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You need an SSD for each OS system and an SSD for your games so you end up using 8 SATA ports on your computer, then your SSDs aren't fast enough so you put them on .m2 and PCI
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also skylake isn't actually arriving until at least next year since the desktop broadwells are announced but nowhere to be seen and intel isn't stupid enough to put out another generation within 6 months of broadwell
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On June 30 2015 02:33 andyrau wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2015 01:41 dismiss wrote:On June 30 2015 01:10 ahswtini wrote:
so basically pc hardware advances are slowing? so now's a good time to pick up a high end computer? A good time would be this September. Intel will release its new generation of cpus. Generally I'd say buy for the moment, but it's not a long wait and skylake will have a lot of actually useful/potentially relevant consumer features that currently are limited to the enthusiast platform. It always comes with a new socket, so you can't upgrade from a mobo you could currently buy. The big problem apart from node shrinkage becoming harder and harder to accomplish is the fact that there's basically a monopoly in both the cpu and gpu market since amd isn't capable to compete at anything but the entry level in the consumer space. I'd bet you loads of money that intel could easily produce a significantly better cpu right now, but there's really no reason to. So they just stick to their 5-10% IPC gain per new release cycle. well skylake is still the same broadwell architecture iirc on paper the dieshrink should net you ~10-20% performance for same wattage and processor size, so you can decide if you want to wait & shell out extra $ on the same tangent from what I've experienced gaming laptops are the stupidest things you're paying $X amount for a gtx980m when it performs marginally worse than a gtx780 i know it's stupid to compare mobile chips to desktop ones, but if you're using the thing as a desktop replacement, the chips are underclocked and have a low thermal ceiling. I'd rather buy a pc with parts from last year than a new gaming laptop, and save up for an chromebook/ultrabook/macbook air if you really want computing on the go
well when i was consistently travelling between england and the netherlands several times a year a desktop just wasnt possible
laptop was the only choice
it depends on your situation tbh
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On June 30 2015 02:30 Targe wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2015 02:28 CorsairHero wrote:On June 30 2015 02:22 IntoTheheart wrote:
Are SSDs even 512gb yet? I don't keep up with it but you definitely make an excellent point. its about 50-60 cents a GB targe showing how baller he is had it like 2 years now bby
hey i have my 64 gb ssd that cost me like 120 bucks 4 years ago
i thought i was the shit
most economical way to go is to use your SSD for the OS and core apps and then get a fast HDD and for your games on the first part of the drive and media/misc after. If you got dough, you get a SSD with enough capacity to hold your games as well
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The real solution is to have built computers everywhere around the world
then carry a pair of 980TIs in your luggage
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On June 30 2015 02:37 CorsairHero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2015 02:30 Targe wrote:On June 30 2015 02:28 CorsairHero wrote:On June 30 2015 02:22 IntoTheheart wrote:
Are SSDs even 512gb yet? I don't keep up with it but you definitely make an excellent point. its about 50-60 cents a GB targe showing how baller he is had it like 2 years now bby hey i have my 64 gb ssd that cost me like 120 bucks 4 years ago i thought i was the shit most economical way to go is to use your SSD for the OS and core apps and then get a fast HDD and for your games on the first part of the drive and media/misc after. If you got dough, you get a SSD with enough capacity to hold your games as well
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thats my build
On June 30 2015 02:38 Kupon3ss wrote:
The real solution is to have built computers everywhere around the world
then carry a pair of 980TIs in your luggage
im not rich yo
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On June 30 2015 02:33 andyrau wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2015 01:41 dismiss wrote:On June 30 2015 01:10 ahswtini wrote:
so basically pc hardware advances are slowing? so now's a good time to pick up a high end computer? A good time would be this September. Intel will release its new generation of cpus. Generally I'd say buy for the moment, but it's not a long wait and skylake will have a lot of actually useful/potentially relevant consumer features that currently are limited to the enthusiast platform. It always comes with a new socket, so you can't upgrade from a mobo you could currently buy. The big problem apart from node shrinkage becoming harder and harder to accomplish is the fact that there's basically a monopoly in both the cpu and gpu market since amd isn't capable to compete at anything but the entry level in the consumer space. I'd bet you loads of money that intel could easily produce a significantly better cpu right now, but there's really no reason to. So they just stick to their 5-10% IPC gain per new release cycle. well skylake is still the same broadwell architecture iirc on paper the dieshrink should net you ~10-20% performance for same wattage and processor size, so you can decide if you want to wait & shell out extra $ on the same tangent from what I've experienced gaming laptops are the stupidest things you're paying $X amount for a gtx980m when it performs marginally worse than a gtx780 i know it's stupid to compare mobile chips to desktop ones, but if you're using the thing as a desktop replacement, the chips are underclocked and have a low thermal ceiling. I'd rather buy a pc with parts from last year than a new gaming laptop, and save up for an chromebook/ultrabook/macbook air if you really want computing on the go
