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+ Show Spoiler [retarded shit in response to acritter] +On March 19 2015 04:24 Acritter wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 02:59 Acritter wrote:On March 19 2015 02:58 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On March 19 2015 02:54 eieio wrote:On March 19 2015 02:54 kirsed wrote:
We're going too deep.
Nicki minaj vs Taylor Swift? nicki minaj on monster > t swizzle > average nicki minaj this is correct oh i've got a question: one of my most intelligent friends in college still loved linkin park and that aesthetic of "teenage angst" music, it accorded with some anger problems and mental issues he had. he claimed it was unfair to assume everyone should grow out of that kind of music just because it appeals most to teens, because it's still good music and valid emotive material for people who still think similarly. this is evidenced by the fact that many such people making the music are in their twenties and beyond, even though the primarily audience is probably teens. the question: is he correct or are you a dismissive asshole? That's actually a really interesting question that I'm going to think about. Not comfortable answering that immediately. All right. I feel prepared to answer now. Let's start with the reason we expect people to grow out of those things. It is not, I would argue, just because we've unfairly painted certain attitudes as "childish" and others as "mature," as we traditionally deal with things such as play versus work. It is rather because attitudes of "teenage angst," heavy with anger and self-dissatisfaction and resentment of others and society on a whole, are not suitable for living a happy life as an independent adult. We generally expect individuals to have found ways to resolve such issues by the time they leave their teenage years, because otherwise they won't be capable of fully "growing up." So, then. How do we handle the case of an individual who still has "teenage angst" far past their teen years? First, I can say that it is not an inherently moral problem. There is nothing about "teenage angst" which necessarily harms others, even if there are some correlations such as forcing others to listen to shitty music, and as such we have no right in castigating the aforementioned individual on a moral basis. It is, instead, a personal issue. As described above, "teenage angst" lies as an obstacle for living happily as an adult. An individual who still bears "teenage angst" as an adult will struggle through many problems that they would not otherwise experience. As such, such individuals are obligated for their own sake to try and handle their "teenage angst," and to not accept it as a terminus of their self-identity. said friend was an incredibly mature, empathetic, and responsible individual, but he's plagued with schizophrenia (which he's medicated for), anxiety (which he's medicated for), and a dark outlook on life and the world at large that will likely never go away. not to say it's not bad for him, but it's unrealistic to expect him to cast such issues off any time in the near future, despite him getting a job and playing the part of a responsible adult. So much for the individual's personal attitude. What attitudes, then, are we justified in having towards an adult with "teenage angst?" An obvious conclusion is that we cannot view them as a paragon, given that they lack in what I will shorthand as maturity. They may have stellar abilities in other fields that we may desire to emulate, but in so far as individual living is concerned, they are no good role model. We are, furthermore, justified in using them as a negative example: this is a lifestyle that is undesirable, and "teenage angst" is a deep cause of that undesirability. However, as mentioned above, I will repeat that we are not justified in moral criticism of the individual: they may be living badly, but they are not a bad person. That is the distinction that I will draw. i don't look to the vast majority of people as potential role models, so this doesn't resonate too deeply with me. In summary: I think that it's bad for you and you alone if you still listen to Linkin Park at that age. I won't deny that you have emotions that Linkin Park speaks to, but you should work extra-hard to try and address those emotions, because man oh man are they going to fuck you over. It's like if you don't know how to do your own laundry: sure, nobody's saying that you just imagine that you don't know how to do laundry, but you better get to work snappy-like to make sure you find out how. trust me, he's tried. some people have more difficult struggles than others, some seemingly impossible. for what it's worth, he's doing better than me overall at playing the part of a responsible adult, despite my greater hesitance to go back to listening to that kind of music. some people live admirably despite their demons, not because they're able to completely cast them off.
