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ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
September 03 2012 13:06 GMT
#18881
On September 03 2012 21:42 Klonere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2012 21:37 ChrisXIV wrote:
On September 03 2012 21:07 ahswtini wrote:
Meepo coming on Thursday, definite yo

Please no. Release Meepo last, after Techies. PLEEEEEAAASE


Meepo is done, people were playing him @ Valve. Techies is second last on the hero release order picture that someone got.

I know, I still don't want him released.
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
September 03 2012 13:07 GMT
#18882
On September 03 2012 20:07 Fwizzz wrote:
Hoping a multiple hero patch this week.

But that would be unlikely seeing the effort Valve has done making TI2 possible.

I honestly think this is very possible.

Meepo was playable before TI and medusa was close to done as well.

Doubt valve programmers had vacation for 2 weeks so work must have continued, which make is more than likely that we will see 2 or maybe even 3 heroes
"Yeah buddy"
pap0t
Profile Joined August 2012
Philippines279 Posts
September 03 2012 13:13 GMT
#18883
Guys check this out. Chuan was once slim :p
Ownage, maybe?
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
September 03 2012 13:18 GMT
#18884
Pudge is so awesome in low-level pubstomp games.

1: No map awareness to notice pudge is probably going fishing.
2: No wards to spot where pudge is hiding.
3: More importantly, no juking. I made several successful hooks into the fog because they just kept walking in a straight line..

Need a graph?
=Þ
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
September 03 2012 13:19 GMT
#18885
Holy shit meepo is being released???

...Yeah I'm not playing for a while.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34510 Posts
September 03 2012 13:21 GMT
#18886
On September 03 2012 22:19 writer22816 wrote:
Holy shit meepo is being released???

...Yeah I'm not playing for a while.

I think people wrote this every single week.
Moderator
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
September 03 2012 13:22 GMT
#18887
if meepo is released, ill play pudge. People won't share control and cant control 2heroes anyway ~~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
September 03 2012 13:25 GMT
#18888
just wait 1 day, most will realize how bad they are at multitasking and leave him alone for ever.
Myself included
"Yeah buddy"
Reap_
Profile Joined September 2011
Brunei Darussalam760 Posts
September 03 2012 13:28 GMT
#18889
If Meepo's released, I'll be playing him all day. Always fun playing meepo :D
www.twitter.com/raginreap | First Departure, Orange, Na`Vi, Mouz and Zenith
Fwizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines4420 Posts
September 03 2012 13:29 GMT
#18890
I'll play single draft for a week.
Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
September 03 2012 13:31 GMT
#18891
On September 03 2012 21:55 NeWeNiyaLord wrote:
Sorry if this is the totally wrong place to ask this, but how do I get into beta? Read a thread where I should buy three keys? What kind? And he linked me to reddit/r/dota2trade to submit that I was willing to trade 3 of these keys (Still no idea what kind) for a Beta invitation.

But firstly. I don't know how to post in reddit/r/dota2trade and secondly I'd really want a "easy" way to get it,
because I'm lazy. So anyone here willing to trade 3 of those "keys" for a Dota 2 invite? Please give me a PM If you'd like to help a Starcrafter get into Dota 2


If you have bought your three keys from the dota2 store, then you can try posting in the TL Item Trading thread offering them for a dota2 invite. It's essentially the same as reddit trading actually.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=341962
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-03 13:56:25
September 03 2012 13:52 GMT
#18892
I love getting easy wins against all those pubbies who play Morph/AM after watching a TI2 game and fail miserably. awwww yeah.

On September 03 2012 22:13 pap0t wrote:
Guys check this out. Chuan was once slim :p
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_bokhz_7Yo


That's sad . It's the same way I got into gaming. I was a fairly good basketball player and I had a bad injury at my wrist that didn't allow me to shoot anymore. From there on I stopped playing basketball and got into e-sport. I didn't get fat though...
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
September 03 2012 13:56 GMT
#18893
morph players yeah, but AM ain't that hard to play so most will still do good
"Yeah buddy"
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
September 03 2012 14:00 GMT
#18894
On September 03 2012 22:56 Ramong wrote:
morph players yeah, but AM ain't that hard to play so most will still do good


The thing is, most pub AM will get a really late battlefury and keep farming because all their items will be delayed. So you just group up and go as 5 and hope that the AM is retarded enough to ingore his team. Easy win.
Look A Distraction
Profile Joined March 2012
United States10 Posts
September 03 2012 14:11 GMT
#18895
On September 03 2012 23:00 BlitzerSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2012 22:56 Ramong wrote:
morph players yeah, but AM ain't that hard to play so most will still do good


The thing is, most pub AM will get a really late battlefury and keep farming because all their items will be delayed. So you just group up and go as 5 and hope that the AM is retarded enough to ingore his team. Easy win.



