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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
June 16 2015 19:21 GMT
#44801
On June 17 2015 04:19 dismiss wrote:
Okay that monitor costs 30k, rip the dream.

I wonder how many of those actually get bought, and by whom.
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trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-16 19:24:44
June 16 2015 19:22 GMT
#44802
For me, it's either pay more for monitor now and have the option to upgrade gpu more slowly or pay less for monitor and upgrade gpu more frequently (assuming constant image quality). The vendor lock in is shitty. Hopefully the price premium goes down though.
HighTimeDotA
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada1412 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-16 19:24:07
June 16 2015 19:23 GMT
#44803
On June 17 2015 04:14 Kupon3ss wrote:
even at 4k unless you already have a graphics card over 500 it isn't worth it


even on 1080p a gtx 980 cant even run gta5 or witcher 3 without lag. only if the canadian dollar wasnt so weak id buy a gtx 980 ti already.

and it doesnt help amd hasnt made anything good since 5870.
rtz is like the Bieber of dota, true Canadian treasure.
dismiss
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-16 19:27:22
June 16 2015 19:25 GMT
#44804
On June 17 2015 04:21 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 04:19 dismiss wrote:
Okay that monitor costs 30k, rip the dream.

I wonder how many of those actually get bought, and by whom.

People who do work that benefits from looking at bigger colour gamuts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_color_spaces_and_their_uses
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Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
June 16 2015 19:28 GMT
#44805
Also 980 was the clowncard, barely more performance for twice the price of a 970. Then nvidia went ahead and stuck it to 980owners by releasing a Titan for $50 more. Then AMD came along and rekt the 980ti with the Fury. :D
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-16 19:31:08
June 16 2015 19:29 GMT
#44806
On June 17 2015 04:28 dismiss wrote:
Also 980 was the clowncard, barely more performance for twice the price of a 970. Then nvidia went ahead and stuck it to 980owners by releasing a Titan for $50 more. Then AMD came along and rekt the 980ti with the Fury. :D

except u can't get a fury now and you haven't seen a single bench
unless u swallowed AMD's "The fastest video card in the world" that they repeated at least twice per sentence without any sort of reasoning or evidence.
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
June 16 2015 19:30 GMT
#44807
On June 17 2015 04:28 dismiss wrote:
Also 980 was the clowncard, barely more performance for twice the price of a 970. Then nvidia went ahead and stuck it to 980owners by releasing a Titan for $50 more. Then AMD came along and rekt the 980ti with the Fury. :D

I'd rather own a Titan than a Fury which will burn like the sun and need a PSU that could power the Hoover Dam.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
June 16 2015 19:31 GMT
#44808
On June 17 2015 04:30 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 04:28 dismiss wrote:
Also 980 was the clowncard, barely more performance for twice the price of a 970. Then nvidia went ahead and stuck it to 980owners by releasing a Titan for $50 more. Then AMD came along and rekt the 980ti with the Fury. :D

I'd rather own a Titan than a Fury which will burn like the sun and need a PSU that could power the Hoover Dam.

quoted at 275w for the card which is quite reasonable actually
that was like the only number that we actually got besides price
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
June 16 2015 19:32 GMT
#44809
alright can someone explain why this sony monitor costs 30k i dont get it
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-16 19:34:17
June 16 2015 19:33 GMT
#44810
On June 17 2015 04:32 teddyoojo wrote:
alright can someone explain why this sony monitor costs 30k i dont get it

cuz it's meant to be sold to businesses that can write it off as a tax deductible business expense
its also the best monitor on earth as far as I can tell but not 29K better than the competition
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Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
June 16 2015 19:35 GMT
#44811
You can hardly get a non reference 980ti outside of NA either. Ofc I haven't seen benches yet but at 100 dollars cheaper, and with an actual technological improvement on its side, I'm pretty confident it, at least, won't perform worse. Especially since AMD improved their tessellation capabilities on the 285 by a boatload already and were always ahead on compute performance.
Also, iirc there were some benchmarks leaked a couple weeks ago.
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
June 16 2015 19:35 GMT
#44812
As dumb as it sounds, what's the difference between a "good" monitor and a "low-quality" monitor?

