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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-30 17:26:49
June 30 2015 17:23 GMT
#49041
That's why there is this thing called comparative negligence. They compare who is at fault and find out who is over 50% negligent. If the Defendant is over 50%, they have to pay damages. They then calulate what the damages would be for 100% at fault using the systems created in the legal system and trim it down based on what the jury decided.

That's how lawsuits work when both sides did stupid things. Its just that McDonalds was more stupid due to the numerous complaints and full knowledge that they were serving 200 degree coffee.
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
June 30 2015 17:24 GMT
#49042
On July 01 2015 02:23 Plansix wrote:
That's why there is this this call comparative negligence. They compare who is at fault and find out who is over 50% negligent. If the Defendant is over 50%, they have to pay damages. They then calulate what the damages would be for 100% at fault using the systems created in the legal system and trim it down based on what the jury decided.

That's how lawsuits work when both sides did stupid things. Its just that McDonalds was more stupid due to the numerous complaints and full knowledge that they were serving 200 degree coffee.

This might be a stupid question, but are you a lawyer/judge? You seem to know a lot about the courtroom.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 30 2015 17:26 GMT
#49043
On July 01 2015 02:24 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2015 02:23 Plansix wrote:
That's why there is this this call comparative negligence. They compare who is at fault and find out who is over 50% negligent. If the Defendant is over 50%, they have to pay damages. They then calulate what the damages would be for 100% at fault using the systems created in the legal system and trim it down based on what the jury decided.

That's how lawsuits work when both sides did stupid things. Its just that McDonalds was more stupid due to the numerous complaints and full knowledge that they were serving 200 degree coffee.

This might be a stupid question, but are you a lawyer/judge? You seem to know a lot about the courtroom.

LOL I'm a paralegal, I work in a law firm. I manage like 5 attorney's case loads.

I would pay money to talk to the Judge who posts on Dota forums. Hell any gaming forum really.
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Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
June 30 2015 17:31 GMT
#49044
Never heard of Judge Baggage? He's the law dude
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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
June 30 2015 17:32 GMT
#49045
On July 01 2015 02:18 andyrau wrote:
idk what to think about the entire case tbh

that lady should not have put that cup in her lap in the first place

nobody needs a sign on a hot drink to know that the drink is hot, and moreover, nobody is going to read that new 'WARNING: HOT' sign, have a sudden epiphany and realize the drink is actually hot

but then again the burns were pretty severe, just an unfortunate case that didn't really need a ruling


ya i mean come on, we've all put our cup of coffee down when we know the risk of spilling it is moderate..but we never expect it to cause 3rd degree burns requiring skin grafts bc it doesn't brew that hot.
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
June 30 2015 17:36 GMT
#49046
i mean im sure she had a legitimate case, she was only suing for recompense anyways.

it's just this thing should have never happened, and the new warnings don't really change shit. the only decent thing to come out of all this is that all companies serving coffee should hand it to their customers at 160 or something.

kinda reminds me of people that eat fish fillets at restaurant and blame the establishment for swallowing a bone
'my fish steak should not have had bones in it!'
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-30 17:43:22
June 30 2015 17:39 GMT
#49047
The braking issue in the case was the McDonalds had received complaints for nearly 10 years about the temperature of their coffee and never changed the system. There were reports of people receiving burns that required up to $5000 in medical expenses to treat. McDonalds refused to settle and their defense was that the complaints were insufficient for them to evaluate their practices. They literally testified to that on the stand and claimed the "food burns people" as a defense to 10 years of complaints.

The jury raked them over the coals and awarded the Plaintiff for 2.7 million, which was like 2 days of coffee sales for McDonalds.

On July 01 2015 02:36 andyrau wrote:
i mean im sure she had a legitimate case, she was only suing for recompense anyways.

it's just this thing should have never happened, and the new warnings don't really change shit. the only decent thing to come out of all this is that all companies serving coffee should hand it to their customers at 160 or something.

kinda reminds me of people that eat fish fillets at restaurant and blame the establishment for swallowing a bone
'my fish steak should not have had bones in it!'

