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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-31 18:41:31
March 31 2015 18:40 GMT
#23221
On April 01 2015 03:04 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 03:00 andyrau wrote:
On April 01 2015 02:55 goody153 wrote:
On April 01 2015 02:50 TheEmulator wrote:
On April 01 2015 02:46 goody153 wrote:
what about singsing, rtz and dendi ? they usually have more stream viewers than waga(not sure about donations though)

They receive no where near the same amount of subs/donations as waga. And the stream viewer numbers really aren't that much higher on average. Usually once waga is on for a few hours he has like 5-10k right? Anyway waga has a sub counter on the top right everyday and I always see it at like 20-40+. He just started today and it's already 1 sub, lol.

Not to mention the constant stream of donation messages coming in. He's definitely making more than most pros/casters doing this.

idk man you'll see rtz/dendi/sing like close to 30k viewers sometimes and that's with many other streamers streaming sometimes even with waga and adb on the field

but idk if any of them outside gets a lot of subs

i think it's pretty pointless either way to compare dota 2 twitch culture to the rest of the site
it's only been a recent thing where people have started accepting donations and thanking people for subs. I'm not sure if this is a good thing or not because there's always been some kind of weird stigma against 'selling out' in dota, but monetizing viewers with donations is kind of a grey area for me

I think its fine. Its like street performers or bands when they accept donations after a live set. Twitch is more like live performance that it is a regular show and people are just learning how cash in on that.

it's not like street performers at all tho.
superficially it is, but there's not as much pandering and that's where I have a problem with it
half the time someone donates it's so that they have a bit of e-fame or gain a bit of cred with the streamer him/herself. idk i feel like there's such a disconnect between donating and actually empathize with/appreciate the streamer with what he/she is trying to do.

on another note, I'm not sure why disingenuous ingratiating shit like this is such a turnoff to me when I work in finance maybe I chose the wrong field or smth

On April 01 2015 03:15 Sn0_Man wrote:
didn't chu leave hon for LoL, get top 1 ladder NA in like a month, then went back to hon and is now irrelevant in all 3 scenes at once?
that guy was considered a god at hon for a while rofl.

he was carried by pros apparently
then he tried switching back to hon and he wasn't godly anymore, and later tried switching to dota and he was like 4.5k mmr

idk what he's doing nowadays, last time i saw him stream was like 6+ months ago.

On April 01 2015 03:37 TheEmulator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 03:34 Sn0_Man wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:32 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:30 teddyoojo wrote:
i have literally never played an instrument in my life i have not even played the obligatory flute as a child

The instrument everyone plays here in elementary is the recorder, an awful, high-pitched musical version of Stalin, Hitler, Mao Zedong and Pol Pot combined. I think that alone turned off so many kids from taking music further.

you mean this instrument?

Biblethump

RTZ/Fear stream anthem forever remembered.

User was warned for this post

i cant even tell if this was a legitimate warn or if emu edited it in himself as an ironic joke

o u actually warned yourself based emu am i following u back on twitter
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
March 31 2015 18:41 GMT
#23222
On April 01 2015 03:39 Comeh wrote:
wow mods can use twitch emotes?

What is this BULLSHIT Ka...

nevermind.
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 03:39 Shaella wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:36 TheEmulator wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:35 Shaella wrote:
Or you're just naturally good like me

Speaking of dunning-Krueger...

jk ilu I'm sorry for being mean.

What? I'm actually 4k without trying

With zero dedication to dota i'm in the top 1% of players that is pretty fucking disgusting.

i'm sure there's dedicated players out there that are far more terrible

like i'm not claiming i'm the best player ever of all time, and i completely lack the dedication to climb. So.


being 4k w/o trying isn't that hard. i'm more impressed by the people that put in minimal effort and are 5k.

I'm just saying, there's probably 2k players that are dedicated to this game and thats funny.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
March 31 2015 18:43 GMT
#23223
On April 01 2015 03:41 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 03:39 Comeh wrote:
wow mods can use twitch emotes?

What is this BULLSHIT Ka...

nevermind.
On April 01 2015 03:39 Shaella wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:36 TheEmulator wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:35 Shaella wrote:
Or you're just naturally good like me

Speaking of dunning-Krueger...

jk ilu I'm sorry for being mean.

What? I'm actually 4k without trying

With zero dedication to dota i'm in the top 1% of players that is pretty fucking disgusting.

i'm sure there's dedicated players out there that are far more terrible

like i'm not claiming i'm the best player ever of all time, and i completely lack the dedication to climb. So.


being 4k w/o trying isn't that hard. i'm more impressed by the people that put in minimal effort and are 5k.

I'm just saying, there's probably 2k players that are dedicated to this game and thats funny.

