want to space LANs out. http://live.starladder.tv/en/news/1202-eg-withdraw-from-star-series-11 that was hardly an argument, they were literally just talking about why they lost the game. Maybe I just remember it a little bit more harshly than it really was. It seemed kinda hostile, but maybe everyone just swears more casually in ESports. Well I'm glad that its nothing. | ||
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Chewbacca.
United States3634 Posts
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Chewbacca.
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lolnoty
United States7166 Posts
On December 15 2014 09:36 Chewbacca. wrote: This thread needs more life...maybe I'm just too used to the Idra fan club. Uhh well EG got named "team of the year" on joindota, even though that's kind of debatable. Also funny is bigdaddy/puppy getting "support duo of the year" over FY/fenrir, and Kuro getting carry of the year when he really hasn't done a damn thing and only been a carry for a few months. I guess the take away is every fan vote award is the worst. | ||
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Chewbacca.
United States3634 Posts
On December 15 2014 10:27 lolnoty wrote: Uhh well EG got named "team of the year" on joindota, even though that's kind of debatable. Also funny is bigdaddy/puppy getting "support duo of the year" over FY/fenrir, and Kuro getting carry of the year when he really hasn't done a damn thing and only been a carry for a few months. I guess the take away is every fan vote award is the worst. Seemingly completely unrelated to the frequency of people discussing the team/interview/tourney games/stream games for EG players? But ok.  | ||
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bagels21
United States4357 Posts
On December 15 2014 10:27 lolnoty wrote: Uhh well EG got named "team of the year" on joindota, even though that's kind of debatable. Also funny is bigdaddy/puppy getting "support duo of the year" over FY/fenrir, and Kuro getting carry of the year when he really hasn't done a damn thing and only been a carry for a few months. I guess the take away is every fan vote award is the worst. you do realize that joindota is notorious for immense european bias. Tobi's mancrush on Na'Vi and Puppey/Kuro is well documented lol | ||
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lolnoty
United States7166 Posts
On December 15 2014 10:51 Chewbacca. wrote: Seemingly completely unrelated to the frequency of people discussing the team/interview/tourney games/stream games for EG players? But ok. Just stringing together the loosest EG thing I can cause you wanted thread movement.  On December 15 2014 11:08 bagels21 wrote: you do realize that joindota is notorious for immense european bias. Tobi's mancrush on Na'Vi and Puppey/Kuro is well documented lol I think LD/any western site would be equally biased unfortunately. Most of the categories for teams/players should have gone to the Chinese. | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11446 Posts
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
On December 15 2014 12:58 lolnoty wrote: Just stringing together the loosest EG thing I can cause you wanted thread movement. I think LD/any western site would be equally biased unfortunately. Most of the categories for teams/players should have gone to the Chinese. We've generally been accused of being somewhat Eastern biased actually, I think the best counter argument to that is that Reality is usually Eastern biased | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
Newbee or VG would be the obvious other choices, but they did bounce up and down all year. Of course, winning TI4 should probably count for a lot more. | ||
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Mutineer
New Zealand179 Posts
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
If we look at just results, where they're eclipsed by VG overall, Newbee in terms of when it matters, and only roughly equal to DK in terms of overall performance in tournaments. On impact on the overall meta EG also loses out to each of the three Chinese teams, which can be clearly seen in the way their playstyle took a sharp turn after TI4 to very closely resemble that of VG/Newbee's TI4 strategies. Even in terms of Drama/Storyline/Personality EG falls short - The rise and fall of DK was probably the story that dominated the first half year, and the second by the current VG. EG is without a doubt the best team in the west of 2014, but to say that they're the team of the year in Dota overall is absolutely ridiculous in anything besides the affection of western fans. Since the JD awards are obviously framed that way, there's nothing wrong with their placement of EG. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On December 15 2014 16:09 Kupon3ss wrote: EG as team of the year is objectively indefensible if you evaluate teams on a global level. If we look at just results, where they're eclipsed by VG overall, Newbee in terms of when it matters, and only roughly equal to DK in terms of overall performance in tournaments. On impact on the overall meta EG also loses out to each of the three Chinese teams, which can be clearly seen in the way their playstyle took a sharp turn after TI4 to very closely resemble that of VG/Newbee's TI4 strategies. Even in terms of Drama/Storyline/Personality EG falls short - The rise and fall of DK was probably the story that dominated the first half year, and the second by the current VG. EG is without a doubt the best team in the west of 2014, but to say that they're the team of the year in Dota overall is absolutely ridiculous in anything besides the affection of western fans. Since the JD awards are obviously framed that way, there's nothing wrong with their placement of EG. It's a year long award though, and EG's really been the only consistently top team throughout the whole year. DK and iG were strong in the first half, VG and Newbee being stronger TI4 and onward. EG, meanwhile, was making it to grand finals the whole year. Granted, I'd still say VG would be the better team, if only because TI4 should count for a lot more. Newbee wasn't really consistent enough in every other tournament, even if they won the big one. | ||
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
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