a desktop is impractical for most college students, that's why i went with a gaming laptop
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On June 30 2015 02:35 Kupon3ss wrote:
also skylake isn't actually arriving until at least next year since the desktop broadwells are announced but nowhere to be seen and intel isn't stupid enough to put out another generation within 6 months of broadwell
i think they're releasing the mobile processors this year, it's been approx a year since broadwell mobile chips were released too. but yea they're holding off on desktop versions until next year
On June 30 2015 02:35 Targe wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2015 02:33 andyrau wrote:On June 30 2015 01:41 dismiss wrote:On June 30 2015 01:10 ahswtini wrote:
so basically pc hardware advances are slowing? so now's a good time to pick up a high end computer? A good time would be this September. Intel will release its new generation of cpus. Generally I'd say buy for the moment, but it's not a long wait and skylake will have a lot of actually useful/potentially relevant consumer features that currently are limited to the enthusiast platform. It always comes with a new socket, so you can't upgrade from a mobo you could currently buy. The big problem apart from node shrinkage becoming harder and harder to accomplish is the fact that there's basically a monopoly in both the cpu and gpu market since amd isn't capable to compete at anything but the entry level in the consumer space. I'd bet you loads of money that intel could easily produce a significantly better cpu right now, but there's really no reason to. So they just stick to their 5-10% IPC gain per new release cycle. well skylake is still the same broadwell architecture iirc on paper the dieshrink should net you ~10-20% performance for same wattage and processor size, so you can decide if you want to wait & shell out extra $ on the same tangent from what I've experienced gaming laptops are the stupidest things you're paying $X amount for a gtx980m when it performs marginally worse than a gtx780 i know it's stupid to compare mobile chips to desktop ones, but if you're using the thing as a desktop replacement, the chips are underclocked and have a low thermal ceiling. I'd rather buy a pc with parts from last year than a new gaming laptop, and save up for an chromebook/ultrabook/macbook air if you really want computing on the go well when i was consistently travelling between england and the netherlands several times a year a desktop just wasnt possible laptop was the only choice it depends on your situation tbh
yea i realize this and i did the same during uni
i didn't even buy an actual 'gaming' laptop and i still feel like i wasted money
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On June 30 2015 02:42 tehh4ck3r wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2015 02:33 andyrau wrote:On June 30 2015 01:41 dismiss wrote:On June 30 2015 01:10 ahswtini wrote:
so basically pc hardware advances are slowing? so now's a good time to pick up a high end computer? A good time would be this September. Intel will release its new generation of cpus. Generally I'd say buy for the moment, but it's not a long wait and skylake will have a lot of actually useful/potentially relevant consumer features that currently are limited to the enthusiast platform. It always comes with a new socket, so you can't upgrade from a mobo you could currently buy. The big problem apart from node shrinkage becoming harder and harder to accomplish is the fact that there's basically a monopoly in both the cpu and gpu market since amd isn't capable to compete at anything but the entry level in the consumer space. I'd bet you loads of money that intel could easily produce a significantly better cpu right now, but there's really no reason to. So they just stick to their 5-10% IPC gain per new release cycle. well skylake is still the same broadwell architecture iirc on paper the dieshrink should net you ~10-20% performance for same wattage and processor size, so you can decide if you want to wait & shell out extra $ on the same tangent from what I've experienced gaming laptops are the stupidest things you're paying $X amount for a gtx980m when it performs marginally worse than a gtx780 i know it's stupid to compare mobile chips to desktop ones, but if you're using the thing as a desktop replacement, the chips are underclocked and have a low thermal ceiling. I'd rather buy a pc with parts from last year than a new gaming laptop, and save up for an chromebook/ultrabook/macbook air if you really want computing on the go a desktop is impractical for most college students, that's why i went with a gaming laptop
depends if you're going to school abroad
there were a ton of dorks in comp sci that would play superiormoba near the entrance to the university and ya... no comment lol
if you were doing CPU intensive work, we would just RDP to our home or school server to compile or run simulations. That way it saves you from having to carry a brick around
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I was tempted this summer to build my own gaming rig, but then realized a painful reality:
even though I live with my parents, I'm still away from the house way too frequently to make any use of a decent rig.
