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Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
August 05 2019 23:21 GMT
#202141
I mean, thanos was wrong but the Avengers brought back 3 billions of people in a second

It's been 5 years... How are they supposed to live? How does the world economy accommodate for that amount of people without crushing down? If they appear where they were ? Would not they die if they were on a soon to happen crash for example?

Idk lol
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2650 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-06 01:30:57
August 06 2019 01:16 GMT
#202142
Yeh the whole movie felt like it was kinda painted into a plot corner by the events of infinity war, rather than cohesively built as a collective unit.

Personally, I was hoping for something along the lines of Loki being 'given' all of the infinity stones as an agent of chaos to work against Thanos' sense of order and justice or something, but instead we got people dying for no reason because we have fucking time travel so noone actually needs to die.

Like seriously. The whole soul stone thing. Here's how it goes. One of them gives the other their Pim juice (pip cell? Plot time travel battery) and then kills themselves. The other goes back to 5 minutes before the one gives the other their time battery, shows them that they already have the soulstone, and then they both use their remaining time batteries to go back to their normal timeline.

By their own rules, you create one fissured timeline in which one of the two of them dies and then the other goes back and truncates that timeline, creating a different fissure where they leave that timeline before either of them fucking die. Basically at any point in time that a person is in posession of a time battery, its like a savestate on their life - you can just go back to that point in time and take them from that moment to whatever other moment.

But you know instead someone dies and has to be dead permanently or something.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
August 06 2019 01:44 GMT
#202143
I think this is why involving time travel in any story is such a risk, because it asks so many more questions about consistency, rules and impact. Really churns the story into too many knots and illogical moments if done improperly.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2650 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-06 02:14:44
August 06 2019 02:13 GMT
#202144
Yeh. You basically need to implement real-world nuclear arms level restrictions on the thing immediately so as to render it unuseable, or it just fucks everything up.

Like, in the Avengers now its gonna feel really flat if "Well lets just time travel" isn't the solution to all problems, similar to how in Star Wars "Well let's just send an asteroid at light speed at them" feels like it would make a death star look like a child's toy by comparison of violent solutions.

The only time the concept of the christian god was sufficiently explained to me was when someone suggested that god was just the first human to achieve time travel, thus allowing themselves to be everywhere and omnipresent and invisibly manipulating everything. Of course I don't subscribe to that as a religion, but it made christianity sci-fi which is pretty awesome imo.
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7733 Posts
August 06 2019 07:02 GMT
#202145
I felt that using time travel in Endgame was such a lazy way to wrap up the story, it felt like an easy way out. And also what you guys said, it made a ton of plot holes and them bringing back all those people would create a ton of problems. I mean the spectacle was great, but all in all the movie was lacking something special.
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28098 Posts
August 06 2019 07:29 GMT
#202146
Damn this just reminded me that I still need to watch endgame.
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Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-06 08:33:20
August 06 2019 08:32 GMT
#202147
Can’t believe TI is already upon us. First time in 9 years I’m not hyped or excited 😕

As an OG fan I truly believe TI4 HUB, Frankfurt Majors and TI8 were the peaks of Dota for me. It’s gonna be so hard to beat those iconic moments.

“Don’t be sad that it ended, be happy that it happened..”
Skol
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
August 06 2019 10:04 GMT
#202148
OK, I bought a 1 yr.old Pixel 2 XL. Let's see whether I keep it instead of the mate 10 pro or give it to my partner.

Opinions?
passive quaranstream fan
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
August 06 2019 12:12 GMT
#202149
On August 06 2019 17:32 Emnjay808 wrote:
Can’t believe TI is already upon us. First time in 9 years I’m not hyped or excited 😕

As an OG fan I truly believe TI4 HUB, Frankfurt Majors and TI8 were the peaks of Dota for me. It’s gonna be so hard to beat those iconic moments.

“Don’t be sad that it ended, be happy that it happened..”

I feel the same, but I also felt the similarly last year. I for me the Dota2 hype ended after TI7, since then it has been a decline in quality. TI8 being the big exception, bur probably only because OG won it.

I can't pinpoint whats missing. But the Dota2 pro scene just feels less. Less organic? Less tournaments? Less money (outside of TI)? Less interactive? Maybe it's just because I stopped playing.
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
August 06 2019 14:02 GMT
#202150
the game itself just doesn't feel fun, and it doesn't help that it feels valve make minimal effort to keep it going.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
August 06 2019 14:44 GMT
#202151
its just the fact that this game is dead outside of russia

pretty much what ive been preaching for the last 5 years has happened
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
August 06 2019 14:51 GMT
#202152
dota still heaps of fun to watch if it's a good game imo
passive quaranstream fan
gaymon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1023 Posts
August 06 2019 14:57 GMT
#202153
whats the point of being one of the 15213421 dedgamelolpeople ?
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7733 Posts
August 06 2019 15:52 GMT
#202154
I get plenty of non-Russians in my games, so maybe not that dead after all
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Maverick_2009
Profile Joined December 2014
Somewhere2002 Posts
August 06 2019 16:11 GMT
#202155
game is stale, idk about dead, but im so bored it feels like the same meta for the last year and a half and the only thing that's really changed is which heroes stand at the top
https://www.twitch.tv/deso_739
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6597 Posts
August 06 2019 16:25 GMT
#202156
I sort of wish jungling was viable again just so we could break up this 2-1-2 lol
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
August 06 2019 16:34 GMT
#202157
Been more hyped about CS:GO more than anything now as far as e-sports go. Dota or TI doesn't incite much excitement as it used to now that it's gone through its motions, and the scene is all about propping up TI only pretty much. Not to mention it's in Shanghai this year, which means I'll be missing most of the show.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
August 06 2019 17:10 GMT
#202158
I havent cut onions in like, two months, and it's fucking agonising.

This is how watching american politics as a citizen must be like.
passive quaranstream fan
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-06 17:12:55
August 06 2019 17:12 GMT
#202159
On August 07 2019 02:10 Artisreal wrote:
I havent cut onions in like, two months, and it's fucking agonising.

This is how watching american politics as a citizen must be like.

Pro-tip: Drink some water and keep a gulp in your mouth while cutting onions.
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
August 06 2019 17:35 GMT
#202160
I've tried that. Can't successfully do it, though I've heard it does actually help.
passive quaranstream fan
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