EPTOfficial 'what is Dota anymore' discussion - Page 622
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On February 28 2015 06:40 SKC wrote: It's the kind of thing that is obviously against the rules (unless they are terrible), and if it is against the rules, and there is a punishment prescribed in the rules, not using it because he is and idiot is not really a good excuse. Most rules and punishments have a level of discretion so the event runner can make a judgment on how harshly they want to punish the team/player. I am saying the fact that he is an idiot, rather than a malicious cheater, should be taken into account. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
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crms
United States11933 Posts
Rtz quite clearly had the active tournament stream up (or just chat if you believe that anyone on planet earth loads twitch and then clicks pop-out chat) and everyone is saying it's fine, he's just messing around. I'm just glad monkeys on the internet don't dictate law or justice because apparently allegations and suspicions = guilty before proven innocent, physical evidence = it's cool just messing around. :D~ I'm not saying RTZ should or shouldn't be banned, but I love reading the bullshit. :D | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
including the big secret/rtz fans. | ||
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CorsairHero
Canada9491 Posts
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Also, from my understanding and research, UG has a long history of being accused of cheating and bullshit pauses. That is the reason they got banned, because they finally got caught red handed. Its not mental gymnastics to see the nuance between the two. One team had a history of shady behavior and suspected cheating. The other team has a player well known for impulsive actions and lack of common sense, but is respected and has zero history of shady behavior. | ||
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crms
United States11933 Posts
On February 28 2015 06:48 Sn0_Man wrote: actually most people think rtz should be punished harder lol including the big secret/rtz fans. Yeah, I'm not advocating any sort of punishments I'm just enjoying the show. :D Although the Dota Pit statement that just came out is absolutely l-o-l. Had history of potentially malicious action my favorite part. | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On February 28 2015 06:47 crms wrote: I have secret flair, I like the team and RTZ a lot. It's just seeing everyone do mental gymnastics to justify RTZ behavior but in the same breathe being OK with UG being banned from multiple leagues is just hilarious dissonance. Unless I'm mistaken, UG has never been proven to cheat, only allegations and suspicions. The only rule they concretely broke is 'having a stream up' which accounts for any stream, not just the active tournament stream, since they couldn't prove which stream the UG player had open. Rtz quite clearly had the active tournament stream up (or just chat if you believe that anyone on planet earth loads twitch and then clicks pop-out chat) and everyone is saying it's fine, he's just messing around. I'm just glad monkeys on the internet don't dictate law or justice because apparently allegations and suspicions = guilty before proven innocent, physical evidence = it's cool just messing around. :D~ I'm not saying RTZ should or shouldn't be banned, but I love reading the bullshit. :D Pretty sure they proved which stream they had opent hrough extreme forensics | ||
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crms
United States11933 Posts
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Nixer
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CorsairHero
Canada9491 Posts
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
It's obvious he was just being stupid but it's also the sort of thing that setting a precedent of a harsh response is a good idea. Warnings are kinda meaningless but whathever, not like either response changes anything in the long run. These ruling issues just remind me of those amazing MLG SC2 rulesets where a player could be punished by not being able to build a certain unit for the next game. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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Spicy_Curry
United States10573 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On February 28 2015 07:11 Spicy_Curry wrote: Enemy gets a free rax of any lane. Ranged only, right? Melee would be if you punched a caster or something. | ||
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eieio
United States14512 Posts
On February 28 2015 05:07 Plansix wrote: I didn't know Harris Wittels died, thats super sad. I love Parks and Rec, its like the one happy, joyful show on the internet that is just funny. And Ben is the best nerd. yeah it's presumably from an overdose: he had a relatively widely known heroin problem D: addiction is super shitty and makes me sad BUT all indications are that Harris would hate people mourning him and would rather they laugh and make dick jokes or something SO HOLY SHIT ARTOOZY WTF HOW DUMB ARE YOU LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL | ||
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trifecta
United States6795 Posts
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