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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
February 10 2015 20:57 GMT
#9061
On February 11 2015 05:53 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2015 05:51 BluemoonSC wrote:


can anyone validate destiny's claims @ around 9 min in about streaming money?

with all of the little donations i knew that it added up..but that much? jesus. my career choice was terrible.

It's true.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]




man, i made a bad career choice. that's how much i made last year in one month (give or take). fml.
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 10 2015 20:58 GMT
#9062
how long do you realistically think that a streamer can maintain a viewerbase like that though?

streaming is a short-term career, but it's very profitable.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
February 10 2015 20:58 GMT
#9063


best song EVER
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
February 10 2015 20:59 GMT
#9064
On February 11 2015 05:57 BluemoonSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2015 05:53 crms wrote:
On February 11 2015 05:51 BluemoonSC wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZDJUaFOlQc

can anyone validate destiny's claims @ around 9 min in about streaming money?

with all of the little donations i knew that it added up..but that much? jesus. my career choice was terrible.

It's true.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]




man, i made a bad career choice. that's how much i made last year in one month (give or take). fml.

yeah, that was for december and only through the 17th, who knows what the final month total was lel.

I think he leaked on a drunk stream that he made like 220k over an 8 month period of streaming in 2014. HEHEHE.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
February 10 2015 21:00 GMT
#9065
Forsen is also one of the most popular streamers out there lol. Pretty sure it's only Amaz that consistently pulls more viewers than him in topdeckmoba.
LiquidDota Staff
TL+ Member
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-10 21:01:00
February 10 2015 21:00 GMT
#9066
On February 11 2015 05:58 Sn0_Man wrote:
how long do you realistically think that a streamer can maintain a viewerbase like that though?

streaming is a short-term career, but it's very profitable.


even if i made that much for like 2 years, while i was starting my career i would be happy.

but i think it's too early to tell if their lifespan will be short or long.

On February 11 2015 05:59 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2015 05:57 BluemoonSC wrote:
On February 11 2015 05:53 crms wrote:
On February 11 2015 05:51 BluemoonSC wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZDJUaFOlQc

can anyone validate destiny's claims @ around 9 min in about streaming money?

with all of the little donations i knew that it added up..but that much? jesus. my career choice was terrible.

It's true.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]




man, i made a bad career choice. that's how much i made last year in one month (give or take). fml.

yeah, that was for december and only through the 17th, who knows what the final month total was lel.

I think he leaked on a drunk stream that he made like 220k over an 8 month period of streaming in 2014. HEHEHE.


hehehehehehehehe.... ha...heee.
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
February 10 2015 21:01 GMT
#9067
On February 11 2015 05:58 Sn0_Man wrote:
how long do you realistically think that a streamer can maintain a viewerbase like that though?

streaming is a short-term career, but it's very profitable.

this is really important. even in twitch's short lifespan we've seen a revolving door of top streamers. I'd say streaming is a lot like stripping. highly lucrative but you can't do it forever, so cash in, save/invest/grow and move on when your time is up. If these streams try to live a 300k/yr lifestyle, I think they'd be in big trouble in a couple of years. If they save and invest properly, they could be more or less setup for life.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
dismiss
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
February 10 2015 21:01 GMT
#9068
On February 11 2015 05:54 Crusnik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2015 05:50 dismiss wrote:
So after intensive IRC polling has proven inconclusive solving one of the great questions of our time is up to LDOTGD.
Do you prefer this or this song?



Can I replace the first with the Alison Krauss version?

Don't know that version, but it'd probably defeat the purpose of this question, so no.
Failure to improve posting standards will result in a lengthy ban. I <crms_> !dumb <GeoffAnderson> crmsdota <crms_> damnit
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 10 2015 21:02 GMT
#9069
okay well it's also hard as fuck to build ur stream etc but thats beside the point.
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
February 10 2015 21:02 GMT
#9070
On February 11 2015 06:00 eieio wrote:
Forsen is also one of the most popular streamers out there lol. Pretty sure it's only Amaz that consistently pulls more viewers than him in topdeckmoba.

dig around and find out how much datguylirik makes, it will make your head explode. I think hes the #1 twitch guy overall and has a healthy youtube channel as well.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
February 10 2015 21:02 GMT
#9071
whats ur favorite tokio hotel song mine is probably jung und nicht mehr jugendfrei
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
February 10 2015 21:03 GMT
#9072
if you look at summit1g who's like a top 5 csgo streamer he gets an average of 175 subs a day
that's $437.5 a day just from subs
and then you count all the donations he easily makes like $650+ a day, and that's just an average day
when the kids go nuts and do some subtrain/donation train i can easily see a streamer breaking $1500+ a day ez

granted we don't see this as much with dota 2 cause for some reason our streaming community doesn't conform to the rest of twitch
which i'm actually happy about, but there's also less consistent streamers.
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
February 10 2015 21:04 GMT
#9073
On February 11 2015 06:02 Sn0_Man wrote:
okay well it's also hard as fuck to build ur stream etc but thats beside the point.

