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Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
April 26 2015 12:09 GMT
#29641
"They could kill someone, but there's no one around." Purge #1 caster.

Holy shit, I'm really turning into comeh.
Failure to improve posting standards will result in a lengthy ban. I <crms_> !dumb <GeoffAnderson> crmsdota <crms_> damnit
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
April 26 2015 12:17 GMT
#29642
On April 26 2015 20:36 dismiss wrote:
"he used hex defensively, until he used it offensively."

guys we need win, or we lose.

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"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
April 26 2015 14:09 GMT
#29643


interesting interview with iceiceice
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-26 14:21:42
April 26 2015 14:21 GMT
#29644
ya ive always thought the rubberband's been overstated/overestimated as fk since 6.82c, to the point where teams miss timings that would have been the same timings pre-rubberband just because they're soooooo scared of highgrounding
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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
April 26 2015 14:21 GMT
#29645
it has to some extent

I still don't like it, the rubberband is basically why sniper is so fucking insane because its near impossible to break high ground against him, and he's good at breaking highground
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
April 26 2015 14:22 GMT
#29646
rubberband is solely responsible for why any team that I support loses any game that lasts over 5 minutes
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
April 26 2015 14:22 GMT
#29647
he'd have those same properties without the rubberband

also i'm still confused why dusa's been ignored all of starladder, i've seen at least like 2-3 drafts where she'd be better than the sniper that was actually picked
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
April 26 2015 14:29 GMT
#29648
tbh the biggest problem with the rubberband mechanic is the exp part of it, the gold part was nerfed and changed heavily after it was implemented and honestly isn't that bad anymore, but the exp swings are absolutely idiotic still.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-26 14:44:17
April 26 2015 14:43 GMT
#29649
On April 26 2015 23:29 Unleashing wrote:
tbh the biggest problem with the rubberband mechanic is the exp part of it, the gold part was nerfed and changed heavily after it was implemented and honestly isn't that bad anymore, but the exp swings are absolutely idiotic still.


yep, im upset about the gold changes, but honestly for a lot of lineups, if you lose the early game, that gold swing you get from a 5 man wipe is probably deserved.

the xp on the other hand is absurd. if you think about it the gigantic swings especially later when you get level 17+, you're getting the natural stat gain from each level PLUS the +2 stats from taking points into stats.

sometimes i feel like that makes more of a difference than anything else.

(don't get me started on support xp or what happens if you dominate your lane early as a carry)
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Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
April 26 2015 15:09 GMT
#29650
On April 26 2015 23:29 Unleashing wrote:
tbh the biggest problem with the rubberband mechanic is the exp part of it, the gold part was nerfed and changed heavily after it was implemented and honestly isn't that bad anymore, but the exp swings are absolutely idiotic still.

Its bad enough to remove heros like Alchemist and BH completly from the metagame. Especially combinded with hoho haha and troll bashlord who wont let you go highground unpunished ever.
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
April 26 2015 15:19 GMT
#29651
my games as of late are actually so awful
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-26 15:19:41
April 26 2015 15:19 GMT
#29652
ig making sven look good.

i think their lineup made the hero look op, but idk..i still wanna see just a small buff on the hero so he's picked more

On April 27 2015 00:19 Shaella wrote:
my games as of late are actually so awful


i thought you were supposed to be a LEGEND or something
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Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
April 26 2015 15:23 GMT
#29653
Give Warcry instant 522ms to keep up with troll and you're good to go.
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
April 26 2015 15:25 GMT
#29654
On April 27 2015 00:09 Slomo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2015 23:29 Unleashing wrote:
tbh the biggest problem with the rubberband mechanic is the exp part of it, the gold part was nerfed and changed heavily after it was implemented and honestly isn't that bad anymore, but the exp swings are absolutely idiotic still.

Its bad enough to remove heros like Alchemist and BH completly from the metagame. Especially combinded with hoho haha and troll bashlord who wont let you go highground unpunished ever.

BH is far from removed from the metagame and Alch is awful even without the gold changes.

In fact it made support BH amazing because you maintain good trades with good track usage and even out any kind of rubberband with him.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
April 26 2015 15:32 GMT
#29655
Who even picked BH before the gold and xp mechanic changes? The only team I remember utilizing him was c9. But he certainly wasn't pushed out due to those changes, he was hardly a pick for most teams before them and c9 seem to still like him in some scenarios.
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-26 16:22:57
April 26 2015 16:22 GMT
#29656
VG sees your complaints about rubberband.

They say 'git good nubs'
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
April 26 2015 16:30 GMT
#29657
ya apparently the solution to the rubber band is to play a perfect, dominating game.

good lord that was sick.
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-26 16:35:39
April 26 2015 16:34 GMT
#29658
honestly even with vg games aside, there were way more snowbally 1-sided games than "rubberband" games this LAN

and i feel relatively certain that c9 vs ig g2 would've happened the same way without the rubberband
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tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7084 Posts
April 26 2015 16:37 GMT
#29659
well at least 6.84 is coming so rubberband circlejerk will end for now
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-26 16:45:53
April 26 2015 16:37 GMT
#29660
nah i wouldn't be surprised if it weren't touched. i mean i wouldn't be surprised if it were, but still

whean ptc h? patch when? w e n p a c h???
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