I haven't had a desktop in a long time, as I use a laptop for everything.
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-16 19:38:32
June 16 2015 19:37 GMT
#44813
technically the Hoover dam takes 0 watts of external electricity


and as long as amd gives 0 fucks about their drivers I'll stick to nvda
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dismiss
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-16 19:43:21
June 16 2015 19:38 GMT
#44814
On June 17 2015 04:30 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 04:28 dismiss wrote:
Also 980 was the clowncard, barely more performance for twice the price of a 970. Then nvidia went ahead and stuck it to 980owners by releasing a Titan for $50 more. Then AMD came along and rekt the 980ti with the Fury. :D

I'd rather own a Titan than a Fury which will burn like the sun and need a PSU that could power the Hoover Dam.

Yeah, the Titan is a 250w card as well. And only available with a reference cooler which literally blows. That shit runs hot and loud as anything unless you're willing to spring for a waterblock and custom loop.
Apparently they allow closed loop watercooled titans now? Idk, those are generally pretty janky, I haven't found any with a good aftermarket air cooler, and non with a custom pcb including higher quality mosfets, caps, and vrm.
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HighTimeDotA
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada1412 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-16 19:47:15
June 16 2015 19:44 GMT
#44815
I'm assuming ur talking about titan x since titan is last gen. And I don't think anybody would buy a titan x with gtx 980 ti available cuz it literally costs 500cad more for minimal fps gain (1400vs900 yes canadian dollar is worthless atm thanks to the whole Ukraine bullshit) .

I personally hope fury is fast cuz I only care about performance/price not brand.
rtz is like the Bieber of dota, true Canadian treasure.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-16 19:51:40
June 16 2015 19:50 GMT
#44816
On June 17 2015 04:37 andyrau wrote:
and as long as amd gives 0 fucks about their drivers I'll stick to nvda

another favourite of the uninformed
and i run a nvidia card right now

anyway everybody should hope the fury is fast. Even if you'd never buy an amd card in any circumstance, competition drives innovation and price wars which can only favour the consumer.
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Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-16 20:02:24
June 16 2015 20:01 GMT
#44817
On June 17 2015 04:50 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 04:37 andyrau wrote:
and as long as amd gives 0 fucks about their drivers I'll stick to nvda

another favourite of the uninformed
and i run a nvidia card right now

anyway everybody should hope the fury is fast. Even if you'd never buy an amd card in any circumstance, competition drives innovation and price wars which can only favour the consumer.

Yeah, every driver past 350 TDRs like crazy because they fuggled up on the power deliver/cooling, so the only reason to have them is the fact that you want to play Witcher. AMD drivers are actually more stable right now, and people who bemoan that their last WHQL certified driver is half a year old are idiots because it has zero meaning. n_n The main problem is that Nvidia works with a lot of devs to make it hard for AMD to optimise their drivers for new games/provides a lot of utilites only in a compiled form rather than sourcecode.

You should pray for AMD to remain competitive because otherwise all the shady shit Nvidia does (hi Geralts chest hair, or incredibly heavy tesselated water under buildings that the player never gets to see) will run even more rampant.
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Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
June 16 2015 20:01 GMT
#44818


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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
June 16 2015 20:10 GMT
#44819
On June 17 2015 04:35 IntoTheheart wrote:
As dumb as it sounds, what's the difference between a "good" monitor and a "low-quality" monitor?

I haven't had a desktop in a long time, as I use a laptop for everything.


monitors are generally defined by several objective specs and additional features

the 3 main objective specs are

resolution - the number of pixels
refresh rate - the rate at which it can output frames
response times - the time it takes to respond

the subjective specs/features are generally

IPS - a different technology on which the monitor is built that offers better viewing angles and better color replication at a slight decrease to response times
Gsync/Freesync - variable frames means the monitors will seem smoother at lower than max refresh rates

Then you have the general considerations of brand, reliability, 'quality of panels' etc.
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
June 16 2015 20:43 GMT
#44820
On June 17 2015 04:50 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 04:37 andyrau wrote:
and as long as amd gives 0 fucks about their drivers I'll stick to nvda

another favourite of the uninformed
and i run a nvidia card right now

anyway everybody should hope the fury is fast. Even if you'd never buy an amd card in any circumstance, competition drives innovation and price wars which can only favour the consumer.

it's a well documented fact that amd's drivers suck a bag of dicks how is this an uninformed opinion
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