That was also a law suit in MA and was ruled to be acceptable because it was not foreign to the chowder.

http://www.fastcase.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Webster-v.-Blue-Ship-Tea-Room-Inc.-347-Mass.-421-198-N.E.2d-309-Mass.-1964.pdf

Its one of the most famous cases in law because the Judge of the Supreme Court of MA including his family recipe for fish chowder and explained that removing the bones would ruin the meal.
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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
June 30 2015 17:40 GMT
#49048
McD coffee is better than Timmy's and that's sad
© Current year.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-30 17:49:45
June 30 2015 17:41 GMT
#49049
On July 01 2015 02:40 CorsairHero wrote:
McD coffee is better than Timmy's and that's sad

Significantly better.
Timmy's has decent iced capps and breakfast sandwiches though.
They also have ice cream.
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
June 30 2015 17:56 GMT
#49050
Tim Horton's may be the icon of Canada but their coffee is like drinking mud filtered with toilet paper. McDonalds has far better coffee because for one it actually tastes like they used real coffee beans.
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-30 17:58:15
June 30 2015 17:57 GMT
#49051
Timbits though... truly why I frequent Timmy's. Easily the most shareable snack/food you can buy for a road trip, because if you pass the box around a sufficiently large amount of people(4~5) enough times(3~4), you're guaranteed to be asked when you will next get another box.
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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-30 17:58:29
June 30 2015 17:58 GMT
#49052
On July 01 2015 02:36 andyrau wrote:
i mean im sure she had a legitimate case, she was only suing for recompense anyways.

it's just this thing should have never happened, and the new warnings don't really change shit. the only decent thing to come out of all this is that all companies serving coffee should hand it to their customers at 160 or something.

kinda reminds me of people that eat fish fillets at restaurant and blame the establishment for swallowing a bone
'my fish steak should not have had bones in it!'


i think that its a close comparison but not quite. only because its impossible to get all of the bones and whatnot..but you don't have to serve your coffee at a million degrees.
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Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2837 Posts
June 30 2015 18:06 GMT
#49053
Given the choice between timmys and a keurig I choose water.

I mean keurigs are better than tims, but they're still awful yet everyone seems to have/use them.
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
June 30 2015 18:08 GMT
#49054
nice to see other people who find their coffee awful
© Current year.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
June 30 2015 18:09 GMT
#49055
On July 01 2015 03:08 CorsairHero wrote:
nice to see other people who find their coffee awful

I think that most Canadians I knew drank from Timmy's because:
1. it's easier to find one than a Starbuck's
2. it's a "Canadian" Company
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
June 30 2015 18:13 GMT
#49056
I remember the Conservatives made it a big deal they got Timmies back from the Americans to make it a big CANADA CANADA CANADA WOO event even though no one cared for their products. Now I wonder what I should do for Canada Day tomorrow.
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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
June 30 2015 18:16 GMT
#49057
i think the only canadian thing they did was sponsor hockey
© Current year.
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
June 30 2015 18:17 GMT
#49058
so how do you guys celebrate canada day anyways

retail chain sales, barbeques, parades, fireworks, etc?
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-30 18:18:58
June 30 2015 18:18 GMT
#49059
i was in stratford ontario for canada day a few years ago and it was pretty fun. big parade, lots of colors, lots of music. good times
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-30 18:18:59
June 30 2015 18:18 GMT
#49060
Fireworks and the day off.
Some cities have parades.
It's a little awful tomorrow where I live to have a bbq, and most big retailers are closed tomorrow IIRC.

On July 01 2015 03:18 PassiveAce wrote:
i was in stratford for canada day a few years ago and it was pretty fun. big parade, lots of colors, lots of music. good times


Did you watch any plays though?
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