I'd imagine most of the people in that bracket either don't play / follow the game much, or its their first competitive game they've tried playing or game at this difficulty.

One day i'll be inspired to go up to 5.5k, but that seems like a lot of work to improve that much.
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
March 31 2015 18:43 GMT
#23224
On April 01 2015 03:39 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 03:36 TheEmulator wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:35 Shaella wrote:
Or you're just naturally good like me

Speaking of dunning-Krueger...

jk ilu I'm sorry for being mean.

What? I'm actually 4k without trying

With zero dedication to dota i'm in the top 1% of players that is pretty fucking disgusting.

i'm sure there's dedicated players out there that are far more terrible

like i'm not claiming i'm the best player ever of all time, and i completely lack the dedication to climb. So.

hahahahahahhahhahhhahahahhaha u get so emo theres no way you arent trying

unless it's all an act

like laertes
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44289 Posts
March 31 2015 18:43 GMT
#23225
On April 01 2015 03:37 TheEmulator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 03:34 Sn0_Man wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:32 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:30 teddyoojo wrote:
i have literally never played an instrument in my life i have not even played the obligatory flute as a child

The instrument everyone plays here in elementary is the recorder, an awful, high-pitched musical version of Stalin, Hitler, Mao Zedong and Pol Pot combined. I think that alone turned off so many kids from taking music further.

you mean this instrument?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2WH8mHJnhM

Biblethump

RTZ/Fear stream anthem forever remembered.

User was warned for this post

rofl i was so confused for a second

i thought emu got demoted
this is a quote
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
March 31 2015 18:44 GMT
#23226
On April 01 2015 03:41 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 03:39 Comeh wrote:
wow mods can use twitch emotes?

What is this BULLSHIT Ka...

nevermind.
On April 01 2015 03:39 Shaella wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:36 TheEmulator wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:35 Shaella wrote:
Or you're just naturally good like me

Speaking of dunning-Krueger...

jk ilu I'm sorry for being mean.

What? I'm actually 4k without trying

With zero dedication to dota i'm in the top 1% of players that is pretty fucking disgusting.

i'm sure there's dedicated players out there that are far more terrible

like i'm not claiming i'm the best player ever of all time, and i completely lack the dedication to climb. So.


being 4k w/o trying isn't that hard. i'm more impressed by the people that put in minimal effort and are 5k.

I'm just saying, there's probably 2k players that are dedicated to this game and thats funny.

I mean I know some people that have like 3000-4000 games played and are still 2k or low 3k MMR. I know a Meepo player with thousands of games played who's barely 3k (sorry Pholon)
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
March 31 2015 18:44 GMT
#23227
Nah, people are just terrible. There are plenty of 2k-3k players that have played the game for years.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
March 31 2015 18:44 GMT
#23228
On April 01 2015 03:43 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 03:39 Shaella wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:36 TheEmulator wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:35 Shaella wrote:
Or you're just naturally good like me

Speaking of dunning-Krueger...

jk ilu I'm sorry for being mean.

What? I'm actually 4k without trying

With zero dedication to dota i'm in the top 1% of players that is pretty fucking disgusting.

i'm sure there's dedicated players out there that are far more terrible

like i'm not claiming i'm the best player ever of all time, and i completely lack the dedication to climb. So.

hahahahahahhahhahhhahahahhaha u get so emo theres no way you arent trying

unless it's all an act

like laertes

i'm not dedicated but i like to -win-.

but i never fucking win i hate dota.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
March 31 2015 18:45 GMT
#23229
On April 01 2015 03:43 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 03:41 Shaella wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:39 Comeh wrote:
wow mods can use twitch emotes?

What is this BULLSHIT Ka...

nevermind.
On April 01 2015 03:39 Shaella wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:36 TheEmulator wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:35 Shaella wrote:
Or you're just naturally good like me

Speaking of dunning-Krueger...

jk ilu I'm sorry for being mean.

What? I'm actually 4k without trying

With zero dedication to dota i'm in the top 1% of players that is pretty fucking disgusting.

i'm sure there's dedicated players out there that are far more terrible

like i'm not claiming i'm the best player ever of all time, and i completely lack the dedication to climb. So.


being 4k w/o trying isn't that hard. i'm more impressed by the people that put in minimal effort and are 5k.

I'm just saying, there's probably 2k players that are dedicated to this game and thats funny.

I'd imagine most of the people in that bracket either don't play / follow the game much, or its their first competitive game they've tried playing or game at this difficulty.

One day i'll be inspired to go up to 5.5k, but that seems like a lot of work to improve that much.

i noticed that most of my irl friends who are 2k or something awful like that were mostly console gamers who discovered that the pc had more than just a web browser
"mmr is a social construct" - tumblr
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 31 2015 18:45 GMT
#23230
On April 01 2015 03:41 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 03:39 Comeh wrote:
wow mods can use twitch emotes?

