On April 01 2015 02:46 goody153 wrote: what about singsing, rtz and dendi ? they usually have more stream viewers than waga(not sure about donations though)
They receive no where near the same amount of subs/donations as waga. And the stream viewer numbers really aren't that much higher on average. Usually once waga is on for a few hours he has like 5-10k right? Anyway waga has a sub counter on the top right everyday and I always see it at like 20-40+. He just started today and it's already 1 sub, lol.
Not to mention the constant stream of donation messages coming in. He's definitely making more than most pros/casters doing this.
idk man you'll see rtz/dendi/sing like close to 30k viewers sometimes and that's with many other streamers streaming sometimes even with waga and adb on the field
but idk if any of them outside gets a lot of subs
i think it's pretty pointless either way to compare dota 2 twitch culture to the rest of the site it's only been a recent thing where people have started accepting donations and thanking people for subs. I'm not sure if this is a good thing or not because there's always been some kind of weird stigma against 'selling out' in dota, but monetizing viewers with donations is kind of a grey area for me
I think its fine. Its like street performers or bands when they accept donations after a live set. Twitch is more like live performance that it is a regular show and people are just learning how cash in on that.
it's not like street performers at all tho. superficially it is, but there's not as much pandering and that's where I have a problem with it half the time someone donates it's so that they have a bit of e-fame or gain a bit of cred with the streamer him/herself. idk i feel like there's such a disconnect between donating and actually empathize with/appreciate the streamer with what he/she is trying to do.
on another note, I'm not sure why disingenuous ingratiating shit like this is such a turnoff to me when I work in finance maybe I chose the wrong field or smth
On April 01 2015 03:15 Sn0_Man wrote: didn't chu leave hon for LoL, get top 1 ladder NA in like a month, then went back to hon and is now irrelevant in all 3 scenes at once? that guy was considered a god at hon for a while rofl.
he was carried by pros apparently then he tried switching back to hon and he wasn't godly anymore, and later tried switching to dota and he was like 4.5k mmr
idk what he's doing nowadays, last time i saw him stream was like 6+ months ago.
On April 01 2015 03:30 teddyoojo wrote: i have literally never played an instrument in my life i have not even played the obligatory flute as a child
The instrument everyone plays here in elementary is the recorder, an awful, high-pitched musical version of Stalin, Hitler, Mao Zedong and Pol Pot combined. I think that alone turned off so many kids from taking music further.
you mean this instrument?
Biblethump
RTZ/Fear stream anthem forever remembered.
User was warned for this post
i cant even tell if this was a legitimate warn or if emu edited it in himself as an ironic joke
o u actually warned yourself based emu am i following u back on twitter
On April 01 2015 03:39 Comeh wrote: wow mods can use twitch emotes?
What is this BULLSHIT Ka...
nevermind.
On April 01 2015 03:39 Shaella wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:36 TheEmulator wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:35 Shaella wrote: Or you're just naturally good like me
Speaking of dunning-Krueger...
jk ilu I'm sorry for being mean.
What? I'm actually 4k without trying
With zero dedication to dota i'm in the top 1% of players that is pretty fucking disgusting.
i'm sure there's dedicated players out there that are far more terrible
like i'm not claiming i'm the best player ever of all time, and i completely lack the dedication to climb. So.
being 4k w/o trying isn't that hard. i'm more impressed by the people that put in minimal effort and are 5k.
I'm just saying, there's probably 2k players that are dedicated to this game and thats funny.
I'd imagine most of the people in that bracket either don't play / follow the game much, or its their first competitive game they've tried playing or game at this difficulty.
One day i'll be inspired to go up to 5.5k, but that seems like a lot of work to improve that much.
On April 01 2015 03:30 teddyoojo wrote: i have literally never played an instrument in my life i have not even played the obligatory flute as a child
The instrument everyone plays here in elementary is the recorder, an awful, high-pitched musical version of Stalin, Hitler, Mao Zedong and Pol Pot combined. I think that alone turned off so many kids from taking music further.
On April 01 2015 03:39 Comeh wrote: wow mods can use twitch emotes?
What is this BULLSHIT Ka...
nevermind.
On April 01 2015 03:39 Shaella wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:36 TheEmulator wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:35 Shaella wrote: Or you're just naturally good like me
Speaking of dunning-Krueger...
jk ilu I'm sorry for being mean.
