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On May 07 2015 23:26 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2015 23:24 Plansix wrote:
The idea that last years team wouldn't be invited is crazy, even if they are garbo tier right now. i bet htey could easily win bo3s against like vp or empire or TM in their current shape ppl who dont follow china think they just stayed in DAC form rofl
newbee's not that bad
but easily win against empire or vp probably not .. before ig and c9 faced i totally thought that c9 was gonna get owned super hard by IG not even close .. but it was the opposite IG had a really rough time winning against C9
vp and empire may not be top west level but i doubt the gap between them and newbee is that big
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Its the standard Esports: you need to be in the finals for every event or you're terrible. We don't do nuance well.
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On May 07 2015 23:39 Plansix wrote:
Its the standard Esports: you need to be in the finals for every event or you're terrible. We don't do nuance well.
2-13 round robin result isn't exactly barely missing the finals
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newbee is winning ti5 anyway
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On May 07 2015 23:42 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2015 23:39 Plansix wrote:
Its the standard Esports: you need to be in the finals for every event or you're terrible. We don't do nuance well. 2-13 round robin result isn't exactly barely missing the finals
They were invited, not seeded into the finals. Winning TI4 is a pretty good trump card for "I should be invited to TI5"
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? i'm not arguing that Newbee didn't deserve the invite i'm assuring you that they well and truly blew at DAC, its not some "missed the finals must be bad" logic its "played like absolute shit, came last place, must be bad" facts.
They of course deserve to be at TI5
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I don't follow China at all, what is their record outside of DAC? Have they done better since or at least passable?
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Ya I mean I just haven't seen any major lan results from them. And their last Showing was pitiful.
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I think they recently lost to Newbee.Y too XD
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On May 07 2015 23:56 Sn0_Man wrote:
I think they recently lost to Newbee.Y too XD
Exactly, so I understand that after TI they won a bunch, but recently idk.
I guess we can expect to see the reigning champs get auto invited from here on out.
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They are probally still better than the shitty chinese teams, 4th in China may not be that far off.
Turning everyone that is saying NB is bad into "standard ESPORTS short term memory" is still absurd.
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On May 07 2015 23:33 Alaric wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2015 06:44 eieio wrote:
I bet if topdeckmoba had a GD it would be much more positive
I'd say superiormoba too but I'm pretty sure that thread is 80% shaella smurfs and 20% moonbear and yango talking about pokemon Does that mean I'm actually a cactus too?
yup definitely a cactus
you're all cacti
at least scip and wei2
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On May 08 2015 00:09 SKC wrote:
They are probally still better than the shitty chinese teams, 4th in China may not be that far off.
Turning everyone that is saying NB is bad into "standard ESPORTS short term memory" is still absurd.
I guess my cut off for a team being bad is a full year of poor performance before they are straight up bad.
But to each their own.
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On May 08 2015 00:12 eieio wrote:
wayto is shaella?
shaellas 4k so it adds up
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That is kinda insane in Dota standards. It's like saying Tinker wasn't bad 2 months ago because they had decent results just after they formed. Or that pre-TI4 Alliance wasn't bad because they won TI3.
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players' individual skill newbee > iG. teamplay both teams need a coach so they stop doing stupid shit.
if u think newbee players are bad you're fucking awful. they just have nobody on their team to take up xiao8s role of telling ppl what to do and missing a coach to analyse teams/games and help the drafts.
its stupidly important to have a good captain/drafter, just look at ppd/xiao8/rotk, none of those players are particularly amazing at game mechanics but they carried their teams top 3 at TI4.
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I'm not sure whether you're flaming Shaella or Scip harder with that.
Oh well, I'm still green so I probably fit the cactus part anyway.
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