What is this BULLSHIT Ka...

nevermind.
On April 01 2015 03:39 Shaella wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:36 TheEmulator wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:35 Shaella wrote:
Or you're just naturally good like me

Speaking of dunning-Krueger...

jk ilu I'm sorry for being mean.

What? I'm actually 4k without trying

With zero dedication to dota i'm in the top 1% of players that is pretty fucking disgusting.

i'm sure there's dedicated players out there that are far more terrible

like i'm not claiming i'm the best player ever of all time, and i completely lack the dedication to climb. So.


being 4k w/o trying isn't that hard. i'm more impressed by the people that put in minimal effort and are 5k.

I'm just saying, there's probably 2k players that are dedicated to this game and thats funny.

My father loves to fly and repair planes, but isn't an ace pilot. Whats your point? You looking down on people because you a more naturally talented than them?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
March 31 2015 18:46 GMT
#23231
I'm pretty much convinced most people can be 4k if they approach the game from the right way / learn to learn.

I'm pretty convinced everyone can be 5k if they are dedicated and approach the game from the right way / learn to learn.
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
March 31 2015 18:46 GMT
#23232
On April 01 2015 03:33 TheEmulator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 03:29 Plansix wrote:
Further confirming by theory that playing musical instruments makes you better at games like Dota.

I think the skill of learning to dedicate yourself to getting good at things you enjoy is what's important. So it's not really about being a musician it's about understanding what it takes to improve at things, etc.


nice post emu.

lots of noobers of the world downplay the effort talented people put into things. they diminish the countless hours that person has put in to learning their instrument, craft, game, whatever and just assume its some magical inherent skill. Also to be clear for GD plebs, I'm not saying there isn't such thing as talent or a varying spectrum of inherent skill for any task but generally speaking the best of X, put in a lot more effort than anyone else and that shouldn't be so quickly discarded all the time.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
March 31 2015 18:46 GMT
#23233
On April 01 2015 03:45 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 03:41 Shaella wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:39 Comeh wrote:
wow mods can use twitch emotes?

What is this BULLSHIT Ka...

nevermind.
On April 01 2015 03:39 Shaella wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:36 TheEmulator wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:35 Shaella wrote:
Or you're just naturally good like me

Speaking of dunning-Krueger...

jk ilu I'm sorry for being mean.

What? I'm actually 4k without trying

With zero dedication to dota i'm in the top 1% of players that is pretty fucking disgusting.

i'm sure there's dedicated players out there that are far more terrible

like i'm not claiming i'm the best player ever of all time, and i completely lack the dedication to climb. So.


being 4k w/o trying isn't that hard. i'm more impressed by the people that put in minimal effort and are 5k.

I'm just saying, there's probably 2k players that are dedicated to this game and thats funny.

My father loves to fly and repair planes, but isn't an ace pilot. Whats your point? You looking down on people because you a more naturally talented than them?

Yes. But only because its dota.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
March 31 2015 18:47 GMT
#23234
On April 01 2015 03:45 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 03:41 Shaella wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:39 Comeh wrote:
wow mods can use twitch emotes?

What is this BULLSHIT Ka...

nevermind.
On April 01 2015 03:39 Shaella wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:36 TheEmulator wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:35 Shaella wrote:
Or you're just naturally good like me

Speaking of dunning-Krueger...

jk ilu I'm sorry for being mean.

What? I'm actually 4k without trying

With zero dedication to dota i'm in the top 1% of players that is pretty fucking disgusting.

i'm sure there's dedicated players out there that are far more terrible

like i'm not claiming i'm the best player ever of all time, and i completely lack the dedication to climb. So.


being 4k w/o trying isn't that hard. i'm more impressed by the people that put in minimal effort and are 5k.

I'm just saying, there's probably 2k players that are dedicated to this game and thats funny.

My father loves to fly and repair planes, but isn't an ace pilot. Whats your point? You looking down on people because you a more naturally talented than them?

TL/LD is in general (actually a lot of the internet is) a fairly elitist community where the majority of people in it look down on people lesser than them

Unfortunately.
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ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
March 31 2015 18:48 GMT
#23235
On April 01 2015 03:46 Comeh wrote:
I'm pretty much convinced most people can be 4k if they approach the game from the right way / learn to learn.

I'm pretty convinced everyone can be 5k if they are dedicated and approach the game from the right way / learn to learn.

im convinced most ppl can be 6k if they stick to one hero only
"mmr is a social construct" - tumblr
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44289 Posts
March 31 2015 18:48 GMT
#23236
On April 01 2015 03:47 TheEmulator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 03:45 Plansix wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:41 Shaella wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:39 Comeh wrote:
wow mods can use twitch emotes?

