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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
April 13 2015 21:33 GMT
#26341
anyone up for 1-2 dota2 games in about soon
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-13 21:38:28
April 13 2015 21:35 GMT
#26342
I wonder if pipe should be buffed / cheaper - the item is theoretically good but never picked up. I guess its more because of the heroes that are played than the weakness of the item
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trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
April 13 2015 21:36 GMT
#26343
what if crimson could block things like death ward
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 13 2015 21:37 GMT
#26344
I keep finding vipers that rush pipe in my games for whatever reason
sooooo awful
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
April 13 2015 21:37 GMT
#26345
it wouldnt be a terrible item anymore, it would be an incredibly mediocre completly broken item
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 13 2015 21:37 GMT
#26346
That just makes it stupid against certain heroes without making it better in normal scenarios.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 13 2015 21:37 GMT
#26347
I always wonder if Pipe needs a buff of some kind. Maybe if it lasted longer. It always seems like you get one good push out of it going high ground and that is it.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 13 2015 21:38 GMT
#26348
On April 14 2015 06:37 Plansix wrote:
I always wonder if Pipe needs a buff of some kind. Maybe if it lasted longer. It always seems like you get one good push out of it going high ground and that is it.

bigger aoe would be a better start imo u have to kiss each other to actually get the buff
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-13 21:39:23
April 13 2015 21:38 GMT
#26349
Drums needs to be cheaper by 75 gold and I'll pick it up again on more heroes.

On April 14 2015 06:38 Sn0_Man wrote:
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On April 14 2015 06:37 Plansix wrote:
I always wonder if Pipe needs a buff of some kind. Maybe if it lasted longer. It always seems like you get one good push out of it going high ground and that is it.

bigger aoe would be a better start imo u have to kiss each other to actually get the buff


it was patched like 2 patches ago to be a bigger aoe when you use it now. Im guessing you haven't bought it in awhile.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-13 21:40:20
April 13 2015 21:39 GMT
#26350
On April 14 2015 06:37 Sn0_Man wrote:
I keep finding vipers that rush pipe in my games for whatever reason
sooooo awful

Hood's actually a decent farming item if you maxed Corrosive by 7 cuz your autoattack stats are shit at that point in the game compared to using Corrosive like a poor man's Radiance.

IDK why you'd upgrade it though.

On April 14 2015 06:37 Plansix wrote:
I always wonder if Pipe needs a buff of some kind. Maybe if it lasted longer. It always seems like you get one good push out of it going high ground and that is it.

Change the 2nd component to not be a Headdress so you're not buying 2k gold worth of HP regen to buy the item, lol.

Like, no hero wants to spend almost 2000 gold on Rings of Regen/Health.
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
April 13 2015 21:40 GMT
#26351
On April 14 2015 06:39 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 06:37 Sn0_Man wrote:
I keep finding vipers that rush pipe in my games for whatever reason
sooooo awful

Hood's actually a decent farming item if you maxed Corrosive by 7 cuz your autoattack stats are shit at that point in the game compared to using Corrosive like a poor man's Radiance.

this actually makes my eyes bleed a little
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-13 21:42:43
April 13 2015 21:40 GMT
#26352
On April 14 2015 06:38 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 06:37 Plansix wrote:
I always wonder if Pipe needs a buff of some kind. Maybe if it lasted longer. It always seems like you get one good push out of it going high ground and that is it.

bigger aoe would be a better start imo u have to kiss each other to actually get the buff

Maybe if it was just an aura around the hero that you only got once, so you could shield a second wave of creeps.

Edit: Or what Yango said. The time is so weird because its all shit I don't want and only benefits my hero. Or just give all that regen in the aura.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-13 21:42:06
April 13 2015 21:41 GMT
#26353
On April 14 2015 06:38 Comeh wrote:
Drums needs to be cheaper by 75 gold and I'll pick it up again on more heroes.

Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 06:38 Sn0_Man wrote:
On April 14 2015 06:37 Plansix wrote:
I always wonder if Pipe needs a buff of some kind. Maybe if it lasted longer. It always seems like you get one good push out of it going high ground and that is it.

bigger aoe would be a better start imo u have to kiss each other to actually get the buff


it was patched like 2 patches ago to be a bigger aoe when you use it now. Im guessing you haven't bought it in awhile.

huh
6.79
Barrier AoE increased from 500 to 900

there u go ur right turns out it didn't help still shit item
also apparently it lasts 12s instead of 10s as of some recent patch. Also not really a help although there's no reason for it not to last like 20s.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 13 2015 21:44 GMT
#26354
At least it doesn't cost 250 mana like mek. I guess thats a plus?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
April 13 2015 21:45 GMT
#26355
On April 14 2015 06:33 teddyoojo wrote:
anyone up for 1-2 dota2 games in about soon


yeah lemme eat

@yango i rarely see it picked up these days. it doesnt have stats which would be neat, but ofc that would have to make it cost more.
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Howie_Dewitt
Profile Joined March 2014
United States1416 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-13 21:55:08
April 13 2015 21:53 GMT
#26356
How about if pipe scaled a little better?
Like, what if it made your magic resistance go up by 35% (don't get hung up on the number, brainstorming comes now and fine tuning later)
Keep the duration the same, and have it wear off once you have taken 300 damage after resistance is factored in. If a down breaks the limit, the spell will still be fully affected by the pipe active.

E: teddy and blue moon would you be willing to take me along? I don't argue with many things outside of people starting bitchfights that blow up to all chat. I'm not skilled but I will take tips.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-13 21:57:48
April 13 2015 21:56 GMT
#26357
On April 14 2015 06:45 BluemoonSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 06:33 teddyoojo wrote:
anyone up for 1-2 dota2 games in about soon


yeah lemme eat

@yango i rarely see it picked up these days. it doesnt have stats which would be neat, but ofc that would have to make it cost more.

I mean, the cancer heroes that everyone picks in pubs aren't great with it, but that's more the heroes making teamcomps go a certain way, not the item being too weak. When the heroes for it get picked in competitive the item still gets seen a ton (e.g. Panda, Dire side AM, Lycan).

I'm not convinced that the item needs to be buffed just because the heroes that buy the item all the time aren't getting picked all the time.
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
April 13 2015 21:57 GMT
#26358
come into tlih chat channel not the guild channel the chat channel and wriite something i can recognize
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7084 Posts
April 13 2015 21:57 GMT
#26359
pipe seems like it should be really strong right now what with the imposibility of trying to break highground but no one ever buys it
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-13 21:58:13
April 13 2015 21:58 GMT
#26360
hmmm vlads isn't just dire side for AM these days especially since u can blink right into the pit from radiant jungle.
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