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they;re only gems because of the comparative value of the trash around them
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On March 19 2015 04:24 goody153 wrote:i'm a naga player who the fuck buys smoke for naga .. and you brought dagger are you ee ?
smoke and farm smoke and farm smoke and farm
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On March 19 2015 04:30 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 04:29 Plansix wrote:On March 19 2015 04:26 crms wrote:On March 19 2015 04:25 Plansix wrote:On March 19 2015 04:24 BluemoonSC wrote:On March 19 2015 04:24 Rocket-Bear wrote:
Literally 0 posts worth reading as well. That is quite the feat wow that's rude The truth hurts. I dunno, there have been like 4 or 5 gosi posts in those 1500 that are worth it. Everything else (including my own) can be tossed in the trash heap. Those are gems, but you need to dig through so much trash to get there, the value is almost worthless by the time you get to them. UNLESS YOU HAVE TL + AND THE AMAZING FILTER BUTTON! Or you can just you know search gosi open his profile check his post history then check the 4 diamonds bombs he dropped
this comment is funny cuz i just took a massive dump
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On March 19 2015 04:32 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 04:24 goody153 wrote:On March 19 2015 04:19 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
my build is pretty much ideal i'm a naga player who the fuck buys smoke for naga .. and you brought dagger are you ee ? smoke and farm smoke and farm smoke and farm + Show Spoiler +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ha63KU_zj-U
The fuck
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i'm very tempted to say that BU is doing super well and may possibly be a contender to Secret/eg (no c9 cause they are getting weaker) if only there wins didn't include a fucking pl pick.
On March 19 2015 04:36 Gosi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 04:30 goody153 wrote:On March 19 2015 04:29 Plansix wrote:On March 19 2015 04:26 crms wrote:On March 19 2015 04:25 Plansix wrote:On March 19 2015 04:24 BluemoonSC wrote:On March 19 2015 04:24 Rocket-Bear wrote:
Literally 0 posts worth reading as well. That is quite the feat wow that's rude The truth hurts. I dunno, there have been like 4 or 5 gosi posts in those 1500 that are worth it. Everything else (including my own) can be tossed in the trash heap. Those are gems, but you need to dig through so much trash to get there, the value is almost worthless by the time you get to them. UNLESS YOU HAVE TL + AND THE AMAZING FILTER BUTTON! Or you can just you know search gosi open his profile check his post history then check the 4 diamonds bombs he dropped this comment is funny cuz i just took a massive dump
i feel so sad now
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+ Show Spoiler [don't worry, not retarded] +On March 19 2015 04:31 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 04:24 Acritter wrote:On March 19 2015 02:59 Acritter wrote:On March 19 2015 02:58 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On March 19 2015 02:54 eieio wrote:On March 19 2015 02:54 kirsed wrote:
We're going too deep.
Nicki minaj vs Taylor Swift? nicki minaj on monster > t swizzle > average nicki minaj this is correct oh i've got a question: one of my most intelligent friends in college still loved linkin park and that aesthetic of "teenage angst" music, it accorded with some anger problems and mental issues he had. he claimed it was unfair to assume everyone should grow out of that kind of music just because it appeals most to teens, because it's still good music and valid emotive material for people who still think similarly. this is evidenced by the fact that many such people making the music are in their twenties and beyond, even though the primarily audience is probably teens. the question: is he correct or are you a dismissive asshole? That's actually a really interesting question that I'm going to think about. Not comfortable answering that immediately. All right. I feel prepared to answer now. Let's start with the reason we expect people to grow out of those things. It is not, I would argue, just because we've unfairly painted certain attitudes as "childish" and others as "mature," as we traditionally deal with things such as play versus work. It is rather because attitudes of "teenage angst," heavy with anger and self-dissatisfaction and resentment of others and society on a whole, are not suitable for living a happy life as an independent adult. We generally expect individuals to have found ways to resolve such issues by the time they leave their teenage years, because otherwise they won't be capable of fully "growing up." So, then. How do we handle the case of an individual who still has "teenage angst" far past their teen years? First, I can say that it is not an inherently moral problem. There is nothing about "teenage angst" which necessarily harms others, even if there are some correlations such as forcing others to listen to shitty music, and as such we have no right in castigating the aforementioned individual on a moral basis. It is, instead, a personal issue. As described above, "teenage angst" lies as an obstacle for living happily as an adult. An individual who still bears "teenage angst" as an adult will struggle through many problems that they would not otherwise experience. As such, such individuals are obligated for their own sake to try and handle their "teenage angst," and to not accept it as a terminus of their self-identity. said friend was an incredibly mature, empathetic, and responsible individual, but he's plagued with schizophrenia (which he's medicated for), anxiety (which he's medicated for), and a dark outlook on life and the world at large that will likely never go away. not to say it's not bad for him, but it's unrealistic to expect him to cast such issues off any time in the near