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eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
February 27 2015 22:23 GMT
#12441
On February 28 2015 07:23 trifecta wrote:
Puppey Pause 2: ez for rtz

this is a good post
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 27 2015 22:26 GMT
#12442
On February 28 2015 07:22 eieio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 05:07 Plansix wrote:
I didn't know Harris Wittels died, thats super sad. I love Parks and Rec, its like the one happy, joyful show on the internet that is just funny. And Ben is the best nerd.

yeah it's presumably from an overdose: he had a relatively widely known heroin problem D:

addiction is super shitty and makes me sad BUT all indications are that Harris would hate people mourning him and would rather they laugh and make dick jokes or something SO

Gold bless the man, we lost a couple of the good ones this week.
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Howie_Dewitt
Profile Joined March 2014
United States1416 Posts
February 27 2015 22:27 GMT
#12443
On February 28 2015 07:26 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 07:22 eieio wrote:
On February 28 2015 05:07 Plansix wrote:
I didn't know Harris Wittels died, thats super sad. I love Parks and Rec, its like the one happy, joyful show on the internet that is just funny. And Ben is the best nerd.

yeah it's presumably from an overdose: he had a relatively widely known heroin problem D:

addiction is super shitty and makes me sad BUT all indications are that Harris would hate people mourning him and would rather they laugh and make dick jokes or something SO

Gold bless the man, we lost a couple of the good ones this week.

Comedy gold?
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
February 27 2015 22:42 GMT
#12444
guys is there any modern show (still on the air, making episodes in the last 3-5 years) that uses a laugh track (fake or studio audience) that you enjoy? I seriously can't handle them anymore. The way sitcoms have advanced the laugh track is so off putting that I can't even finish an episode. The only time I can handle laugh tracks are on classic shows like Seinfeld because it was part of that era.

tl;dr is there any modern comedy that uses laugh tracks that is actually funny? I don't think so.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 27 2015 22:45 GMT
#12445
The IT Crowd is funny, but all the jokes are made unfunny by the laugh track. It is a show that would be better without it in every way.
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 22:48:58
February 27 2015 22:48 GMT
#12446
On February 28 2015 07:45 Plansix wrote:
The IT Crowd is funny, but all the jokes are made unfunny by the laugh track. It is a show that would be better without it in every way.

I haven't tried that one but that's kind of how i feel when I watch anything with laugh tracks. It also disrupts the flow of dialogue/joke telling because there are these awkward pause deliveries to account for the cackling. I like the more natural, free flowing dialogue where jokes just come quickly and you may miss some.

KILL ALL LAUGH TRACKS!
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
February 27 2015 22:48 GMT
#12447
On February 28 2015 06:52 Plansix wrote:
I guess that's acceptable. They could have fined him or something, but I guess the reddit drama is good enough.

Also, from my understanding and research, UG has a long history of being accused of cheating and bullshit pauses. That is the reason they got banned, because they finally got caught red handed. Its not mental gymnastics to see the nuance between the two. One team had a history of shady behavior and suspected cheating. The other team has a player well known for impulsive actions and lack of common sense, but is respected and has zero history of shady behavior.

what is this superior moba??
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 27 2015 22:49 GMT
#12448
I don't watch modern comedy I just watch M*A*S*H
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Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
February 27 2015 22:52 GMT
#12449
On February 28 2015 07:42 crms wrote:
guys is there any modern show (still on the air, making episodes in the last 3-5 years) that uses a laugh track (fake or studio audience) that you enjoy? I seriously can't handle them anymore. The way sitcoms have advanced the laugh track is so off putting that I can't even finish an episode. The only time I can handle laugh tracks are on classic shows like Seinfeld because it was part of that era.

tl;dr is there any modern comedy that uses laugh tracks that is actually funny? I don't think so.

I tune them out anymore. Big Bang Theory's is unbearable, but I was able to look past it for How I Met Your Mother.

Still, I don't really like them and it does turn me off, even just a little.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 22:53:35
February 27 2015 22:52 GMT
#12450
On February 28 2015 07:49 Sn0_Man wrote:
I don't watch modern comedy I just watch M*A*S*H

I saw every episode before I turned 20 because, well, its was on re-runs forever. I can't watch it again.