What is this BULLSHIT Ka...

nevermind.
On April 01 2015 03:39 Shaella wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:36 TheEmulator wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:35 Shaella wrote:
Or you're just naturally good like me

Speaking of dunning-Krueger...

jk ilu I'm sorry for being mean.

What? I'm actually 4k without trying

With zero dedication to dota i'm in the top 1% of players that is pretty fucking disgusting.

i'm sure there's dedicated players out there that are far more terrible

like i'm not claiming i'm the best player ever of all time, and i completely lack the dedication to climb. So.


being 4k w/o trying isn't that hard. i'm more impressed by the people that put in minimal effort and are 5k.

I'm just saying, there's probably 2k players that are dedicated to this game and thats funny.

My father loves to fly and repair planes, but isn't an ace pilot. Whats your point? You looking down on people because you a more naturally talented than them?

TL/LD is in general (actually a lot of the internet is) a fairly elitist community where the majority of people in it look down on people lesser than them

Unfortunately.


Like the anime community with the everyone other than me has shittaste

except that's true .. all of you have shit taste if you don't like the same anime as me
this is a quote
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
March 31 2015 18:49 GMT
#23237
On April 01 2015 03:48 ChunderBoy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 03:46 Comeh wrote:
I'm pretty much convinced most people can be 4k if they approach the game from the right way / learn to learn.

I'm pretty convinced everyone can be 5k if they are dedicated and approach the game from the right way / learn to learn.

im convinced most ppl can be 6k if they stick to one hero only

These posts are actually 100% accurate in every way.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
March 31 2015 18:49 GMT
#23238
On April 01 2015 03:48 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 03:47 TheEmulator wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:45 Plansix wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:41 Shaella wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:39 Comeh wrote:
wow mods can use twitch emotes?

What is this BULLSHIT Ka...

nevermind.
On April 01 2015 03:39 Shaella wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:36 TheEmulator wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:35 Shaella wrote:
Or you're just naturally good like me

Speaking of dunning-Krueger...

jk ilu I'm sorry for being mean.

What? I'm actually 4k without trying

With zero dedication to dota i'm in the top 1% of players that is pretty fucking disgusting.

i'm sure there's dedicated players out there that are far more terrible

like i'm not claiming i'm the best player ever of all time, and i completely lack the dedication to climb. So.


being 4k w/o trying isn't that hard. i'm more impressed by the people that put in minimal effort and are 5k.

I'm just saying, there's probably 2k players that are dedicated to this game and thats funny.

My father loves to fly and repair planes, but isn't an ace pilot. Whats your point? You looking down on people because you a more naturally talented than them?

TL/LD is in general (actually a lot of the internet is) a fairly elitist community where the majority of people in it look down on people lesser than them

Unfortunately.


Like the anime community with the everyone other than me has shittaste

except that's true .. all of you have shit taste if you don't like the same anime as me

Yeah Rin sucks. How can you see her as #1 you must be a 70 IQ pleb nooblord.

Saber #1
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
March 31 2015 18:49 GMT
#23239
On April 01 2015 03:48 ChunderBoy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 03:46 Comeh wrote:
I'm pretty much convinced most people can be 4k if they approach the game from the right way / learn to learn.

I'm pretty convinced everyone can be 5k if they are dedicated and approach the game from the right way / learn to learn.

im convinced most ppl can be 6k if they stick to one hero only

There's plenty of cases where this is true on the EU / NA Ladders.
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ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
March 31 2015 18:49 GMT
#23240
On April 01 2015 03:48 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 03:47 TheEmulator wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:45 Plansix wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:41 Shaella wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:39 Comeh wrote:
wow mods can use twitch emotes?

What is this BULLSHIT Ka...

nevermind.
On April 01 2015 03:39 Shaella wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:36 TheEmulator wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:35 Shaella wrote:
Or you're just naturally good like me

Speaking of dunning-Krueger...

jk ilu I'm sorry for being mean.

What? I'm actually 4k without trying

With zero dedication to dota i'm in the top 1% of players that is pretty fucking disgusting.

i'm sure there's dedicated players out there that are far more terrible

like i'm not claiming i'm the best player ever of all time, and i completely lack the dedication to climb. So.


being 4k w/o trying isn't that hard. i'm more impressed by the people that put in minimal effort and are 5k.

I'm just saying, there's probably 2k players that are dedicated to this game and thats funny.

My father loves to fly and repair planes, but isn't an ace pilot. Whats your point? You looking down on people because you a more naturally talented than them?

TL/LD is in general (actually a lot of the internet is) a fairly elitist community where the majority of people in it look down on people lesser than them

Unfortunately.


Like the anime community with the everyone other than me has shittaste

except that's true .. all of you have shit taste if you don't like the same anime as me

im the anti-christ of anime. boycotted since day1
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