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eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-02 19:47:43
March 02 2015 19:47 GMT
#12741
I had a loft bed for a year in college and coming back to my room drunk was terrifying lol

I don't drink these days but something to consider :p


On March 03 2015 04:45 PassiveAce wrote:
one of my buddies traded a $100 tf2 hat for a ton of kol meat and lost it all to the money making game in like 2 hours

omg was he trying to use the martingale system that shits hilarious
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 02 2015 19:47 GMT
#12742
ah yes the mmg
also known as one of the better currency sinks ever concieved
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
March 02 2015 19:48 GMT
#12743
On March 03 2015 04:47 eieio wrote:
I had a loft bed for a year in college and coming back to my room drunk was terrifying lol

I don't drink these days but something to consider :p


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On March 03 2015 04:45 PassiveAce wrote:
one of my buddies traded a $100 tf2 hat for a ton of kol meat and lost it all to the money making game in like 2 hours

omg was he trying to use the martingale system that shits hilarious

I remember he told me that he had a system and i told him that hes fucking retarded
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
March 02 2015 19:49 GMT
#12744
I had the opportunity to have a loft but I sleepwalk all the time so no way
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
March 02 2015 19:49 GMT
#12745
martingale system says "bet 1000 meat, if u lose bet 2000 meat, if u lose bet 4000, etc"

idea being eventually you'll win and win back all your money + 1000 meat.

The hilarious part is that people justify it by saying that it's guaranteed to work if you have infinite meat. It's like, if you have infinite meat why are you trying to make more lmao
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32754 Posts
March 02 2015 19:50 GMT
#12746
One of the first online purchases I remember asking for was for a KoL monthly thing which gave you a familiar and something unique I think. Damn I miss all the inside jokes and the sense of achievement from collecting stuff in that game.
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-02 19:51:43
March 02 2015 19:51 GMT
#12747
On March 03 2015 04:49 eieio wrote:
martingale system says "bet 1000 meat, if u lose bet 2000 meat, if u lose bet 4000, etc"

idea being eventually you'll win and win back all your money + 1000 meat.

The hilarious part is that people justify it by saying that it's guaranteed to work if you have infinite meat. It's like, if you have infinite meat why are you trying to make more lmao

omg yea lmfao thats exactly it and i had to explain to him that its retarded
looooooooool
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-02 19:54:18
March 02 2015 19:52 GMT
#12748
ya you could buy a Mr. Accessory for $10 and trade it in for various items and familiars that were rotated each month. I think items were 1 Mr. A and familiars were 2 but I can't remember for sure.

I spent like 30 bucks I think to get the cymbal playing monkey (blood faced volleyball + whichever familiar gives you meat) and to sell one in order to get a snowcone tome when it was still cheap.

fucking snowcone tome never again

and yeah KoL had some of the consistently funniest writing of any game I've played. One of the multiplayer games where I spent a while exploring and reading everything and not being a competitive dick.


On March 03 2015 04:51 PassiveAce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 04:49 eieio wrote:
martingale system says "bet 1000 meat, if u lose bet 2000 meat, if u lose bet 4000, etc"

idea being eventually you'll win and win back all your money + 1000 meat.

The hilarious part is that people justify it by saying that it's guaranteed to work if you have infinite meat. It's like, if you have infinite meat why are you trying to make more lmao

omg yea lmfao thats exactly it and i had to explain to him that its retarded
looooooooool

rofl yeah that system was hella popular back in the day hahaha
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-02 19:58:58
March 02 2015 19:56 GMT
#12749
it's the unit design/balance.

I actually agree with this part in avilo's post (thought he economy too) the rest of his post is retarded tho

But whatever sc2 is a shell of a game and a faction of what bw was so whatever
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eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
March 02 2015 19:57 GMT
#12750
it wasn't remotely bad for an avilo post tbh
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-02 20:00:28
March 02 2015 19:58 GMT
#12751
its fine LotV is reworking everything to be even worse

At least blizzard realized that literally everything in the game sucked, its a good first step right. Too bad they needed to realize that in WoL, "fix" it in HotS, then actually figure it out now and properly fix it in LotV for the game to be a good game.

Also too bad that that whole process needed to be complete 4 years ago for the game to not suck. Its essentially too late now imo.

The hilarious part is that SC2 would still have been a truly successful game even with all the shitty design decisions if they just kept bnet 1.0. WC3 customs are literally more alive than sc2 customs atm.
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eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
March 02 2015 20:04 GMT
#12752
yeah the fact that they've waited this long to make massive changes is both absurd and frustrating

like HotS was already almost too late, most people I know myself included basically quit after that godawful ZvZ finals with BL just shooting broodlings at each other for like 10 minutes. idk I get that expecting a game as good as BW was kinda unreasonable but I'm still sad about SC2 D:

and yeah it's actually hard to believe how badly blizz bungled customs. like wtf.
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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
March 02 2015 20:05 GMT
#12753
blizzard sucks at balance, the truth is sc:bw comes off as kinda a fluke
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-02 20:07:28
March 02 2015 20:07 GMT
#12754
thats fine the community makes the maps that actually balance
its the design that matters. The core mechanics like macro mechanics, income, unit interaction, etc.
this from the pro-games perspective.

what really matters though is the playerbase which simply requires bnet 1.0 to sustain itself and grow, unfortunately that's missing too.
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
March 02 2015 20:08 GMT
#12755
guys u all play dota u shouldve realized by now that balance doesnt matter shit
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 02 2015 20:08 GMT
#12756
I really think no one can recreate the BW balance because its just requires you to ignore your game and let the community balance it through maps and other stuff. In this modern era of the internet, that's just not going to happen.
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
March 02 2015 20:08 GMT
#12757
holy shit bw was an unbalanced peice o shit
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32754 Posts
March 02 2015 20:08 GMT
#12758
BW was balanced heavily around maps if I remember, Blizzard basically stopped balance two years after release and took a hands-off approach in comparison to the Blizzard of today who nerf any strat which shows some promise in the right hands.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-02 20:15:00
March 02 2015 20:11 GMT
#12759
On March 03 2015 05:05 Shaella wrote:
blizzard sucks at balance, the truth is sc:bw comes off as kinda a fluke

It was a fluke, but it was also quite a different team, wasn't it?
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32754 Posts
March 02 2015 20:12 GMT
#12760
On March 03 2015 05:11 Comeh wrote:
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On March 03 2015 05:05 Shaella wrote:
blizzard sucks at balance, the truth is sc:bw comes off as kinda a fluke

It was a fluke, but it was also quite a different team, wasn't it?

Yeah Browder and David Kim and whoever else is in the background weren't part of the original team, who were either moved to other games and departments or quit Blizzard.
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