The laugh track isn't the only thing that makes Big Bang Theory's horrible.
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
February 27 2015 22:54 GMT
#12451
big bang theory is indeed the worst. It's also horrible being a 'nerd' and everyone asking you if you like/watch it, or recommending it to you. ~_~
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
February 27 2015 22:55 GMT
#12452
It kind of blows my mind that laugh tracks are still used in scripted comedy
i mean if a shows jokes have to be propped up by a laugh track then it probably shouldnt be on the air
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 22:57:37
February 27 2015 22:57 GMT
#12453
big bang theory is pretty hard to watch but the guy who plays sheldon is actually a really talented actor
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
February 27 2015 23:09 GMT
#12454
On February 28 2015 07:52 Jinxed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 07:42 crms wrote:
guys is there any modern show (still on the air, making episodes in the last 3-5 years) that uses a laugh track (fake or studio audience) that you enjoy? I seriously can't handle them anymore. The way sitcoms have advanced the laugh track is so off putting that I can't even finish an episode. The only time I can handle laugh tracks are on classic shows like Seinfeld because it was part of that era.

tl;dr is there any modern comedy that uses laugh tracks that is actually funny? I don't think so.

I tune them out anymore. Big Bang Theory's is unbearable, but I was able to look past it for How I Met Your Mother.

Still, I don't really like them and it does turn me off, even just a little.

thats cause himym was actually funny for the first 4 seasons
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dismiss
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
February 27 2015 23:11 GMT
#12455
On February 28 2015 06:52 Plansix wrote:
I guess that's acceptable. They could have fined him or something, but I guess the reddit drama is good enough.

Also, from my understanding and research, UG has a long history of being accused of cheating and bullshit pauses. That is the reason they got banned, because they finally got caught red handed. Its not mental gymnastics to see the nuance between the two. One team had a history of shady behavior and suspected cheating. The other team has a player well known for impulsive actions and lack of common sense, but is respected and has zero history of shady behavior.

Just to play devil's advocat here for a second. UG never actually gotten caught and "convicted" of doing anything, so really all this "oh but they might have maybe cheated possibly maybe before already" rhethoric is silly.
Clearly they don't want to dq a extremely popular team/player. But i guess a "long history" of "potentially malicious action" is now sound proof while they concoct, quite frankly bizarre, statements as "We do not believe that Artour viewed the stream video feed, only the stream chat. We believe this was an innocent lapse of judgement." to avoid sanctioning the Na posterchild.
It's quiet literally impossible for him to not look at the stream while chatting on twitch, assuming that he didn't access it on a phone that was set to chat only mode or via an irc client. And let's be real here, chances are 99.99% that he didn't use either of those options.
What people should take away from this is the fact that tournament organisers are still as hypocritical as they've always been and elect to act in a manner that's neither fair nor just, but rather in their best business interest. Now that's all well and good of course, unless you care about ESPORTS.
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makmeatt
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
2024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 23:15:10
February 27 2015 23:12 GMT
#12456
On February 28 2015 07:55 PassiveAce wrote:
It kind of blows my mind that laugh tracks are still used in scripted comedy
i mean if a shows jokes have to be propped up by a laugh track then it probably shouldnt be on the air

By the mighty power of psychology, if you hear someone else laughing, you have a higher chance of laughing yourself. It's one part conformity, one part positive feedback. Regardless, unless that sort of stuff annoys you (it seemingly does), you'll most likely connect it with positivity in the future, i.e. watch more.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 23:19:29
February 27 2015 23:18 GMT
#12457
On February 28 2015 07:48 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 07:45 Plansix wrote:
The IT Crowd is funny, but all the jokes are made unfunny by the laugh track. It is a show that would be better without it in every way.

I haven't tried that one but that's kind of how i feel when I watch anything with laugh tracks. It also disrupts the flow of dialogue/joke telling because there are these awkward pause deliveries to account for the cackling. I like the more natural, free flowing dialogue where jokes just come quickly and you may miss some.

KILL ALL LAUGH TRACKS!

The IT crowd is funny - its humor is independent of laugh tracks and would likely be better if they didnt have them but whatever

On February 28 2015 08:11 dismiss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 06:52 Plansix wrote:
I guess that's acceptable. They could have fined him or something, but I guess the reddit drama is good enough.

