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Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
July 18 2019 09:10 GMT
#201881
Sigh.
I should have known better about the ensured mockery.
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
July 18 2019 16:18 GMT
#201882
what ever happened that official valve tournaments are being sponsored by gambling sites
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-18 18:00:32
July 18 2019 17:34 GMT
#201883
On July 18 2019 18:10 Slomo wrote:
Sigh.
I should have known better about the ensured mockery.

? One out of 4 is not mockery
we all have our fingers crossed here!

@teddy
Gamersnexus did a comparison of the 3600 and 3600x and comes to the conclusion that the x for 50 bucks doesnt give you any benefit in games.
passive quaranstream fan
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-18 19:19:43
July 18 2019 19:11 GMT
#201884
huh 200e seems quite cheap tho idk i think i want to spend a bit more for a better one

according to some reviews ryzen 3700x seems to be the best value?

also i googled which gpu to pair with a 3700x and it tells me 5700 xt or a 2070 super but i think thats a bit too much?
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
July 18 2019 19:53 GMT
#201885
3600 is the value one since the 3700x gives like 1% more frames

as for the gpu, what res and refresh do you use
© Current year.
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-18 19:55:53
July 18 2019 19:54 GMT
#201886
I recommended the 3700x for you 2 pages back. (:
If you have 330 bucks to spent I would deffo go for it.

Idk about the gpu, but my gut says buy nothing below the equivalent of a good 3rd party manufactured gtx 1080

On July 19 2019 04:53 CorsairHero wrote:
3600 is the value one since the 3700x gives like 1% more frames

as for the gpu, what res and refresh do you use

I don't think you can go wrong with more cores here especially if he's planning on streaming
passive quaranstream fan
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
July 18 2019 20:06 GMT
#201887
huh looking at benchmarks the 3600 seems so much more value than the 3700x
im just wondering if the 3600 is really not gonna be outdated in 1-2 years
honestly idc much about streaming at all, my current mediocre i5 can handle it completely fine cuz i have shitty internet so cant stream any reasonable quality anyhow
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
July 18 2019 20:42 GMT
#201888
outdated in terms of what
9600k already beats the 3600 for 6 core gaming and intels 10 nm comes out next year
© Current year.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-18 20:54:06
July 18 2019 20:44 GMT
#201889
in terms of playing current games at/above 60 fps in 2-3 years

shouldnt i get a 9600k then it costs about the same as the ryzen 3600? why the ryzen then

honestly all this confuses me so much
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
July 18 2019 21:52 GMT
#201890
There's not a huge difference outside of some edge cases (certain emulators like Intel more, while I think rpcs3 likes ryzens, but normal gamewise there shouldn't be a large difference). It's really preference.
Intel chips suffer some slowdown from their original benchmarks due to spectre patches. I think AMD is the better value, but I don't think there's a big difference. For gaming they're basically equal but AMD is better for non-gaming thing.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
July 18 2019 21:58 GMT
#201891
https://www.mindfactory.de/shopping_cart.php/basket_action/load_basket_extern/id/4e18292216d685c06042efd5a49dac1d5afaf9bbed07f27d745

i threw somethign together,does that look reasonable?
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-18 22:05:18
July 18 2019 21:59 GMT
#201892
9600k is 6 thread tho so it suffers a lot in the non gaming benchmarks compared to 3600. Value swings pretty heavily in favor of the ryzen because it includes a cooler.

like artisreal said, gamers nexus collected a bunch of data on this

On July 19 2019 06:58 teddyoojo wrote:
https://www.mindfactory.de/shopping_cart.php/basket_action/load_basket_extern/id/4e18292216d685c06042efd5a49dac1d5afaf9bbed07f27d745

i threw somethign together,does that look reasonable?

get ram at least 3200 mhz
with a case like you can use a taller cooler like a nhu14
with that kind of hardware, atx is extreme overkill, mitx is fine
© Current year.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
July 18 2019 22:00 GMT
#201893
does that mean i wouldnt have to buy a dedicated cpu cooler with the 3600?
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
July 18 2019 22:02 GMT
#201894
Damn, this kyoani fire story is really shocking and sad.
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
July 18 2019 22:08 GMT
#201895
On July 19 2019 07:00 teddyoojo wrote:
does that mean i wouldnt have to buy a dedicated cpu cooler with the 3600?

its something you can upgrade later if you think its too warm or loud but yea its fine to start off with
extended 100% cpu load prob isn't the best on that cooler tho
© Current year.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
July 18 2019 22:13 GMT
#201896
well mobos arent that expensive, whats the difference to a mitx, also prize wise, wouldnt it be an idea to get an atx anyhow if i plan on upgrading in the future?

somethign like this for ram? https://www.amazon.de/Corsair-Vengeance-3200MHz-Performance-Arbeitsspeicher/dp/B0143UM4TC/ref=sr_1_6?__mk_de_DE=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&keywords=ddr4&qid=1563487926&s=gateway&sr=8-6

for cooler this? https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/Noctua-NH-U14S-Tower-Kuehler_845166.html
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-18 22:20:06
July 18 2019 22:19 GMT
#201897
depends on if you plan on using extra pcie slots or > 32 gb of ram, most don't
check motherboard compatibility for recommended ram

i use a fractal design core 500 tho so im biased towards small cases
© Current year.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-18 22:50:49
July 18 2019 22:27 GMT
#201898
im an idiot at building the pc so id prefer a bigger case with space for terrible wiring

3200 is worht it over 3000? why

https://www.mindfactory.de/shopping_cart.php/basket_action/load_basket_extern/id/2573df2217362ffe3497a44e1599351e3a63ac16a641eee59ae anyone any thoughts
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
July 19 2019 00:07 GMT
#201899
Unterstützte Speichermodule: DDR4-2133, DDR4-2666, DDR4-3000, DDR4-3200
© Current year.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
July 19 2019 00:11 GMT
#201900
Yes
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
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