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Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
February 11 2020 10:49 GMT
#204761
Nah man, thats 30€ down the drain. I can't stick to single player games at all.
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7736 Posts
February 11 2020 10:59 GMT
#204762
On February 11 2020 06:02 PhoenixVoid wrote:
I know that a Polish king led the largest cavalry charge in history to defeat the Ottomans and saved Vienna, and they were a great power when in the commonwealth with Lithuania. Then Sweden did the Deluge on them, Russia was a jerk, France gave them some independence, and they produced people like Marie Curie and Joseph Conrad.

"Russia was a jerk" is a huuuuge understatement, and France rather made a rump client state to exploit for money and recruits (of whom thousands upon thousands later died in Napoleon's ill-advised invasion of Russia). Poland has been kicked around by neighbours and great powers for the last ~300 years, but hey, despite their best efforts we're still here
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
February 11 2020 14:12 GMT
#204763
Original lineup of rage against the machine is going on tour with run the jewels. Hot damn
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7736 Posts
February 11 2020 16:16 GMT
#204764
I used to be a huge fan of RATM back in the day so that's pretty cool
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
February 11 2020 16:51 GMT
#204765
I don't know what city your in, but theyr playing Krakow in September
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
February 11 2020 16:58 GMT
#204766
About to buy my first car tomorrow (most likely)

My NA friends insist the deprecation makes it not worth to buy a new car, but the danish car market is completely different from the NA market so I think I'm sticking with my decision lol
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
February 11 2020 17:10 GMT
#204767
Depending on your driving skills this can turn out funky.
Also I'd wager that driving in winter is not the easiest to start with one's first car :-D

The first car of a friend was cheaper than my bike though.
Also depending on the intended use (frequency and purpose) as well as the general quality of used car marked and my (lacking) knowledge of car mechanics I can imagine enough reasons for a new one.
passive quaranstream fan
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
February 11 2020 17:10 GMT
#204768
On February 12 2020 01:58 Unleashing wrote:
About to buy my first car tomorrow (most likely)

My NA friends insist the deprecation makes it not worth to buy a new car, but the danish car market is completely different from the NA market so I think I'm sticking with my decision lol

Doubt there is any market where buying a new car as private person is worth it. Still, have fun with it!
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
gaymon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1023 Posts
February 11 2020 17:24 GMT
#204769
In germany its 100% not worth it to buy a new car aswell, i wonder what makes it worth it in denmark :thinking:
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-11 17:28:52
February 11 2020 17:28 GMT
#204770
Cant you bike across all of Denmark in like 45 minutes what do you need a car for
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7736 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-11 17:30:26
February 11 2020 17:29 GMT
#204771
On February 12 2020 01:51 PassiveAce wrote:
I don't know what city your in, but theyr playing Krakow in September

damn, I need to keep an eye out for tickets

I'm in Warsaw btw
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-11 17:45:54
February 11 2020 17:40 GMT
#204772
On February 12 2020 02:10 Artisreal wrote:
Depending on your driving skills this can turn out funky.
Also I'd wager that driving in winter is not the easiest to start with one's first car :-D

The first car of a friend was cheaper than my bike though.
Also depending on the intended use (frequency and purpose) as well as the general quality of used car marked and my (lacking) knowledge of car mechanics I can imagine enough reasons for a new one.

Uh, I don't see why my driving skills would make things turn out funky?
And I don't get your winter comment. We get no snow and no ice.


On February 12 2020 02:10 Slomo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2020 01:58 Unleashing wrote:
About to buy my first car tomorrow (most likely)

My NA friends insist the deprecation makes it not worth to buy a new car, but the danish car market is completely different from the NA market so I think I'm sticking with my decision lol

Doubt there is any market where buying a new car as private person is worth it. Still, have fun with it!

Denmark along with Norway has the most expensive used cars in the world last I checked. If I wanted an even remotely similar car to what I'm getting I'd be paying 55~65k DKK even for a 5~ year old car that's going to cost me 100k DKK new.

And by buying new I get access to a bunch of consumer protections that you don't have on used cars. I went over the economics of this and the very minimal amount of value I might be missing out on are gained in consumer protections easily. If you have the money to buy it new it's fairly worth it.

Standard VAT rate in Denmark is 25% and ontop of that you have what's called a registration fee that applies to cars which is 85%, meaning you end up paying 110% ontop of its price in taxes/fees when you buy a car. This has resulted in a very robust used car market in Denmark where used cars retain a lot of their value and also means that buying a used car isn't really cheap if you want a decent car.

Sure I could buy a bare-minimum barebones car for a mediocre driving experience for cheap. But why would I?

