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On June 27 2015 02:13 SKC wrote:
It's not exactly about who was worse, that's meaningless and impossible to measure. It's the tendency of pretending everything is black and white, all Nazis or confederates were monsters that did nothing but atrocities for their countries.
exactly, the Nazis were assholes.
But Rommel was an excellent man.
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On June 27 2015 02:11 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
when did mao get involved
im just juxtaposing internationally denounced and oft-misjudged villains to people hailed as heroes
it's fun and i hate mao that guy was pretty close to stalin
in my book these two are far worse than hitler
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On June 27 2015 02:15 andyrau wrote:im just juxtaposing internationally denounced and oft-misjudged villains to people hailed as heroes it's fun and i hate mao that guy was pretty close to stalin in my book these two are far worse than hitler
they definitely killed more people.
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huh who hails mao as a hero apart from the chinese government (xd lmao etc)
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On June 27 2015 02:12 Shaella wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2015 02:10 Plansix wrote:On June 27 2015 02:06 SKC wrote:On June 27 2015 01:58 Plansix wrote:On June 27 2015 01:55 SKC wrote:
People act like Gengis Khan or spartans were awesome, but god forbid gen. Lee and co. are not racist bastards I don't really think people are hyping of Khan as this cool dude who was a hero. And people love to idolize the Spartans because the history of them being basically violent assholes doesn't sit well with Hollywood. On June 27 2015 01:58 Unleashing wrote:On June 27 2015 01:55 Plansix wrote:On June 27 2015 01:47 Sn0_Man wrote:
man why'd valve promise us hats 3 they know they can't count that high etc
also when's ranked coming to reborn i wanna play that shit When it goes live for real? I don't think they want to fragment the match making much more. However, Ranked Matchmaking is not enabled yet. We anticipate that we’ll be able to turn it on in a few days, but we need more testing of the basic functionality first. Damn. I had stopped following the patch notes on that thing for a while. My bad. Good luck making one of these for Hitler: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genghis_Khan_Equestrian_StatueThere is a huge diferent between how people treat the Khans and mongol hordes and how they treat Nazi germany and now the confederates. If you want to ask me who was worse, having studied both, I will always say the Nazis. The systematic obliteration of people they did not want in their culture was only matched by the careful and meticulous records they kept of doing so. And Germany actively decided to never celebrate that part of their history and still does. Genghis Khan is literally the reason the middle east is as fucked as it is today tho.
I am pretty sure there were some other factors between then and now. The cold war factored in at some point.
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On June 27 2015 02:16 Sn0_Man wrote:
huh who hails mao as a hero apart from the chinese government (xd lmao etc)
ive met like 1 or 2 crazies in china who think mao did nothing wrong
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mao is basically the george washington of modern china except taken to the next level
kim il sung is the mao of north korea except taken to the level after that
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On June 27 2015 02:16 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2015 02:12 Shaella wrote:On June 27 2015 02:10 Plansix wrote:On June 27 2015 02:06 SKC wrote:On June 27 2015 01:58 Plansix wrote:On June 27 2015 01:55 SKC wrote:
People act like Gengis Khan or spartans were awesome, but god forbid gen. Lee and co. are not racist bastards I don't really think people are hyping of Khan as this cool dude who was a hero. And people love to idolize the Spartans because the history of them being basically violent assholes doesn't sit well with Hollywood. On June 27 2015 01:58 Unleashing wrote:On June 27 2015 01:55 Plansix wrote:On June 27 2015 01:47 Sn0_Man wrote:
man why'd valve promise us hats 3 they know they can't count that high etc
also when's ranked coming to reborn i wanna play that shit When it goes live for real? I don't think they want to fragment the match making much more. However, Ranked Matchmaking is not enabled yet. We anticipate that we’ll be able to turn it on in a few days, but we need more testing of the basic functionality first. Damn. I had stopped following the patch notes on that thing for a while. My bad. Good luck making one of these for Hitler: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genghis_Khan_Equestrian_StatueThere is a huge diferent between how people treat the Khans and mongol hordes and how they treat Nazi germany and now the confederates. If you want to ask me who was worse, having studied both, I will always say the Nazis. The systematic obliteration of people they did not want in their culture was only matched by the careful and meticulous records they kept of doing so. And Germany actively decided to never celebrate that part of their history and still does. Genghis Khan is literally the reason the middle east is as fucked as it is today tho. I am pretty sure there were some other factors between then and now. The cold war factored in at some point.
