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PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7733 Posts
July 29 2019 15:51 GMT
#202041
probably for the same reason Pudge is in it
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-29 22:09:28
July 29 2019 22:07 GMT
#202042
Finished my first run of Xenoblade 2. The story felt ... oddly paced. The rest of the game was definitely better than xenoblade 1, but I prefer XB1's story. The last 4 chapters felt much more like a normal xeno-game than the first 6 did.
It's kind of a mess of a game, but it's a lot of fun.

I didn't max everything, or even close, but I did a fair amount. I had like 180 hours on the save file, but prob 60 of those are from merc missions where I was afk. I got all but one of the random blades, and since there are some ng+ exclusive ones decided to just roll for it there.

I have no idea why they changed the name of like, every character from japanese to English. The English names are much deeper in meaning, which gives a different sort of impression. I can understand the occasional name change when it would sound super weird to westerners, but most of these were clearly not done for that reason. (Example, a character is named Hikari in japanese, which means just... light. In English, they are named Mythra, which is the zoroastrian god of light).

Some of them are related, others are... not. Byakko/Dromarch? One means a white tiger (which the character is), the other is a typo for Dormarch, which is a welsh hound (apparently).

This doesn't bother me like it does some others, but I'd love to have heard what the localization meetings for the game sounded like.

Trying to decide if I want to do Xenoblade X , NG+, or the expansion campaign for XB2 now
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2650 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-30 04:36:00
July 30 2019 04:35 GMT
#202043
On July 30 2019 07:07 Nevuk wrote:
Finished my first run of Xenoblade 2. The story felt ... oddly paced. The rest of the game was definitely better than xenoblade 1, but I prefer XB1's story. The last 4 chapters felt much more like a normal xeno-game than the first 6 did.
It's kind of a mess of a game, but it's a lot of fun.

I didn't max everything, or even close, but I did a fair amount. I had like 180 hours on the save file, but prob 60 of those are from merc missions where I was afk. I got all but one of the random blades, and since there are some ng+ exclusive ones decided to just roll for it there.

I have no idea why they changed the name of like, every character from japanese to English. The English names are much deeper in meaning, which gives a different sort of impression. I can understand the occasional name change when it would sound super weird to westerners, but most of these were clearly not done for that reason. (Example, a character is named Hikari in japanese, which means just... light. In English, they are named Mythra, which is the zoroastrian god of light).

Some of them are related, others are... not. Byakko/Dromarch? One means a white tiger (which the character is), the other is a typo for Dormarch, which is a welsh hound (apparently).

This doesn't bother me like it does some others, but I'd love to have heard what the localization meetings for the game sounded like.

Trying to decide if I want to do Xenoblade X , NG+, or the expansion campaign for XB2 now


I'm curious what your final setups were? I'll share mine in spoilers for somewhat-obvious reasons

+ Show Spoiler +

I played with :
Nia as my controlled character, running Electra, Dromarch, and Kos-Mos / Azami.
Rex as my secondary, with Mythra/Pyra, Agate, and Gorg
Morag as my third, with Floren, Adenine, and Zenobia.

My strategy for most of the game was Electra/Dromarch/Azami giving me -very- clear control on Nia's health, which meant I could stack up orbs and drop to low% hp before a chain attack, which would allow Azami to do pretty absurd damage to basically anything.

Lategame / for superbosses I had Kos-Mos, who does less damage overall but is certainly sturdier than Azami.

I got gold chips off some large but unimpressive level 60 creatures (Zeoth Sepronds) and actually did all the endgame content using them on most of my blades (6/10 had gold chips equipped)

8/10 game overall though. Some of the super heavyhanded imagery in the last few chapters is intriguing and I wanted it to be more/deeper, but overall it was pretty satisfying.

Adenine was my favourite blade overall!
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
July 30 2019 07:15 GMT
#202044
What happened to that bodybuilding thread? I did a "bodybuilding" search and the most recent one is from 2006.

Im thinking of doing a cycle.
Skol
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
July 30 2019 09:14 GMT
#202045
Anyone else excited about TI? it is less than 3 weeks from now!

I am, especially since I've just so discovered that I'll be mostly free on the weekend of the finals and that I won't have to stay up until 3am like last year to watch it.
passive quaranstream fan
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
July 30 2019 09:18 GMT
#202046
Dunno, this dota season had almost 0 memorable moments for me, not really excited for TI either. But at least I can fuck up my sleep schedule as much as I want in August, so maybe the hype will catch up.
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7733 Posts
July 30 2019 09:57 GMT
#202047
I'm reasonably hyped for TI, enough to play dota again myself.
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
July 30 2019 10:23 GMT
#202048
On July 30 2019 18:57 PoulsenB wrote:
I'm reasonably hyped for TI, enough to play dota again myself.