future, despite him getting a job and playing the part of a responsible adult. Show nested quote +So much for the individual's personal attitude. What attitudes, then, are we justified in having towards an adult with "teenage angst?" An obvious conclusion is that we cannot view them as a paragon, given that they lack in what I will shorthand as maturity. They may have stellar abilities in other fields that we may desire to emulate, but in so far as individual living is concerned, they are no good role model. We are, furthermore, justified in using them as a negative example: this is a lifestyle that is undesirable, and "teenage angst" is a deep cause of that undesirability. However, as mentioned above, I will repeat that we are not justified in moral criticism of the individual: they may be living badly, but they are not a bad person. That is the distinction that I will draw. i don't look to the vast majority of people as potential role models, so this doesn't resonate too deeply with me. Show nested quote +In summary: I think that it's bad for you and you alone if you still listen to Linkin Park at that age. I won't deny that you have emotions that Linkin Park speaks to, but you should work extra-hard to try and address those emotions, because man oh man are they going to fuck you over. It's like if you don't know how to do your own laundry: sure, nobody's saying that you just imagine that you don't know how to do laundry, but you better get to work snappy-like to make sure you find out how. trust me, he's tried. some people have more difficult struggles than others, some seemingly impossible. for what it's worth, he's doing better than me overall at playing the part of a responsible adult, despite my greater hesitance to go back to listening to that kind of music. I know nothing about your friend, so I won't say anything about him in particular. I suspected that he had a natural problem with such things, and so as I mentioned, I won't call him a bad person. It's something that appears to be natively far more difficult for him for others, and so I will stand by my statement that it should be a focus of his. Without personal knowledge of his situation, I of course can't say whether it's even possible for him personally to handle it. There's always the potential for an exception to any rule. I was simply answering the question of the "teenage angst" alone. My answer was mostly aimed to hit at what connects surly manchildren and people like your friend, who I believe are in other respects in very different camps. The connection there, I believe, is that the manner of living is inherently unpleasant. The logical conclusion there is not that they should stop listening to Linkin Park, but rather that they should devote a greater amount of energy than most people to answering the "teenage angst" which makes them want to listen to Linkin Park (and, more pertinently, makes their lives less pleasant). If, on the other hand, he believes that his "teenage angst" inherently adds value to his life, then I would have to have that conversation with him personally. He might change my opinion on such matters.
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On March 19 2015 04:19 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
my build is pretty much ideal
Anyone suggesting mine isn't the best needs to gtfo
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im literally on the cusp of the 90s
i was so close to being a 89 kid if only my delivery doctor wasn't wasted that day
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if you were born in the 90s i just assume you're a little kid in diapers or some shit. I haven't been able to fix my perception of time as I get old.
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i thought 90s kids were kids born in the 80s?
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+ Show Spoiler [im so fucking retarded] +On March 19 2015 04:41 Acritter wrote:+ Show Spoiler [don't worry, not retarded] +On March 19 2015 04:31 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 04:24 Acritter wrote:On March 19 2015 02:59 Acritter wrote:On March 19 2015 02:58 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On March 19 2015 02:54 eieio wrote:On March 19 2015 02:54 kirsed wrote:
We're going too deep.
Nicki minaj vs Taylor Swift? nicki minaj on monster > t swizzle > average nicki minaj this is correct oh i've got a question: one of my most intelligent friends in college still loved linkin park and that aesthetic of "teenage angst" music, it accorded with some anger problems and mental issues he had. he claimed it was unfair to assume everyone should grow out of that kind of music just because it appeals most to teens, because it's still good music and valid emotive material for people who still think similarly. this is evidenced by the fact that many such people making the music are in their twenties and beyond, even though the primarily audience is probably teens. the question: is he correct or are you a dismissive asshole? That's actually a really interesting question that I'm going to think about. Not comfortable answering that immediately. All right. I feel prepared to answer now. Let's start with the reason we expect people to grow out of those things. It is not, I would argue, just because we've unfairly painted certain attitudes as "childish" and others as "mature," as we traditionally deal with things such as play versus work. It is rather because attitudes of "teenage angst," heavy with anger and self-dissatisfaction and resentment of others and society on a whole, are not suitable for living a happy life as an independent adult. We generally expect individuals to have found ways to resolve such issues by the time they leave their teenage years, because otherwise they won't be capable of fully "growing up." So, then. How do we handle the case of an individual who still has "teenage angst" far past their teen years? First, I can say that it is not an inherently moral problem. There is nothing