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tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7084 Posts
June 07 2015 18:34 GMT
#42141
dead game confirmed
AdministratorIn those days, spirits were brave, the stakes were high, men were real men, women were real women, and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
June 07 2015 18:34 GMT
#42142
On June 08 2015 03:33 Thetwinmasters wrote:
sing_sing is streaming hots now lol

A lot of streamers are being paid to stream it tonight afaik.

Waga talked about being under contract to stream it this evening anyway and that he and other streamers would be playing on some tournament during it.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
June 07 2015 18:34 GMT
#42143
On June 08 2015 03:33 Thetwinmasters wrote:
sing_sing is streaming hots now lol

I think I'm gonna bitch about blizzard making 2 hots till the day I die
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
June 07 2015 18:37 GMT
#42144
i mean out of context u can be 100% sure blizz isnt going to invest a single penny into sc2
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
June 07 2015 18:46 GMT
#42145
HotS got a 6.5 from IGN, Dota 2 got a 9.4. Clearly Dota 2 is a superior game.

But after playing around 10 games of HotS it has some nice ideas but is a pretty boring game.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
June 07 2015 18:49 GMT
#42146
On June 08 2015 03:34 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2015 03:33 Thetwinmasters wrote:
sing_sing is streaming hots now lol

A lot of streamers are being paid to stream it tonight afaik.

Waga talked about being under contract to stream it this evening anyway and that he and other streamers would be playing on some tournament during it.

ye i saw summit streaming yesterday, and aliastar was streaming it this morning lol
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
June 07 2015 18:50 GMT
#42147
Aliastar has been streaming it for a while. He's not under contract.
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Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
June 07 2015 18:53 GMT
#42148
summ1t accidentally revealed an email where blizz is paying streamers to stream the game and play a hots tournament. Some people like the game enough but this is pretty aggressive even for blizzard's standards.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
June 07 2015 19:00 GMT
#42149
On June 08 2015 03:53 Kuroeeah wrote:
summ1t accidentally revealed an email where blizz is paying streamers to stream the game and play a hots tournament. Some people like the game enough but this is pretty aggressive even for blizzard's standards.

Blizzard is salty over losing the rights to DotA and a piece of the MOBA pie so they have to catch-up in a market already saturated with huge established names. From promoting it on ESPN with a college tournament and now paying big name streamers to give their game a try they really want to make HotS on par with LoL or Dota 2 but HotS gets even less viewers than SC2 so really, I don't see HotS changing anything from the LoL/Dota 2 paradigm.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
June 07 2015 19:02 GMT
#42150
On June 08 2015 04:00 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2015 03:53 Kuroeeah wrote:
summ1t accidentally revealed an email where blizz is paying streamers to stream the game and play a hots tournament. Some people like the game enough but this is pretty aggressive even for blizzard's standards.

Blizzard is salty over losing the rights to DotA and a piece of the MOBA pie so they have to catch-up in a market already saturated with huge established names. From promoting it on ESPN with a college tournament and now paying big name streamers to give their game a try they really want to make HotS on par with LoL or Dota 2 but HotS gets even less viewers than SC2 so really, I don't see HotS changing anything from the LoL/Dota 2 paradigm.

wait I thought hots got more viewers than hots
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
June 07 2015 19:06 GMT
#42151
paying prominent streams and video creators is standard industry practice popularized by LoL
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
June 07 2015 19:18 GMT
#42152
On June 08 2015 04:06 Kupon3ss wrote:
paying prominent streams and video creators is standard industry practice popularized by LoL


so basically this is riot approved
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 07 2015 19:22 GMT
#42153
On June 08 2015 03:46 PhoenixVoid wrote:
HotS got a 6.5 from IGN, Dota 2 got a 9.4. Clearly Dota 2 is a superior game.

But after playing around 10 games of HotS it has some nice ideas but is a pretty boring game.

Its ok, because the guy who reviewed it played Dota first and according to the internet that makes him bias. Because the review score is supposed to confirm the bias of that game's fan base.

HotS is fine with friends and a much lower impact game.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
June 07 2015 19:23 GMT
#42154
6.5 on ign lol
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
June 07 2015 19:25 GMT
#42155
On June 08 2015 04:22 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2015 03:46 PhoenixVoid wrote:
HotS got a 6.5 from IGN, Dota 2 got a 9.4. Clearly Dota 2 is a superior game.

But after playing around 10 games of HotS it has some nice ideas but is a pretty boring game.

Its ok, because the guy who reviewed it played Dota first and according to the internet that makes him bias. Because the review score is supposed to confirm the bias of that game's fan base.

HotS is fine with friends and a much lower impact game.


i mean they're not wrong IGN has a history of their reviews not being legit (if you ask most people)
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 07 2015 19:30 GMT
#42156
On June 08 2015 04:25 BluemoonSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2015 04:22 Plansix wrote:
On June 08 2015 03:46 PhoenixVoid wrote:
HotS got a 6.5 from IGN, Dota 2 got a 9.4. Clearly Dota 2 is a superior game.

But after playing around 10 games of HotS it has some nice ideas but is a pretty boring game.

Its ok, because the guy who reviewed it played Dota first and according to the internet that makes him bias. Because the review score is supposed to confirm the bias of that game's fan base.

HotS is fine with friends and a much lower impact game.


i mean they're not wrong IGN has a history of their reviews not being legit (if you ask most people)

I've been following Mitch Dyer a while and he is a smart dude. He knows his shit. Way more than people who freak out about review scores.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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l3loodraven
Profile Joined July 2013
2753 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-07 19:31:16
June 07 2015 19:30 GMT
#42157
hai guize dae liek having opinions on other people's opinions??
"fear.dankness cuts deeper than swords"
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
June 07 2015 19:32 GMT
#42158
The problem with the score is that the reviewer is approaching the game after having played and devoted significant time to both dota and lol instead of blizzard's target audience.
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-07 19:34:13
June 07 2015 19:33 GMT
#42159
On June 08 2015 04:30 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2015 04:25 BluemoonSC wrote:
On June 08 2015 04:22 Plansix wrote:
On June 08 2015 03:46 PhoenixVoid wrote:
HotS got a 6.5 from IGN, Dota 2 got a 9.4. Clearly Dota 2 is a superior game.

But after playing around 10 games of HotS it has some nice ideas but is a pretty boring game.

Its ok, because the guy who reviewed it played Dota first and according to the internet that makes him bias. Because the review score is supposed to confirm the bias of that game's fan base.

HotS is fine with friends and a much lower impact game.


i mean they're not wrong IGN has a history of their reviews not being legit (if you ask most people)

I've been following Mitch Dyer a while and he is a smart dude. He knows his shit. Way more than people who freak out about review scores.


maybe that particular reviewer is legit, but i stopped even bothering to check ign for review scores tbh

that said, i read the review and he raises valid points, all of which i agree with. but if you only have 20 minutes and you wanna feel like a god, go play HotS

On June 08 2015 04:32 Kupon3ss wrote:
The problem with the score is that the reviewer is approaching the game after having played and devoted significant time to both dota and lol instead of blizzard's target audience.


hueheuheuhe
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
June 07 2015 19:34 GMT
#42160
ya i mean if u play dota for a while ur just not blizzards target audience anymore

its same with church, they get u early cuz once u can read books on ur own ur not really their target audience anymore
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
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