I've bought 3 games for my Switch the other day. Using the 5 € digital store credit I've had left for some reason I can't piece together anymore.

  • The Way Remastered
  • Degrees of Separation
  • (I forgot)


Been playing The Way and I have to say that the joy-cons analog sticks are horribly inaccurate for the aiming of the game.
passive quaranstream fan
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
July 30 2019 10:54 GMT
#202049
First Time in 3 years where im not in vacation during ti
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
July 30 2019 12:37 GMT
#202050
On July 30 2019 13:35 Fleetfeet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2019 07:07 Nevuk wrote:
Finished my first run of Xenoblade 2. The story felt ... oddly paced. The rest of the game was definitely better than xenoblade 1, but I prefer XB1's story. The last 4 chapters felt much more like a normal xeno-game than the first 6 did.
It's kind of a mess of a game, but it's a lot of fun.

I didn't max everything, or even close, but I did a fair amount. I had like 180 hours on the save file, but prob 60 of those are from merc missions where I was afk. I got all but one of the random blades, and since there are some ng+ exclusive ones decided to just roll for it there.

I have no idea why they changed the name of like, every character from japanese to English. The English names are much deeper in meaning, which gives a different sort of impression. I can understand the occasional name change when it would sound super weird to westerners, but most of these were clearly not done for that reason. (Example, a character is named Hikari in japanese, which means just... light. In English, they are named Mythra, which is the zoroastrian god of light).

Some of them are related, others are... not. Byakko/Dromarch? One means a white tiger (which the character is), the other is a typo for Dormarch, which is a welsh hound (apparently).

This doesn't bother me like it does some others, but I'd love to have heard what the localization meetings for the game sounded like.

Trying to decide if I want to do Xenoblade X , NG+, or the expansion campaign for XB2 now


I'm curious what your final setups were? I'll share mine in spoilers for somewhat-obvious reasons

+ Show Spoiler +

I played with :
Nia as my controlled character, running Electra, Dromarch, and Kos-Mos / Azami.
Rex as my secondary, with Mythra/Pyra, Agate, and Gorg
Morag as my third, with Floren, Adenine, and Zenobia.

My strategy for most of the game was Electra/Dromarch/Azami giving me -very- clear control on Nia's health, which meant I could stack up orbs and drop to low% hp before a chain attack, which would allow Azami to do pretty absurd damage to basically anything.

Lategame / for superbosses I had Kos-Mos, who does less damage overall but is certainly sturdier than Azami.

I got gold chips off some large but unimpressive level 60 creatures (Zeoth Sepronds) and actually did all the endgame content using them on most of my blades (6/10 had gold chips equipped)

8/10 game overall though. Some of the super heavyhanded imagery in the last few chapters is intriguing and I wanted it to be more/deeper, but overall it was pretty satisfying.

Adenine was my favourite blade overall!

+ Show Spoiler +

Adenine was my last blade. Opened literally 95 legendary cores to get her. Also didn't have newt.

It depends on what I was trying to do.

For farming it was like this :
Rex: mythra, pandoria, roc .
Let's you do a full topple launch smash combo on him.
Nia: nim, kos-mos, varying third.
Crosette, Shiba,
Tora : obvious what his blades were. Treasure sensors and
Dark, fire, ice cores.

End game:
Rex:mythra, pandoria, elma
Nia: same as before but definitely crosette
Morag : Aegeaon, theory, Corbin

The best blades are Fiora, elma, corvin, poppi qtpie. They can outdo the aegis in damage and survivability.
Fiora is challenge mode or ng+ only though.

I farmed gold chips on vampire bride Marion, then like 75-85 on reeking Douglas, then the level 99 cow in torigoth.

People say Nia is the weakest driver, but I can't resist using her. She's also not so much weaker that it really matters outside of the hardest mode in challenges. (Zeke has 12 less ether, is way tankier, and has better animations)
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
July 30 2019 15:21 GMT
#202051
On July 30 2019 13:35 Fleetfeet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2019 07:07 Nevuk wrote:
Finished my first run of Xenoblade 2. The story felt ... oddly paced. The rest of the game was definitely better than xenoblade 1, but I prefer XB1's story. The last 4 chapters felt much more like a normal xeno-game than the first 6 did.
It's kind of a mess of a game, but it's a lot of fun.

I didn't max everything, or even close, but I did a fair amount. I had like 180 hours on the save file, but prob 60 of those are from merc missions where I was afk. I got all but one of the random blades, and since there are some ng+ exclusive ones decided to just roll for it there.

I have no idea why they changed the name of like, every character from japanese to English. The English names are much deeper in meaning, which gives a different sort of impression. I can understand the occasional name change when it would sound super weird to westerners, but most of these were clearly not done for that reason. (Example, a character is named Hikari in japanese, which means just... light. In English, they are named Mythra, which is the zoroastrian god of light).