genghis khan was probably the biggest reason tho... he pretty much ended the golden age of islam
the 1953 iranian coup wasn't even really for cold war reasons but yea that was pretty fucking bad
poor middle east
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there are literally a billion people that think mao is a great hero in some part of the world
and probably a billion others who have a neutral opinion about the guy because they never read a book about 20th century asian history
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On June 27 2015 02:18 tehh4ck3r wrote:
mao is basically the george washington of modern china except taken to the next level
kim il sung is the mao of north korea except taken to the level after that
yea that first line is complete bullshit i'm pretty sure most of the younger generation in mainland china are pretty skeptical or indifferent about the official narrative of mao
a lot are still crazy and nationalistic but it's not like completely tied to believing the myth of mao
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okay but how many revolutionary leaders established democratic government and voluntarily stepped down after 8 or 10 years in power lets be real washington was a pretty gud guy with baaaaasically no relation to mao
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On June 27 2015 02:20 Sn0_Man wrote:
okay but how many revolutionary leaders established democratic government and voluntarily stepped down after 8 or 10 years in power lets be real washington was a pretty gud guy with baaaaasically no relation to mao
how many revolutions were about establishing democratic government in the first place
not that many
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On June 27 2015 02:20 Sn0_Man wrote:
okay but how many revolutionary leaders established democratic government and voluntarily stepped down after 8 or 10 years in power lets be real washington was a pretty gud guy with baaaaasically no relation to mao
i think he was making a hyperbole
On June 27 2015 02:20 Dattish wrote:
sun yat sen is the washington of china
interestingly enough he's celebrated by both taiwan and china
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On June 27 2015 02:20 Sn0_Man wrote:
okay but how many revolutionary leaders established democratic government and voluntarily stepped down after 8 or 10 years in power lets be real washington was a pretty gud guy with baaaaasically no relation to mao
Man could have been a king and chose to step down from power
Literally the most savage individual
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On June 27 2015 02:20 Sn0_Man wrote:
okay but how many revolutionary leaders established democratic government and voluntarily stepped down after 8 or 10 years in power lets be real washington was a pretty gud guy with baaaaasically no relation to mao
Literally none, but that is what makes the US so crazy. The founding fathers like Washington had a full respect for how insane the plan was and how quickly it could go wrong. Also, it helped we had no foreign powers on our doorstep to fuck with us(see French Revolution)
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I know that Canada at that point was primarily a cash cow, but was Mexico also pretty inactive during that time period?
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On June 27 2015 02:23 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2015 02:20 Sn0_Man wrote:
okay but how many revolutionary leaders established democratic government and voluntarily stepped down after 8 or 10 years in power lets be real washington was a pretty gud guy with baaaaasically no relation to mao Literally none, but that is what makes the US so crazy. The founding fathers like Washington had a full respect for how insane the plan was and how quickly it could go wrong. Also, it helped we had no foreign powers on our doorstep to fuck with us.
huh wat about us we whup'd ur ass in 1812 thats like a paltry 40 years after foundation or soemthing i actually have no idea when u guys got ur shit 1776?
On June 27 2015 02:24 IntoTheheart wrote:
I know that Canada at that point was primarily a cash cow, but was Mexico also pretty inactive during that time period?
america formed as like 13 states along the east coast, there wasn't anything that resembled a border with mexico lol
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On June 27 2015 02:22 andyrau wrote:interestingly enough he's celebrated by both taiwan and china
that's cuz everyone hated the late qing
still the analogy between mao and washington is soo baddd idk
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On June 27 2015 02:23 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2015 02:20 Sn0_Man wrote:
okay but how many revolutionary leaders established democratic government and voluntarily stepped down after 8 or 10 years in power lets be real washington was a pretty gud guy with baaaaasically no relation to mao Literally none, but that is what makes the US so crazy. The founding fathers like Washington had a full respect for how insane the plan was and how quickly it could go wrong. Also, it helped we had no foreign powers on our doorstep to fuck with us(see French Revolution)
we had 2 foreign powers on our doorstep to fuck with us
france and britain
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