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Achaian
Profile Joined April 2015
United States3369 Posts
August 09 2017 03:59 GMT
#2841
On August 08 2017 08:23 Achaian wrote:
remove cr1t


oh gee would you look at the time, it's time for a roster shuffle! I wonder what captain could impose order on the unruly but skilled EG, hmmm
ChickenDieAlive
Profile Joined September 2015
699 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-09 04:02:53
August 09 2017 04:01 GMT
#2842
On August 09 2017 12:59 Achaian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2017 08:23 Achaian wrote:
remove cr1t


oh gee would you look at the time, it's time for a roster shuffle! I wonder what captain could impose order on the unruly but skilled EG, hmmm


PPD obviously.

There will be a big roster change incoming.
stfuirlkthx
Profile Joined August 2017
1 Post
August 09 2017 04:05 GMT
#2843
I know it's a team game and all, but EG just looked bad after minute 10 regardless of how the laning phase went. Poorly coordinated fights and worse drafts. I don't know how their team dynamic works, but whoever is calling the shots just isn't cutting it. Individual skill ceiling is super high, but I highly doubt this iteration of EG makes it through the shuffle unscathed. It was a good run boys, thanks for the entertainment. Glhf wherever you land.
ChickenDieAlive
Profile Joined September 2015
699 Posts
August 09 2017 04:08 GMT
#2844
On August 09 2017 13:05 stfuirlkthx wrote:
I know it's a team game and all, but EG just looked bad after minute 10 regardless of how the laning phase went. Poorly coordinated fights and worse drafts. I don't know how their team dynamic works, but whoever is calling the shots just isn't cutting it. Individual skill ceiling is super high, but I highly doubt this iteration of EG makes it through the shuffle unscathed. It was a good run boys, thanks for the entertainment. Glhf wherever you land.


EG has many mechanically skilled player, so they usually do good in the laning phase. But the lack of shotcalling and leadership make them throw the lead.
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
August 09 2017 04:23 GMT
#2845
Well, we won't be seeing that EG roster again.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
August 09 2017 05:04 GMT
#2846
I hope this EG roster sticks together
Getting too old for this..
Forgottenfrog
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States1268 Posts
August 09 2017 05:16 GMT
#2847
Can someone explain to me why PL was picked in game one? It got hard counter. Disappointed that I won't be able to see EG on the final stage.
Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
August 09 2017 05:18 GMT
#2848
Sad, just sad...
When I was watching the games, it didnt feel like watching the same EG team from the last 10 months...
What happened to Sumail this TI? He has not been himself imo.
And I just cant understand this thing about rtz... he is a great player... and I love his persona, but as others have mentioned, inside of dota2, I dont feel like I cant trust in him carrying games when it mathers.

Im not sure what EG should do right now... but I trust in the the boys + pps and fear to use some time to analyze and find out what happened. If changes is what they need, I think Crit and rtz are in most danger tbh. But personally im not sure if they actually need changes.
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
August 09 2017 05:22 GMT
#2849
On August 09 2017 14:16 Forgottenfrog wrote:
Can someone explain to me why PL was picked in game one? It got hard counter. Disappointed that I won't be able to see EG on the final stage.

That PL pick was utter shit... when they picked it, Empire already had ES, AA and Bat. PL is not a natural Linkens builder, and if he makes it, its prolly a 5-6 item, he does not like BKB alott, and they already had a AA against a HoT.
+ Sven was still in the pool
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
esla_sol
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States756 Posts
August 09 2017 05:55 GMT
#2850
i'm not on suicide watch but man that was brutal. sad to see my boys go down so hard. hopefully something positive arises from the suffering.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
August 09 2017 06:00 GMT
#2851
Why let Sven through when you have an illusion hero both games? Just seems way too cocky
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Bigtony
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1606 Posts
August 09 2017 06:03 GMT
#2852
Outplayed and outdrafted in both games. The Wyvern pick was completely ineffectual both games (the ultimate is just nerfed too much) and the PL pick was mind bogglingly bad.

Zai really has not shown up like the old zai for me either.
Push 2 Harder
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
August 09 2017 07:14 GMT
#2853
Crit got caught out in FRONT of the team so many times it was mind boggling to watch , how can you just walk near cliffs FIRST when crossing the river , how can you be out of position to a point you are the first target of a lasso when in fact the wyvern is the counter to the entire initiation from Empire ...... damn Crit played bad , and has someone else mentioned above me their entire strategy was just plain bad , instead of winning more they were taking risks and paying for them dearly.
To be fair to them this TI is crazy from west POV , they are getting murdered (aside from VP for some reason) so maybe the western meta was bad , but they had time to adjust and they didn't, Fear + PPD were the heart of EG now it seems they have 0 mental strength to comeback from the abyss.
Good luck to them in the future.
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
August 09 2017 10:13 GMT
#2854
Sad to see EG go. Really enjoyed these 5 now just have to see what happens.
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
sCuMBaG
Profile Joined August 2006
United Kingdom1144 Posts
August 09 2017 10:16 GMT
#2855
Shame...
I mean I'm TL all the way - but EG is a close second.
Before seeing the bracket I was still hoping for a Liquid vs EG final.
MirageTaN
Profile Joined June 2012
Singapore871 Posts
August 09 2017 11:53 GMT
#2856
EG felt off, they were like demoralised before the game for some reason
#TLWIN TI7, TLDota BEST TL
Invictus
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Singapore2697 Posts
August 09 2017 16:31 GMT
#2857
Really liked this iteration of EG just a bunch of chill kids playing dota. Hope they would stick together but I wouldn't be surprised if they split, even if they are all on good terms cr1t just isn't the strongest drafter and as a team if you know every match you have to outplay your opponents hard to win cause of a bad draft it just sucks. EG was also playing bad, they just didn't seem cohesive at all
Lee Jaedong Fighting!
MotanuD
Profile Joined October 2012
Romania95 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-09 16:46:30
August 09 2017 16:46 GMT
#2858
EG has the same problems many all-star teams had:

- They lack a leader. None of their players have ever captained a team. 4 of them are around 20 and, while they have proven skills, they may not have neither the experience nor the authority required to lead. They may develop that in the future but right now they are no leaders. The 5th, Universe, has great experience but he's not the leader type. He's at his best when he has someone else calling plays.
- Both supports are playmakers. Cr1t and Zai work at their best when they can either roam or get some farm, pressure enemies, make plays and so on. As defensive supports/babysitters/position 6 they aren't that good so one of them will clearly be forced out of his comfort zone.

As such, it's no surprise Cr1t underperformed given the fact he had both to lead and play something he wasn't used to.

- Arteezy and Sumail seem to be at their best when playing the 1 position mid. As a safelane farmer Arteezy seems to be underwhelming at times (though he also had top quality moments) and rarely performs in key games. The lack of a proper 5 position players also doesn't help either of them.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
August 09 2017 16:48 GMT
#2859
Sounds like they need eg.bulba to save the day
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
yotsuna
Profile Joined June 2011
Hong Kong186 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-09 16:57:09
August 09 2017 16:56 GMT
#2860
Not an EG fan but god that was sad to see.

I hope they use this experience and stay together or at least one more go but If Crit does leave they should pick up Stan King (C9 coach) he captained Freedom to a good finish in qualifiers and helped EG at TI6, that is if PPD doesnt fancy it.
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