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HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-12 16:45:00
March 12 2018 16:44 GMT
#187541
On March 13 2018 01:40 Slomo wrote:
I think you vastly underestimate the power of machine learning for such specific tasks like this. Even if its worthless at 4k+ MMR. Then it'll only affect 90% of all matches that are below 4k MMR. Great system, totally not pay to win.

I think the cosmetic bullshit where some ward skins arent visible for a second after you place them, is already borderline unacceptable for Dota. But this is far worse.


u gotta chill bro, what is this tryhard talk with mmr numbers in 2018, sounds like something a harold 3 would say

if it pays for techies rework I'm all for it
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 12 2018 16:44 GMT
#187542
On March 13 2018 01:43 Sn0_Man wrote:
I'm looking forward to paying for it and then never having a battlecup stack haha xd

You could take on the greatest challenge of your dota life by trying to lead the disaster stack through battle cup.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-12 16:48:34
March 12 2018 16:45 GMT
#187543
Its horse armor all over again.
"Haha thats funny, its cheap, only noobs will buy it haha, dont worry man its not going to become the new standard for subtle p2w and of nobody will push that standard any further haha"

On March 13 2018 01:44 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2018 01:40 Slomo wrote:
I think you vastly underestimate the power of machine learning for such specific tasks like this. Even if its worthless at 4k+ MMR. Then it'll only affect 90% of all matches that are below 4k MMR. Great system, totally not pay to win.

I think the cosmetic bullshit where some ward skins arent visible for a second after you place them, is already borderline unacceptable for Dota. But this is far worse.


u gotta chill bro, what is this tryhard talk with mmr numbers in 2018, sounds like something a harold 3 would say

if it pays for techies rework I'm all for it

Fuck MMR. I want a game where I play on equal terms with the enemy. And I assume most people want that.
And most people are below 4k and their game will be affected the most.
This is something where I will show no mercy. If this shit stays in the game for more than two weeks I will have to uninstall and forget about Dota until its removed.
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 12 2018 16:47 GMT
#187544
Well made horse armor is pretty dope, IMO.

And all of these services are available through alt-tabling and looking at drafting/build/tips website.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
March 12 2018 16:47 GMT
#187545
are there even any incentives for battlecups?
is it literally just a tournament mode behind a paywall?
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-12 16:51:14
March 12 2018 16:50 GMT
#187546
On March 13 2018 01:45 Slomo wrote:
Its horse armor all over again.
"Haha thats funny, its cheap, only noobs will buy it haha, dont worry man its not going to become the new standard for subtle p2w and of nobody will push that standard any further haha"

Show nested quote +
On March 13 2018 01:44 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
On March 13 2018 01:40 Slomo wrote:
I think you vastly underestimate the power of machine learning for such specific tasks like this. Even if its worthless at 4k+ MMR. Then it'll only affect 90% of all matches that are below 4k MMR. Great system, totally not pay to win.

I think the cosmetic bullshit where some ward skins arent visible for a second after you place them, is already borderline unacceptable for Dota. But this is far worse.


u gotta chill bro, what is this tryhard talk with mmr numbers in 2018, sounds like something a harold 3 would say

if it pays for techies rework I'm all for it

Fuck MMR. I want a game where I play on equal terms with the enemy. And I assume most people want that.
And most people are below 4k and their game will be affected the most.
This is something where I will show no mercy. If this shit stays in the game for more than two weeks I will have to uninstall and forget about Dota until its removed.

thats a neat hot take but bye lol
there's actually much worse shit like programs that will tell u ur opopnents most picked in the last month so u can ban those heroes in draft etc. 3rd party but ur still playing against it
On March 13 2018 01:47 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
are there even any incentives for battlecups?
is it literally just a tournament mode behind a paywall?

u win hats otherwise yes
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Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
March 12 2018 16:51 GMT
#187547
Wtf is happening? Patch day?
passive quaranstream fan
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 12 2018 16:52 GMT
#187548
Battlecup always seemed like a great idea, but you need 4 other people to play. And if I have to get 4 other people together to do something, its gunna be a board game.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
March 12 2018 16:54 GMT
#187549
On March 13 2018 01:51 Artisreal wrote:
Wtf is happening? Patch day?

blog.dota2.com
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
Maverick_2009
Profile Joined December 2014
Somewhere2002 Posts
March 12 2018 17:11 GMT
#187550
idk if it's all that good/advantageous, a friend just tried it, he's in a game rn and they advised offlane wk safelane zeus i personally dont see it as being much much better than just following a TDL guide and hoping for the best
https://www.twitch.tv/deso_739
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
March 12 2018 17:15 GMT
#187551
On March 13 2018 02:11 2009 wrote:
idk if it's all that good/advantageous, a friend just tried it, he's in a game rn and they advised offlane wk safelane zeus i personally dont see it as being much much better than just following a TDL guide and hoping for the best

Well, the thing about machine learning is that while it might not be successful now, in the future it should be.

*shrug*
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
March 12 2018 17:15 GMT
#187552
It's the kind of thing that may help an absolute newb that has no idea what is going on.

If you have any understanding of the game the features should be no advantage at all, if these suggestion algorithms are anything like they have been in the past.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 12 2018 17:16 GMT
#187553
Safelane Zeus in ranked for no reason what so ever is the reason I stopped playing Dota 2. Where you sit and stare at the game, going through the events that could have lead to this person playing long enough to play ranked and still doing that.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-12 17:24:41
March 12 2018 17:23 GMT
#187554
it's like $40 a year if you subscribe for the 12 month, it's super cheap, i think it's fair priced honestly
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-12 17:27:55
March 12 2018 17:27 GMT
#187555
I do like the folks who think it will be a huge advantage, when its just help with for 1 of 5 members of a team. You are still in a pub match of the Dota 2. Valve cannot save you.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 12 2018 17:33 GMT
#187556
I feel like it's just going to recommend WK zeus every game cuz those heroes have like 58% winrate in noob brackets
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Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
March 12 2018 17:58 GMT
#187557
On March 13 2018 01:54 Slomo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2018 01:51 Artisreal wrote:
Wtf is happening? Patch day?

blog.dota2.com

Thanks. Though I'm actually not interested enough in playing Dota to read it at the moment.

We have like fifteen degrees Celsius out today. Merely a week ago it was minus twelve degrees! Crazy shift.
passive quaranstream fan
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
March 12 2018 18:08 GMT
#187558
"Back in my day we learned how to master a game through trial and error repeated thousands of times, not having to pay $4 a month to be given real-time tips on how to play."
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
March 12 2018 18:30 GMT
#187559
IDK guys. If you don't see the problem with giving Valve an inch in this matter. You give an inch now, they take it a mile further next time.
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 12 2018 18:45 GMT
#187560
On March 13 2018 03:30 Slomo wrote:
IDK guys. If you don't see the problem with giving Valve an inch in this matter. You give an inch now, they take it a mile further next time.

The slippery slope fallacy continues to be a fallacy.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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