What? I'm actually 4k without trying
With zero dedication to dota i'm in the top 1% of players that is pretty fucking disgusting.
i'm sure there's dedicated players out there that are far more terrible
like i'm not claiming i'm the best player ever of all time, and i completely lack the dedication to climb. So.
being 4k w/o trying isn't that hard. i'm more impressed by the people that put in minimal effort and are 5k.
I'm just saying, there's probably 2k players that are dedicated to this game and thats funny.
I mean I know some people that have like 3000-4000 games played and are still 2k or low 3k MMR. I know a Meepo player with thousands of games played who's barely 3k (sorry Pholon)
On April 01 2015 03:39 Comeh wrote: wow mods can use twitch emotes?
What is this BULLSHIT Ka...
nevermind.
On April 01 2015 03:39 Shaella wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:36 TheEmulator wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:35 Shaella wrote: Or you're just naturally good like me
Speaking of dunning-Krueger...
jk ilu I'm sorry for being mean.
What? I'm actually 4k without trying
With zero dedication to dota i'm in the top 1% of players that is pretty fucking disgusting.
i'm sure there's dedicated players out there that are far more terrible
like i'm not claiming i'm the best player ever of all time, and i completely lack the dedication to climb. So.
being 4k w/o trying isn't that hard. i'm more impressed by the people that put in minimal effort and are 5k.
I'm just saying, there's probably 2k players that are dedicated to this game and thats funny.
I'd imagine most of the people in that bracket either don't play / follow the game much, or its their first competitive game they've tried playing or game at this difficulty.
One day i'll be inspired to go up to 5.5k, but that seems like a lot of work to improve that much.
i noticed that most of my irl friends who are 2k or something awful like that were mostly console gamers who discovered that the pc had more than just a web browser
On April 01 2015 03:39 Comeh wrote: wow mods can use twitch emotes?
What is this BULLSHIT Ka...
nevermind.
On April 01 2015 03:39 Shaella wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:36 TheEmulator wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:35 Shaella wrote: Or you're just naturally good like me
Speaking of dunning-Krueger...
jk ilu I'm sorry for being mean.
What? I'm actually 4k without trying
With zero dedication to dota i'm in the top 1% of players that is pretty fucking disgusting.
i'm sure there's dedicated players out there that are far more terrible
like i'm not claiming i'm the best player ever of all time, and i completely lack the dedication to climb. So.
being 4k w/o trying isn't that hard. i'm more impressed by the people that put in minimal effort and are 5k.
I'm just saying, there's probably 2k players that are dedicated to this game and thats funny.
My father loves to fly and repair planes, but isn't an ace pilot. Whats your point? You looking down on people because you a more naturally talented than them?
On April 01 2015 03:29 Plansix wrote: Further confirming by theory that playing musical instruments makes you better at games like Dota.
I think the skill of learning to dedicate yourself to getting good at things you enjoy is what's important. So it's not really about being a musician it's about understanding what it takes to improve at things, etc.
nice post emu.
lots of noobers of the world downplay the effort talented people put into things. they diminish the countless hours that person has put in to learning their instrument, craft, game, whatever and just assume its some magical inherent skill. Also to be clear for GD plebs, I'm not saying there isn't such thing as talent or a varying spectrum of inherent skill for any task but generally speaking the best of X, put in a lot more effort than anyone else and that shouldn't be so quickly discarded all the time.
On April 01 2015 03:39 Comeh wrote: wow mods can use twitch emotes?
What is this BULLSHIT Ka...
nevermind.
On April 01 2015 03:39 Shaella wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:36 TheEmulator wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:35 Shaella wrote: Or you're just naturally good like me
Speaking of dunning-Krueger...
jk ilu I'm sorry for being mean.
What? I'm actually 4k without trying
With zero dedication to dota i'm in the top 1% of players that is pretty fucking disgusting.
i'm sure there's dedicated players out there that are far more terrible
like i'm not claiming i'm the best player ever of all time, and i completely lack the dedication to climb. So.
being 4k w/o trying isn't that hard. i'm more impressed by the people that put in minimal effort and are 5k.
I'm just saying, there's probably 2k players that are dedicated to this game and thats funny.
My father loves to fly and repair planes, but isn't an ace pilot. Whats your point? You looking down on people because you a more naturally talented than them?
On April 01 2015 03:39 Comeh wrote: wow mods can use twitch emotes?
What is this BULLSHIT Ka...
nevermind.
On April 01 2015 03:39 Shaella wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:36 TheEmulator wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:35 Shaella wrote: Or you're just naturally good like me
Speaking of dunning-Krueger...
jk ilu I'm sorry for being mean.