Also, from my understanding and research, UG has a long history of being accused of cheating and bullshit pauses. That is the reason they got banned, because they finally got caught red handed. Its not mental gymnastics to see the nuance between the two. One team had a history of shady behavior and suspected cheating. The other team has a player well known for impulsive actions and lack of common sense, but is respected and has zero history of shady behavior.

Just to play devil's advocat here for a second. UG never actually gotten caught and "convicted" of doing anything, so really all this "oh but they might have maybe cheated possibly maybe before already" rhethoric is silly.
Clearly they don't want to dq a extremely popular team/player. But i guess a "long history" of "potentially malicious action" is now sound proof while they concoct, quite frankly bizarre, statements as "We do not believe that Artour viewed the stream video feed, only the stream chat. We believe this was an innocent lapse of judgement." to avoid sanctioning the Na posterchild.
It's quiet literally impossible for him to not look at the stream while chatting on twitch, assuming that he didn't access it on a phone that was set to chat only mode or via an irc client. And let's be real here, chances are 99.99% that he didn't use either of those options.
What people should take away from this is the fact that tournament organisers are still as hypocritical as they've always been and elect to act in a manner that's neither fair nor just, but rather in their best business interest. Now that's all well and good of course, unless you care about ESPORTS.


I thought they matched up with what was h appnening on the stream he was watching with what was happening in game.
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-27 23:31:57
February 27 2015 23:25 GMT
#12458
On February 28 2015 08:18 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 07:48 crms wrote:
On February 28 2015 07:45 Plansix wrote:
The IT Crowd is funny, but all the jokes are made unfunny by the laugh track. It is a show that would be better without it in every way.

I haven't tried that one but that's kind of how i feel when I watch anything with laugh tracks. It also disrupts the flow of dialogue/joke telling because there are these awkward pause deliveries to account for the cackling. I like the more natural, free flowing dialogue where jokes just come quickly and you may miss some.

KILL ALL LAUGH TRACKS!

The IT crowd is funny - its humor is independent of laugh tracks and would likely be better if they didnt have them but whatever

Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 08:11 dismiss wrote:
On February 28 2015 06:52 Plansix wrote:
I guess that's acceptable. They could have fined him or something, but I guess the reddit drama is good enough.

Also, from my understanding and research, UG has a long history of being accused of cheating and bullshit pauses. That is the reason they got banned, because they finally got caught red handed. Its not mental gymnastics to see the nuance between the two. One team had a history of shady behavior and suspected cheating. The other team has a player well known for impulsive actions and lack of common sense, but is respected and has zero history of shady behavior.

Just to play devil's advocat here for a second. UG never actually gotten caught and "convicted" of doing anything, so really all this "oh but they might have maybe cheated possibly maybe before already" rhethoric is silly.
Clearly they don't want to dq a extremely popular team/player. But i guess a "long history" of "potentially malicious action" is now sound proof while they concoct, quite frankly bizarre, statements as "We do not believe that Artour viewed the stream video feed, only the stream chat. We believe this was an innocent lapse of judgement." to avoid sanctioning the Na posterchild.
It's quiet literally impossible for him to not look at the stream while chatting on twitch, assuming that he didn't access it on a phone that was set to chat only mode or via an irc client. And let's be real here, chances are 99.99% that he didn't use either of those options.
What people should take away from this is the fact that tournament organisers are still as hypocritical as they've always been and elect to act in a manner that's neither fair nor just, but rather in their best business interest. Now that's all well and good of course, unless you care about ESPORTS.


I thought they matched up with what was h appnening on the stream he was watching with what was happening in game.

nah, it's never been proven what stream UG was watching. they were DQ because the rules state no stream watching of any kind iirc. so they didn't really have to prove which game UG was watching. Ironically UG claimed they were only watching RTZ's stream lol. Can't make this shit up. :D~

Unless you think this is conclusive evidence lols.
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I think UG was probably watching the tournament stream but probablys and maybes don't mean much.

edit: this is the rule UG was nabbed for.

9.3 Players Prohibited from Watching Streams. Players playing within a game may not watch or listen to these streams at any time during their match
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
February 27 2015 23:36 GMT
#12459
w0w crms internet detective
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
February 27 2015 23:39 GMT
#12460
icy pls comeback in irc at a time when all the yuros aren't asleep.
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