On February 12 2020 02:24 gaymon wrote:
In germany its 100% not worth it to buy a new car aswell, i wonder what makes it worth it in denmark :thinking:

110% tax/fee rates, lol. Actually might be higher if I'm not wrong, I think I read it was 150% now, used to be 180%

As an example, a Toyota Aygo from 2012 is still worth 35'000 DKK. Equivalent to around 4'700 euro. (Which might have air conditioning as its fanciest feature)
I'm going to get a completely new one with a variety of features and gadgets for 12'700 Euros + added consumer protections.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-11 18:14:08
February 11 2020 18:12 GMT
#204773
No snow or ice? Want expecting that. Was pretty cold albeit dry when I was in Copenhagen in 2014.

Driving in snow sucks.


You could buy a car in Germany an register it? Does the tax apply to rrp or actual price?
passive quaranstream fan
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
February 11 2020 18:36 GMT
#204774
You gotta pay the registration fees if you import a car. No money to be saved lol. Often more expensive to try and import them, they've thought of that obviously.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-11 19:00:30
February 11 2020 18:57 GMT
#204775
The thing about buying a new car is that it can be a good idea financially even in america. It depends on a lot, obviously. The reason to do it is twofold - the warranties and you know exactly what has been done to the car. A used car is always cheaper upfront, but a shitty used car can eat tons of money in repairs. On average I'd say the used car is cheaper, but a new car generally has no unexpected costs. Pretty much any used car needs some repairs so that's a bit of time too. My understanding is that good used cars have been rising in price for a few years as well, not being much of a saving.

I worked at Enterprise and this was why they bought new cars for their rental service. Whenever a car got a few hundred miles before the warranty ended they'd sell it to a dealer.
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
February 11 2020 19:30 GMT
#204776
On February 12 2020 03:57 Nevuk wrote:
The thing about buying a new car is that it can be a good idea financially even in america. It depends on a lot, obviously. The reason to do it is twofold - the warranties and you know exactly what has been done to the car. A used car is always cheaper upfront, but a shitty used car can eat tons of money in repairs. On average I'd say the used car is cheaper, but a new car generally has no unexpected costs. Pretty much any used car needs some repairs so that's a bit of time too. My understanding is that good used cars have been rising in price for a few years as well, not being much of a saving.

I worked at Enterprise and this was why they bought new cars for their rental service. Whenever a car got a few hundred miles before the warranty ended they'd sell it to a dealer.

Always thought it was because they were prohibited to rent cars with more than X years.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-11 20:10:26
February 11 2020 20:06 GMT
#204777
On February 12 2020 04:30 Pontual wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2020 03:57 Nevuk wrote:
The thing about buying a new car is that it can be a good idea financially even in america. It depends on a lot, obviously. The reason to do it is twofold - the warranties and you know exactly what has been done to the car. A used car is always cheaper upfront, but a shitty used car can eat tons of money in repairs. On average I'd say the used car is cheaper, but a new car generally has no unexpected costs. Pretty much any used car needs some repairs so that's a bit of time too. My understanding is that good used cars have been rising in price for a few years as well, not being much of a saving.

I worked at Enterprise and this was why they bought new cars for their rental service. Whenever a car got a few hundred miles before the warranty ended they'd sell it to a dealer.

Always thought it was because they were prohibited to rent cars with more than X years.

Maybe depending on the region/country. Definitely wasn't why they did it where I worked. If it was, they'd have kept renting them after the warranty (as those are usually up within 15-60k miles depending on brand, which was occasionally less than a years worth of use). Quick google brings up nothing about the limit in the US. I wouldn't be surprised if there was one, I'd just be surprised if it was like, 18 months which was the average for how long they kept them. (We very occasionally had a 2014 in 2018, but those were always cars that people hated to drive so had very low mileage).

Every day we had to take 10-12 cars over to get their tires fixed, I can only imagine what it would have been like with older cars (there were a few every day going to a dealer to get fixed or for recalls, but it wasn't like 3-5% of all cars in the lot like it was for tires). Every time they take something to the shop it costs money to have people drop it off and pick it up.
Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
February 11 2020 20:28 GMT
#204778
On February 11 2020 03:55 TheEmulator wrote:
Am I the only person who has never even heard of this movie until now? Feel like I'm usually somewhat in the loop of what's popular, but I legit can't remember ever hearing about this.

I lived in Korea when it was released there and because it's Song Kang-ho it did well and people enjoyed it but I didn't get the feeling the koreans thought it was crazy exceptional. They enjoyed it though.

It's funny how in all the korean articles Song Kang-ho and Bong Joon-ho is mentioned together but in all the western articles it's always just Bong.

Anyway when it first won the Cannes award I was pleasantly surprised to see some Korean recognition. Then it got screened here in cinemas in my small town of like 60 000 inhabitants and I felt like they made something special.

It's a great movie, and very well shot. But it also has a different pacing and story and is very unpredictable which was very enjoyable.

The less you know about the movie before you watch it the better. So you should see it before spoiling yourself too much.
Favorite players: Gh and Zai
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-11 20:31:01
February 11 2020 20:30 GMT
#204779
I've heard praise only for the movie.
Guess I'll go watch it. It's always in native korean and subbed, is it?
passive quaranstream fan
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
February 11 2020 21:40 GMT
#204780
subs > dubs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
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