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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
June 16 2015 18:10 GMT
#44761
On June 17 2015 03:08 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 03:05 andyrau wrote:
https://itunes.apple.com/app/fallout-shelter/id991153141?mt=8
why is this shit opn ios and not android the system with the BIGGEST userbase in the WORLD!!

If its shit, why do you care?

They literally said it was a fun little thing they threw together for people to enjoy. Sure it would have just been more work and likely not worth it.

i didn't mean it was actual literal shit in the sense that it's garbag
shit is just a moniker for everything my brain is too lazy to place a label on my complaint was that it's not android
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 16 2015 18:13 GMT
#44762
On June 17 2015 03:08 dismiss wrote:
Deus Ex is now a xX1337HACKERXx ILLUMINATI thriller, aka Watchdogs 2.0 rofl what the fuck, really. I don't even know why I am watching this still.

Stealth and social options don't show is a press conference trailer.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
dismiss
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
June 16 2015 18:17 GMT
#44763
On June 17 2015 03:13 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 03:08 dismiss wrote:
Deus Ex is now a xX1337HACKERXx ILLUMINATI thriller, aka Watchdogs 2.0 rofl what the fuck, really. I don't even know why I am watching this still.

Stealth and social options don't show is a press conference trailer.

That's almost ad verbatim what the flower print dress lady said though.
Failure to improve posting standards will result in a lengthy ban. I <crms_> !dumb <GeoffAnderson> crmsdota <crms_> damnit
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
June 16 2015 18:18 GMT
#44764
On June 17 2015 03:17 dismiss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 03:13 Plansix wrote:
On June 17 2015 03:08 dismiss wrote:
Deus Ex is now a xX1337HACKERXx ILLUMINATI thriller, aka Watchdogs 2.0 rofl what the fuck, really. I don't even know why I am watching this still.

Stealth and social options don't show is a press conference trailer.

That's almost ad verbatim what the flower print dress lady said though.

Yeah they decided to axe half of the content that made the first game so beloved you FIGURED IT OUT.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
dismiss
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
June 16 2015 18:21 GMT
#44765
On June 17 2015 03:18 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 03:17 dismiss wrote:
On June 17 2015 03:13 Plansix wrote:
On June 17 2015 03:08 dismiss wrote:
Deus Ex is now a xX1337HACKERXx ILLUMINATI thriller, aka Watchdogs 2.0 rofl what the fuck, really. I don't even know why I am watching this still.

Stealth and social options don't show is a press conference trailer.

That's almost ad verbatim what the flower print dress lady said though.

Yeah they decided to axe half of the content that made the first game so beloved you FIGURED IT OUT.

HACKING IN PROGRESS
Failure to improve posting standards will result in a lengthy ban. I <crms_> !dumb <GeoffAnderson> crmsdota <crms_> damnit
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 16 2015 18:22 GMT
#44766
I doubt they removed the other half of what may Deus Ex good, considering this was about how they presented the last game. Even games like Dishonored 2 showed a lot more action, but we know stealth will be part of the game.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
June 16 2015 18:28 GMT
#44767
just bought payday2 watever
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
June 16 2015 18:28 GMT
#44768
well i think we can all agree that this e3 was a lot better than last year's
microsoft and sony swapped roles tho
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-16 18:31:25
June 16 2015 18:31 GMT
#44769
On June 17 2015 03:28 andyrau wrote:
well i think we can all agree that this e3 was a lot better than last year's
microsoft and sony swapped roles tho

I'd have to disagree, last year's E3 was great, this year's E3 i'd describe with underwhelming all around imoimo.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-16 18:34:07
June 16 2015 18:31 GMT
#44770
On June 17 2015 03:28 andyrau wrote:
well i think we can all agree that this e3 was a lot better than last year's
microsoft and sony swapped roles tho

Yeah, there were more original IPs this year and just new shit. Last year had me worried that we were just going to get sequels until the end of time.

But peoples obsession with live demos and "show me gameplay!" always amuses me. Gameplay demos of unfinished games are cobbled together for the show alone and barely work, or just run on scripts. Its like people demanding to be lied to.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
June 16 2015 18:39 GMT
#44771
I'm going to forever be mad that EA owns battlefront
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
June 16 2015 18:40 GMT
#44772
On June 17 2015 03:31 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 03:28 andyrau wrote:
well i think we can all agree that this e3 was a lot better than last year's
microsoft and sony swapped roles tho

Yeah, there were more original IPs this year and just new shit. Last year had me worried that we were just going to get sequels until the end of time.

But peoples obsession with live demos and "show me gameplay!" always amuses me. Gameplay demos of unfinished games are cobbled together for the show alone and barely work, or just run on scripts. Its like people demanding to be lied to.