What? I'm actually 4k without trying
With zero dedication to dota i'm in the top 1% of players that is pretty fucking disgusting.
i'm sure there's dedicated players out there that are far more terrible
like i'm not claiming i'm the best player ever of all time, and i completely lack the dedication to climb. So.
being 4k w/o trying isn't that hard. i'm more impressed by the people that put in minimal effort and are 5k.
I'm just saying, there's probably 2k players that are dedicated to this game and thats funny.
My father loves to fly and repair planes, but isn't an ace pilot. Whats your point? You looking down on people because you a more naturally talented than them?
TL/LD is in general (actually a lot of the internet is) a fairly elitist community where the majority of people in it look down on people lesser than them
On April 01 2015 03:39 Comeh wrote: wow mods can use twitch emotes?
What is this BULLSHIT Ka...
nevermind.
On April 01 2015 03:39 Shaella wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:36 TheEmulator wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:35 Shaella wrote: Or you're just naturally good like me
Speaking of dunning-Krueger...
jk ilu I'm sorry for being mean.
What? I'm actually 4k without trying
With zero dedication to dota i'm in the top 1% of players that is pretty fucking disgusting.
i'm sure there's dedicated players out there that are far more terrible
like i'm not claiming i'm the best player ever of all time, and i completely lack the dedication to climb. So.
being 4k w/o trying isn't that hard. i'm more impressed by the people that put in minimal effort and are 5k.
I'm just saying, there's probably 2k players that are dedicated to this game and thats funny.
My father loves to fly and repair planes, but isn't an ace pilot. Whats your point? You looking down on people because you a more naturally talented than them?
TL/LD is in general (actually a lot of the internet is) a fairly elitist community where the majority of people in it look down on people lesser than them
Unfortunately.
Like the anime community with the everyone other than me has shittaste
except that's true .. all of you have shit taste if you don't like the same anime as me
On April 01 2015 03:39 Comeh wrote: wow mods can use twitch emotes?
What is this BULLSHIT Ka...
nevermind.
On April 01 2015 03:39 Shaella wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:36 TheEmulator wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:35 Shaella wrote: Or you're just naturally good like me
Speaking of dunning-Krueger...
jk ilu I'm sorry for being mean.
What? I'm actually 4k without trying
With zero dedication to dota i'm in the top 1% of players that is pretty fucking disgusting.
i'm sure there's dedicated players out there that are far more terrible
like i'm not claiming i'm the best player ever of all time, and i completely lack the dedication to climb. So.
being 4k w/o trying isn't that hard. i'm more impressed by the people that put in minimal effort and are 5k.
I'm just saying, there's probably 2k players that are dedicated to this game and thats funny.
My father loves to fly and repair planes, but isn't an ace pilot. Whats your point? You looking down on people because you a more naturally talented than them?
TL/LD is in general (actually a lot of the internet is) a fairly elitist community where the majority of people in it look down on people lesser than them
Unfortunately.
Like the anime community with the everyone other than me has shittaste
except that's true .. all of you have shit taste if you don't like the same anime as me
Yeah Rin sucks. How can you see her as #1 you must be a 70 IQ pleb nooblord.
On April 01 2015 03:39 Comeh wrote: wow mods can use twitch emotes?
What is this BULLSHIT Ka...
nevermind.
On April 01 2015 03:39 Shaella wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:36 TheEmulator wrote:
On April 01 2015 03:35 Shaella wrote: Or you're just naturally good like me
Speaking of dunning-Krueger...
jk ilu I'm sorry for being mean.
What? I'm actually 4k without trying
With zero dedication to dota i'm in the top 1% of players that is pretty fucking disgusting.
i'm sure there's dedicated players out there that are far more terrible
like i'm not claiming i'm the best player ever of all time, and i completely lack the dedication to climb. So.
being 4k w/o trying isn't that hard. i'm more impressed by the people that put in minimal effort and are 5k.
I'm just saying, there's probably 2k players that are dedicated to this game and thats funny.
My father loves to fly and repair planes, but isn't an ace pilot. Whats your point? You looking down on people because you a more naturally talented than them?
TL/LD is in general (actually a lot of the internet is) a fairly elitist community where the majority of people in it look down on people lesser than them
Unfortunately.
Like the anime community with the everyone other than me has shittaste
except that's true .. all of you have shit taste if you don't like the same anime as me