I just mean you can't take literally one of the top streamers out there and be like omg why didn't I stream forsen so rich~

without looking at the thousands of other people that have tried exactly that and failed lol

It's just like wondering why you didn't become a pro-gamer because you could win TI, or didn't start a startup because you coulda been instagram or whatever
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TL+ Member
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 10 2015 21:06 GMT
#9074
People also need to understand that when you are a streamer in the US, you have to pay for your own healthcare and your own taxes. Of course at 20K, you’re doing fine, but for most streamers is not that much and it’s a very unstable career. At any point your viewers could just pack up and move on.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
February 10 2015 21:06 GMT
#9075
On February 11 2015 06:02 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2015 06:00 eieio wrote:
Forsen is also one of the most popular streamers out there lol. Pretty sure it's only Amaz that consistently pulls more viewers than him in topdeckmoba.

dig around and find out how much datguylirik makes, it will make your head explode. I think hes the #1 twitch guy overall and has a healthy youtube channel as well.

oh yeah I mean when it comes to topdeckmoba, I know that in some other games people make (even more) absurd amounts of money

I just see a problem with looking at the top 0.1% of streamers or whatever and seeing that as an anything close to reasonable approximation of how much money most streamers make lol
LiquidDota Staff
TL+ Member
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 10 2015 21:06 GMT
#9076
ur wayyyyy low on summit lol. I'd be shocked if he had a single streaming day under $1K donations in the past 6 months He also streams 7 days a week. Probably over 350 days a year.

dota's a shitty ass game to stream btw for a variety of reasons.
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eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
February 10 2015 21:08 GMT
#9077
seriously though why does dota have so much less of a streaming culture than like every other game out there

like obviously league is more popular in general but on average it seems like there are *way* more decent league streams on at any given time than dota, well beyond the fact that the game is just more popular
LiquidDota Staff
TL+ Member
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
February 10 2015 21:09 GMT
#9078
On February 11 2015 06:04 eieio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2015 06:02 Sn0_Man wrote:
okay well it's also hard as fuck to build ur stream etc but thats beside the point.

I just mean you can't take literally one of the top streamers out there and be like omg why didn't I stream forsen so rich~

without looking at the thousands of other people that have tried exactly that and failed lol

It's just like wondering why you didn't become a pro-gamer because you could win TI, or didn't start a startup because you coulda been instagram or whatever


you just look back and say, hindsight is 20/20. no one could have known it would be this lucrative.

personally, i was streaming when xsplit was in beta, around the time that twitch was launched, so i can safely say if i had built my stream starting from around then, who knows.

i'm not saying i would be popular like the top streamers, all i can say is that i was there and had the chance but though "that's just a pipe-dream" so i didn't take gaming or streaming very seriously.

now im just an average gamer wishing i could skip work to play games all day XD
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
February 10 2015 21:09 GMT
#9079
forsen is a legit ass dude tho
remember forsen montage is great
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
February 10 2015 21:10 GMT
#9080
On February 11 2015 06:04 eieio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2015 06:02 Sn0_Man wrote:
okay well it's also hard as fuck to build ur stream etc but thats beside the point.

I just mean you can't take literally one of the top streamers out there and be like omg why didn't I stream forsen so rich~

without looking at the thousands of other people that have tried exactly that and failed lol

It's just like wondering why you didn't become a pro-gamer because you could win TI, or didn't start a startup because you coulda been instagram or whatever

well this all started with destiny speaking about relatively stable streamers. he specifically referenced maximusblack, who is a 500-1000 viewer streamer and is rumored to be in the ~200k/yr range. Of course black is still on the higher echelon of twitch streamers overall even if hes not Trump/Forsen/Lirik/Kripp level, but it still highlights you can make serious money even if you aren't a top 10 streamer.

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