Some of them are related, others are... not. Byakko/Dromarch? One means a white tiger (which the character is), the other is a typo for Dormarch, which is a welsh hound (apparently).

This doesn't bother me like it does some others, but I'd love to have heard what the localization meetings for the game sounded like.

Trying to decide if I want to do Xenoblade X , NG+, or the expansion campaign for XB2 now


I'm curious what your final setups were? I'll share mine in spoilers for somewhat-obvious reasons

+ Show Spoiler +

I played with :
Nia as my controlled character, running Electra, Dromarch, and Kos-Mos / Azami.
Rex as my secondary, with Mythra/Pyra, Agate, and Gorg
Morag as my third, with Floren, Adenine, and Zenobia.

My strategy for most of the game was Electra/Dromarch/Azami giving me -very- clear control on Nia's health, which meant I could stack up orbs and drop to low% hp before a chain attack, which would allow Azami to do pretty absurd damage to basically anything.

Lategame / for superbosses I had Kos-Mos, who does less damage overall but is certainly sturdier than Azami.

I got gold chips off some large but unimpressive level 60 creatures (Zeoth Sepronds) and actually did all the endgame content using them on most of my blades (6/10 had gold chips equipped)

8/10 game overall though. Some of the super heavyhanded imagery in the last few chapters is intriguing and I wanted it to be more/deeper, but overall it was pretty satisfying.

Adenine was my favourite blade overall!


Why Morag/Zenobia?

Zenobia is definetely Rex, between Mythra and the stupid amount of damage Zenobia can do you'll destroy mostly everything
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
July 30 2019 15:57 GMT
#202052
On July 31 2019 00:21 Faruko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2019 13:35 Fleetfeet wrote:
On July 30 2019 07:07 Nevuk wrote:
Finished my first run of Xenoblade 2. The story felt ... oddly paced. The rest of the game was definitely better than xenoblade 1, but I prefer XB1's story. The last 4 chapters felt much more like a normal xeno-game than the first 6 did.
It's kind of a mess of a game, but it's a lot of fun.

I didn't max everything, or even close, but I did a fair amount. I had like 180 hours on the save file, but prob 60 of those are from merc missions where I was afk. I got all but one of the random blades, and since there are some ng+ exclusive ones decided to just roll for it there.

I have no idea why they changed the name of like, every character from japanese to English. The English names are much deeper in meaning, which gives a different sort of impression. I can understand the occasional name change when it would sound super weird to westerners, but most of these were clearly not done for that reason. (Example, a character is named Hikari in japanese, which means just... light. In English, they are named Mythra, which is the zoroastrian god of light).

Some of them are related, others are... not. Byakko/Dromarch? One means a white tiger (which the character is), the other is a typo for Dormarch, which is a welsh hound (apparently).

This doesn't bother me like it does some others, but I'd love to have heard what the localization meetings for the game sounded like.

Trying to decide if I want to do Xenoblade X , NG+, or the expansion campaign for XB2 now


I'm curious what your final setups were? I'll share mine in spoilers for somewhat-obvious reasons

+ Show Spoiler +

I played with :
Nia as my controlled character, running Electra, Dromarch, and Kos-Mos / Azami.
Rex as my secondary, with Mythra/Pyra, Agate, and Gorg
Morag as my third, with Floren, Adenine, and Zenobia.

My strategy for most of the game was Electra/Dromarch/Azami giving me -very- clear control on Nia's health, which meant I could stack up orbs and drop to low% hp before a chain attack, which would allow Azami to do pretty absurd damage to basically anything.

Lategame / for superbosses I had Kos-Mos, who does less damage overall but is certainly sturdier than Azami.

I got gold chips off some large but unimpressive level 60 creatures (Zeoth Sepronds) and actually did all the endgame content using them on most of my blades (6/10 had gold chips equipped)

8/10 game overall though. Some of the super heavyhanded imagery in the last few chapters is intriguing and I wanted it to be more/deeper, but overall it was pretty satisfying.

Adenine was my favourite blade overall!


Why Morag/Zenobia?

Zenobia is definetely Rex, between Mythra and the stupid amount of damage Zenobia can do you'll destroy mostly everything
+ Show Spoiler +

If you aren't maining Rex there's no real need to put Zenobia on him as he won't be your topple/launch combo. Late game tanks are pretty useless (their aggro skills dont scale very well so they have to use damage to hold it)so most people build Morag for damage.

To use her as a tank vs super bosses or challenge mode you have to main her and stick with Corvin (or brighid if no dlc) and two +24% agi common blades that you never switch to.

But like, even the worst blades on their worst driver can stomp most super bosses on normal if they are maxed out with good chips and accessories. It isn't a very hard game.