If not some variety of gameplay for an unfinished game, what would you have them show you?
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 16 2015 18:40 GMT
#44773
On June 17 2015 03:39 Sn0_Man wrote:
I'm going to forever be mad that EA owns battlefront

It could be worse. Disney could own it and give zero fucks because its not "toys to life".
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
June 16 2015 18:41 GMT
#44774
I really hate prerendered cinematics
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
June 16 2015 18:42 GMT
#44775
On June 17 2015 03:41 PassiveAce wrote:
I really hate prerendered cinematics

I don't mind them as like, an intro for a game or something or an outro but like as a trailer whats even the point i dont get hyped at all i'd rather see ingame shit :|

actually some prerendered shit is cool like assasins creed 1's trailer was nice idk i think IM JUST DUMB
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
June 16 2015 18:43 GMT
#44776
On June 17 2015 03:31 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 03:28 andyrau wrote:
well i think we can all agree that this e3 was a lot better than last year's
microsoft and sony swapped roles tho

Yeah, there were more original IPs this year and just new shit. Last year had me worried that we were just going to get sequels until the end of time.

But peoples obsession with live demos and "show me gameplay!" always amuses me. Gameplay demos of unfinished games are cobbled together for the show alone and barely work, or just run on scripts. Its like people demanding to be lied to.


That's exactly what people want; too see the game in enough progress that such a thing can be cobbled together
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-16 18:45:32
June 16 2015 18:43 GMT
#44777
On June 17 2015 03:40 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 03:31 Plansix wrote:
On June 17 2015 03:28 andyrau wrote:
well i think we can all agree that this e3 was a lot better than last year's
microsoft and sony swapped roles tho

Yeah, there were more original IPs this year and just new shit. Last year had me worried that we were just going to get sequels until the end of time.

But peoples obsession with live demos and "show me gameplay!" always amuses me. Gameplay demos of unfinished games are cobbled together for the show alone and barely work, or just run on scripts. Its like people demanding to be lied to.


If not some variety of gameplay for an unfinished game, what would you have them show you?

I personally am just happy to see anything, cut scenes to just exploration. Or like Just Cause where they just showed canned film of shit blowing up. Even the Starwar Battlefront stuff was cool to see and looked pretty. I just laugh when people freak out that the entire scene seems scripted or not live gameplay. Especially on games that are not coming out in the fall.

On June 17 2015 03:43 Kupon3ss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 03:31 Plansix wrote:
On June 17 2015 03:28 andyrau wrote:
well i think we can all agree that this e3 was a lot better than last year's
microsoft and sony swapped roles tho

Yeah, there were more original IPs this year and just new shit. Last year had me worried that we were just going to get sequels until the end of time.

But peoples obsession with live demos and "show me gameplay!" always amuses me. Gameplay demos of unfinished games are cobbled together for the show alone and barely work, or just run on scripts. Its like people demanding to be lied to.


That's exactly what people want; too see the game in enough progress that such a thing can be cobbled together


So they want to be "lied to". Please fake this action scene with AI that doesn't work and physics is totally borked. Its all just a promise of what they hope to accomplish. If you read anything from game developers on game development, the game don't come together in a show-able state until the some stretch.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
June 16 2015 18:47 GMT
#44778
On June 17 2015 03:43 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 03:40 IntoTheheart wrote:
On June 17 2015 03:31 Plansix wrote:
On June 17 2015 03:28 andyrau wrote:
well i think we can all agree that this e3 was a lot better than last year's
microsoft and sony swapped roles tho

Yeah, there were more original IPs this year and just new shit. Last year had me worried that we were just going to get sequels until the end of time.

But peoples obsession with live demos and "show me gameplay!" always amuses me. Gameplay demos of unfinished games are cobbled together for the show alone and barely work, or just run on scripts. Its like people demanding to be lied to.


If not some variety of gameplay for an unfinished game, what would you have them show you?

I personally am just happy to see anything, cut scenes to just exploration. Or like Just Cause where they just showed canned film of shit blowing up. Even the Starwar Battlefront stuff was cool to see and looked pretty. I just laugh when people freak out that the entire scene seems scripted or not live gameplay. Especially on games that are not coming out in the fall.

I get that the shown gameplay won't be representative of the finished product, as there will be changes before we see anything from them. They might even be fake (see Rome 2: Total War), but I would argue that the closer a game is to coming out, the more gameplay should be shown (if possible), or even current screenshots.

The reason is due to how well the tone is being captured - you can tell a lot about the tone they're trying to present, which is really important to how well the game holds out.
kiss kiss fall in love
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-16 18:53:49
June 16 2015 18:52 GMT
#44779
why would a company ever show off an unfinished product lol

prerenders generate hype and shit
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Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
June 16 2015 18:53 GMT
#44780
Well you could glue something together that represents what the developers want out of the gameplay experience. Im sure people are tuning in for a chance to see the vision behind it all.
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