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On June 30 2015 02:47 andyrau wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2015 02:35 Kupon3ss wrote:
also skylake isn't actually arriving until at least next year since the desktop broadwells are announced but nowhere to be seen and intel isn't stupid enough to put out another generation within 6 months of broadwell i think they're releasing the mobile processors this year, it's been approx a year since broadwell mobile chips were released too. but yea they're holding off on desktop versions until next year Show nested quote +On June 30 2015 02:35 Targe wrote:On June 30 2015 02:33 andyrau wrote:On June 30 2015 01:41 dismiss wrote:On June 30 2015 01:10 ahswtini wrote:
so basically pc hardware advances are slowing? so now's a good time to pick up a high end computer? A good time would be this September. Intel will release its new generation of cpus. Generally I'd say buy for the moment, but it's not a long wait and skylake will have a lot of actually useful/potentially relevant consumer features that currently are limited to the enthusiast platform. It always comes with a new socket, so you can't upgrade from a mobo you could currently buy. The big problem apart from node shrinkage becoming harder and harder to accomplish is the fact that there's basically a monopoly in both the cpu and gpu market since amd isn't capable to compete at anything but the entry level in the consumer space. I'd bet you loads of money that intel could easily produce a significantly better cpu right now, but there's really no reason to. So they just stick to their 5-10% IPC gain per new release cycle. well skylake is still the same broadwell architecture iirc on paper the dieshrink should net you ~10-20% performance for same wattage and processor size, so you can decide if you want to wait & shell out extra $ on the same tangent from what I've experienced gaming laptops are the stupidest things you're paying $X amount for a gtx980m when it performs marginally worse than a gtx780 i know it's stupid to compare mobile chips to desktop ones, but if you're using the thing as a desktop replacement, the chips are underclocked and have a low thermal ceiling. I'd rather buy a pc with parts from last year than a new gaming laptop, and save up for an chromebook/ultrabook/macbook air if you really want computing on the go well when i was consistently travelling between england and the netherlands several times a year a desktop just wasnt possible laptop was the only choice it depends on your situation tbh yea i realize this and i did the same during uni i didn't even buy an actual 'gaming' laptop and i still feel like i wasted money
yeah now im at uni and have somewhere to stay in the uk all year i got a kupon3ss approved desktop moba machine
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It's nice being a student who can still live at home. Desktops ftw.
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On June 30 2015 02:49 TheEmulator wrote:
It's nice being a student who can still live at home. Desktops ftw.
if i had a driver's licence i could do this but i think id still rather be living away from home
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On June 30 2015 02:51 Targe wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2015 02:49 TheEmulator wrote:
It's nice being a student who can still live at home. Desktops ftw. if i had a driver's licence i could do this but i think id still rather be living away from home
Why don't you have a driver's licence?
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On June 30 2015 02:51 Targe wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2015 02:49 TheEmulator wrote:
It's nice being a student who can still live at home. Desktops ftw. if i had a driver's licence i could do this but i think id still rather be living away from home
I actually do have a license and it's still not worth it. I start school early-ish in the day, and go back home around dinner. From then on, it's just a few hours until I need to sleep.
On weekends, I wake up late and go to campus to get work done or to chill. My entire social life is also pretty far from my house, so it's not actually that feasible there. Having a license is nice because I can drive, but I don't think that it's as convenient as it sounds.
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I drive less than 100 miles in the average month
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On June 30 2015 02:53 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2015 02:51 Targe wrote:On June 30 2015 02:49 TheEmulator wrote:
It's nice being a student who can still live at home. Desktops ftw. if i had a driver's licence i could do this but i think id still rather be living away from home Why don't you have a driver's licence?
never taken the practical test
i have a learner's licence but that's just for ID purposes
On June 30 2015 02:52 CorsairHero wrote:
that costs money
yeah, still got to get a yearly buss pass though
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i would love to live in a place where i didnt need a drivers license.
americas too big 
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I don't have a driver's license and i don't plan to ever get one. It's really not needed where i live.
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