Personally, I'm more shocked at azumi somehow out damaging kosmos. She was doing more DMG in chains than pnuema was for me on specials level 2 and 3.
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2650 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-30 18:15:43
July 30 2019 18:13 GMT
#202053
On July 31 2019 00:21 Faruko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2019 13:35 Fleetfeet wrote:
On July 30 2019 07:07 Nevuk wrote:
Finished my first run of Xenoblade 2. The story felt ... oddly paced. The rest of the game was definitely better than xenoblade 1, but I prefer XB1's story. The last 4 chapters felt much more like a normal xeno-game than the first 6 did.
It's kind of a mess of a game, but it's a lot of fun.

I didn't max everything, or even close, but I did a fair amount. I had like 180 hours on the save file, but prob 60 of those are from merc missions where I was afk. I got all but one of the random blades, and since there are some ng+ exclusive ones decided to just roll for it there.

I have no idea why they changed the name of like, every character from japanese to English. The English names are much deeper in meaning, which gives a different sort of impression. I can understand the occasional name change when it would sound super weird to westerners, but most of these were clearly not done for that reason. (Example, a character is named Hikari in japanese, which means just... light. In English, they are named Mythra, which is the zoroastrian god of light).

Some of them are related, others are... not. Byakko/Dromarch? One means a white tiger (which the character is), the other is a typo for Dormarch, which is a welsh hound (apparently).

This doesn't bother me like it does some others, but I'd love to have heard what the localization meetings for the game sounded like.

Trying to decide if I want to do Xenoblade X , NG+, or the expansion campaign for XB2 now


I'm curious what your final setups were? I'll share mine in spoilers for somewhat-obvious reasons

+ Show Spoiler +

I played with :
Nia as my controlled character, running Electra, Dromarch, and Kos-Mos / Azami.
Rex as my secondary, with Mythra/Pyra, Agate, and Gorg
Morag as my third, with Floren, Adenine, and Zenobia.

My strategy for most of the game was Electra/Dromarch/Azami giving me -very- clear control on Nia's health, which meant I could stack up orbs and drop to low% hp before a chain attack, which would allow Azami to do pretty absurd damage to basically anything.

Lategame / for superbosses I had Kos-Mos, who does less damage overall but is certainly sturdier than Azami.

I got gold chips off some large but unimpressive level 60 creatures (Zeoth Sepronds) and actually did all the endgame content using them on most of my blades (6/10 had gold chips equipped)

8/10 game overall though. Some of the super heavyhanded imagery in the last few chapters is intriguing and I wanted it to be more/deeper, but overall it was pretty satisfying.

Adenine was my favourite blade overall!


Why Morag/Zenobia?

Zenobia is definetely Rex, between Mythra and the stupid amount of damage Zenobia can do you'll destroy mostly everything


+ Show Spoiler +
Wanted Agate, don't want double earth on Morag, so normally had Zenobia on Rex, but swapped zenobia / agate across rex and morag to make orbs easier to get.

Lategame Azami's damage fell off when 1hp setups are less reliable, but between her passive bonus damage for all blades if their driver is low hp, plus all of her specials being +280% or whatever on low hp, she'd do 5-8 million damage to Leonine Sadie by herself over 3+ specials at level 70-80ish.

I was trying to do low hp setups against cow, but couldn't reliably get Rex to stay alive, AND have azami low hp.

But yeah my strats from level 35ish onward were Azami 1hp-centric, because I hit a 2million chain around there, which was -far- beyond any other damage I was doing at that point.

Also Nin is the only (random) blade I did not get. File was 110 or so hours.

Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
July 30 2019 19:15 GMT
#202054
I feel really down the past few days, what the fuck is going on?
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
July 30 2019 19:34 GMT
#202055
go to the gym dude (if you weren't already)
© Current year.
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
July 30 2019 19:47 GMT
#202056
Not going to the gym, but I certainly don't lack exercise right now, did go running and mountainbiking on the weekend as much as exams allowed me to. It's so humid and hot at the same time and I feel permanently dehydrated, no matter how much I drink.
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
July 30 2019 19:55 GMT
#202057
I feel similar. I'm just doing the minimum required at the moment and with the air cooling down a bit and me sleeping better things are on the upswing.

Btw. there's a free audiobook of Moby Dick with lots of different narrators available here.
It's a very tough read, I found, but maybe I'll read it once more after going through Typee and either Waverly or Wuthering Heights.
Will definitely download the audiobook though - it's also on soundcloud, apple music thing and spotify and there's a webpage dedicated to it by the organiser.
passive quaranstream fan
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
July 30 2019 22:46 GMT
#202058
passive, the dnc is messing with yang!!1
© Current year.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
July 30 2019 23:22 GMT
#202059
Don't worry. I'm sure the #yanggang will be able to correct this with a few strategically placed bomb threats
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
July 31 2019 09:36 GMT
#202060
man china sucks

also eieio i may b coming to visit again in sept c u soon maybe
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