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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
March 02 2015 20:17 GMT
#12761
bullshit everybody knows that siege tanks are stupid as fuck
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-02 20:18:40
March 02 2015 20:17 GMT
#12762
On March 03 2015 05:12 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 05:11 Comeh wrote:
On March 03 2015 05:05 Shaella wrote:
blizzard sucks at balance, the truth is sc:bw comes off as kinda a fluke

It was a fluke, but it was also quite a different team, wasn't it?

Yeah Browder and David Kim and whoever else is in the background weren't part of the original team, who were either moved to other games and departments or quit Blizzard.

But even then, the BW that people know about now a days was a result of years of map balancing in Korea and had little to do with Blizzard. The balance team had so little to do with that beyond just providing a frame work.

On March 03 2015 05:17 rabidch wrote:
bullshit everybody knows that siege tanks are stupid as fuck

Most boring unit in SC2 and BW. The first death ball, but it didn't move.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-02 20:21:31
March 02 2015 20:19 GMT
#12763
At least death balls in bw took skill to control :|
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32754 Posts
March 02 2015 20:20 GMT
#12764
On March 03 2015 05:17 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 05:12 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On March 03 2015 05:11 Comeh wrote:
On March 03 2015 05:05 Shaella wrote:
blizzard sucks at balance, the truth is sc:bw comes off as kinda a fluke

It was a fluke, but it was also quite a different team, wasn't it?

Yeah Browder and David Kim and whoever else is in the background weren't part of the original team, who were either moved to other games and departments or quit Blizzard.

But even then, the BW that people know about now a days was a result of years of map balancing in Korea and had little to do with Blizzard. The balance team had so little to do with that beyond just providing a frame work.

Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 05:17 rabidch wrote:
bullshit everybody knows that siege tanks are stupid as fuck

Most boring unit in SC2 and BW. The first death ball, but it didn't move.

I don't disagree with the balance statement, BW certainly had balance flaws and if it weren't for the pro scene in Korea who applied their efforts to create maps as balanced as possible (even if some were favoured for certain races at times) BW would have been pretty imbalanced.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
March 02 2015 20:21 GMT
#12765
can you still pick up sieged tanks with medivacs in lotv because that sounds hilarious and I will absolutely cheese people on ladder at release if it's still in the game
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 02 2015 20:23 GMT
#12766
On March 03 2015 05:21 eieio wrote:
can you still pick up sieged tanks with medivacs in lotv because that sounds hilarious and I will absolutely cheese people on ladder at release if it's still in the game

I don't think that comes to LotV, but god I want it so bad. It looks hilarious and drop micro is best micro.

Really I am sort of excited for LotV, it looks like fun. But apparently I have like low standards for something.
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32754 Posts
March 02 2015 20:25 GMT
#12767
As much as I dislike SC2 in its current state I will probably end up buying LotV because if I'm already at HotS why not.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-02 20:28:33
March 02 2015 20:28 GMT
#12768
Speaking of tanks,
BW siege tanks have some of the best sounds omg
both the hydraulic siege mode toggle sounds and both versions of the shooting sound although obviously the siege one is more memorable. Probably not terribly accurate or anything but so evocative even now.
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eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-02 20:31:43
March 02 2015 20:31 GMT
#12769
when I first got a mic I remember being home for a break and playing some BW with my sister watching and every time I sieged my tanks I'd say "siege" into the mic and then hit O really fast and pretend like the game could understand my voice and it totally tricked her lololol

so point is yeah that sound is evocative as hell
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-02 20:31:49
March 02 2015 20:31 GMT
#12770
Tanks are conceptually a much better unit when overkill is applied to their siege mode.
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32754 Posts
March 02 2015 20:33 GMT
#12771
SC2 aesthetically and audio-wise feels very tame and fluffed. Units when attacking had a lot more oomph and feel behind their attacks in BW. SC2 units are filled with all these spikes and crystals and shit when they were a lot more minimalistic and true to their basic design in BW.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-02 20:35:47
March 02 2015 20:34 GMT
#12772
On March 03 2015 05:31 Comeh wrote:
Tanks are conceptually a much better unit when overkill is applied to their siege mode.

Yes, that much is true. They were allowed to do crazy damage because it was used really inefficiently. But that was pretty much all of BW. Everything was terrible to control, so it did crazy shit.

In some ways its true for Dota as well.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
March 02 2015 20:37 GMT
#12773
haha guys i figured out why dota is bad haha
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eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
March 02 2015 20:39 GMT
#12774
I'm pretty sure every video game out there is full of idiots and assholes lol

but yeah league gets the chicks
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32754 Posts
March 02 2015 20:39 GMT
#12775
On March 03 2015 05:37 Comeh wrote:
haha guys i figured out why dota is bad haha https://twitter.com/DotACapitalist/status/572490698315976704

Has Capitalist been visiting Tumblr.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
March 02 2015 20:40 GMT
#12776
SORRY I AM INCAPABLE OF BEING NICE BECAUSE I HAVE NOT INTERACTED WITH A FEMALE FOR X+1 HOURS HAHA U R ALL IDIOTS FUCK OFF HAHA MID PLS
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 02 2015 20:40 GMT
#12777
why on earth would you even bother reading a tweet by capitalist
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 02 2015 20:41 GMT
#12778
On March 03 2015 05:39 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 05:37 Comeh wrote:
haha guys i figured out why dota is bad haha https://twitter.com/DotACapitalist/status/572490698315976704

Has Capitalist been visiting Tumblr.

I mean, he's not wrong, but thats not really the way to go about addressing the issue.

"Hey, guys. I think dota is filled with dudes and it might be making us all dumb. I think we need more girls to up our smarts"

Yeah............
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
March 02 2015 20:41 GMT
#12779
why would you even follow that guy hes the literal worst after greg
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eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-02 20:43:13
March 02 2015 20:42 GMT
#12780
I'm all for girls but that's definitely not in the top 50 reasons that dota has idiots

also NO WAY dota has less women than shooters
LiquidDota Staff
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