about "teenage angst" which necessarily harms others, even if there are some correlations such as forcing others to listen to shitty music, and as such we have no right in castigating the aforementioned individual on a moral basis. It is, instead, a personal issue. As described above, "teenage angst" lies as an obstacle for living happily as an adult. An individual who still bears "teenage angst" as an adult will struggle through many problems that they would not otherwise experience. As such, such individuals are obligated for their own sake to try and handle their "teenage angst," and to not accept it as a terminus of their self-identity. said friend was an incredibly mature, empathetic, and responsible individual, but he's plagued with schizophrenia (which he's medicated for), anxiety (which he's medicated for), and a dark outlook on life and the world at large that will likely never go away. not to say it's not bad for him, but it's unrealistic to expect him to cast such issues off any time in the near future, despite him getting a job and playing the part of a responsible adult. Show nested quote +So much for the individual's personal attitude. What attitudes, then, are we justified in having towards an adult with "teenage angst?" An obvious conclusion is that we cannot view them as a paragon, given that they lack in what I will shorthand as maturity. They may have stellar abilities in other fields that we may desire to emulate, but in so far as individual living is concerned, they are no good role model. We are, furthermore, justified in using them as a negative example: this is a lifestyle that is undesirable, and "teenage angst" is a deep cause of that undesirability. However, as mentioned above, I will repeat that we are not justified in moral criticism of the individual: they may be living badly, but they are not a bad person. That is the distinction that I will draw. i don't look to the vast majority of people as potential role models, so this doesn't resonate too deeply with me. Show nested quote +In summary: I think that it's bad for you and you alone if you still listen to Linkin Park at that age. I won't deny that you have emotions that Linkin Park speaks to, but you should work extra-hard to try and address those emotions, because man oh man are they going to fuck you over. It's like if you don't know how to do your own laundry: sure, nobody's saying that you just imagine that you don't know how to do laundry, but you better get to work snappy-like to make sure you find out how. trust me, he's tried. some people have more difficult struggles than others, some seemingly impossible. for what it's worth, he's doing better than me overall at playing the part of a responsible adult, despite my greater hesitance to go back to listening to that kind of music. I know nothing about your friend, so I won't say anything about him in particular. I suspected that he had a natural problem with such things, and so as I mentioned, I won't call him a bad person. It's something that appears to be natively far more difficult for him for others, and so I will stand by my statement that it should be a focus of his. Without personal knowledge of his situation, I of course can't say whether it's even possible for him personally to handle it. There's always the potential for an exception to any rule. I was simply answering the question of the "teenage angst" alone. My answer was mostly aimed to hit at what connects surly manchildren and people like your friend, who I believe are in other respects in very different camps. The connection there, I believe, is that the manner of living is inherently unpleasant. The logical conclusion there is not that they should stop listening to Linkin Park, but rather that they should devote a greater amount of energy than most people to answering the "teenage angst" which makes them want to listen to Linkin Park (and, more pertinently, makes their lives less pleasant). If, on the other hand, he believes that his "teenage angst" inherently adds value to his life, then I would have to have that conversation with him personally. He might change my opinion on such matters. it's not about "adding value," its about filling a certain drive for release. not everything has to be about making one's life more pleasant; i'm not into the whole cult of productivity and positivity. to me, being human is whatever you want to be. i'm not one for virtue ethics personally, though i respect those who constantly strive in everything they do to stick by virtuous principles. and i don't think finding music that accords with certain negative perspectives and feelings exacerbates said negativity; in a lot of cases, it's a soothing/coping mechanism. i know in some dark parts of my life, listening to some sad music helped me become less sad, etc.
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On March 19 2015 04:45 Targe wrote:
i thought 90s kids were kids born in the 80s?
wot
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On March 19 2015 04:47 CorsairHero wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 04:45 Targe wrote:
i thought 90s kids were kids born in the 80s? wot
cos their childhood was in the 90s?
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On March 19 2015 04:49 Targe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 04:47 CorsairHero wrote:On March 19 2015 04:45 Targe wrote:
i thought 90s kids were kids born in the 80s? wot cos their childhood was in the 90s?
My teenage years were in the 90s, but I'm an 80s kid. It is mostly used to define what decade when you spend your pre-teen years. But there is no hard and fast rule.
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I've got to agree with Targe. 92 and I barely remember that decade.
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i wasnt even being serious with the only 90s kids its actually only isolated suburbanites with emotional and drug problems but thats not nearly as catchy
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