This. Doing a game yesterday the other team had a solo am that got crushed by dirge/kotl so bad that he ended up with a 40 min battlefury. Dieing in teamfights with no items didn't help him either.

Most pubbies will try to do something they saw a pro do and fail at it, myself included. The real challenge of that is figuring out what you have to cut to stay effective after you dont farm so well.
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
September 03 2012 14:11 GMT
#18896
but that require your team being able to go as 5.

You might be (un)lucky enough to have a carry wanna be yourself with a 35min bf that only want to farm.
"Yeah buddy"
GaryBrackett
Profile Joined December 2010
Bulgaria106 Posts
September 03 2012 14:31 GMT
#18897
I've played a lot of Dota and Heroes of Newerth over the years but I only got a beta key about 2 months ago and having played ~90 games or something, I have to say the standard of game is very disappointing and I haven't solo queued for the last 50 or so games.

In a 20 game period i went about 15-5 in wins/losses. These games were incredibly frustrating due to the exceedingly low standard of the games. People who farm woods while your base is getting pushed is an example or people that push the enemy base on their own without teleport???? Obviously this kind of thing is going to be common in people who are new to the game.

However even after this 15-5 spree the standard of game just didn't change at all so i gave up on solo queuing and just started playing with people i know. The problem is the people i know are a lot less experienced than myself so although it's not frustrating playing with them, the games are still of a really low standard.

I observed one of those games that has loads of spectators, and although it's hard to gauge from just watching, I think I would be fine in those games in my more preferred utility/support role. Profiling all the people in the games, every single one had over 400 wins and I currently have about 50.

I am capable of winning a high % of games if i solo queue but it's just not enjoyable at all, no offense but i find it very frustrating to play with beginners and I know i'm not improving at the game at all due to the different tactics required.
e.g. in the level of games i get, you can kill people with rupture because they still move with it on and don't carry teleport scrolls.
e.g. in the games i get people go lothars edge on every single hero

I'm not saying the matchmaking is awful, my first 10 or so games i went 3-7 because i hadn't played for a while and i had severe FPS lag problems that I've now fixed. I also play with someone that leaves a lot. So get quite a few losses from that.

My question is can I get to a much higher tier of matchmaking without having to play 600 games? because I don't think i can stomach playing that many games at a low level or is the solution to just find people who are your standard and only search with them?
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-03 14:34:58
September 03 2012 14:34 GMT
#18898
You can (easily) inflate your MMR by playing with very high MMR people

My smurf is no longer a smurf because of that after ~100 games, I used it to play with mid to high mmr and we ended up improving to a higher mmr in ~100 games.
WriterXiao8~~
MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
September 03 2012 14:36 GMT
#18899
On September 03 2012 23:31 GaryBrackett wrote:
I've played a lot of Dota and Heroes of Newerth over the years but I only got a beta key about 2 months ago and having played ~90 games or something, I have to say the standard of game is very disappointing and I haven't solo queued for the last 50 or so games.

In a 20 game period i went about 15-5 in wins/losses. These games were incredibly frustrating due to the exceedingly low standard of the games. People who farm woods while your base is getting pushed is an example or people that push the enemy base on their own without teleport???? Obviously this kind of thing is going to be common in people who are new to the game.

However even after this 15-5 spree the standard of game just didn't change at all so i gave up on solo queuing and just started playing with people i know. The problem is the people i know are a lot less experienced than myself so although it's not frustrating playing with them, the games are still of a really low standard.

I observed one of those games that has loads of spectators, and although it's hard to gauge from just watching, I think I would be fine in those games in my more preferred utility/support role. Profiling all the people in the games, every single one had over 400 wins and I currently have about 50.

I am capable of winning a high % of games if i solo queue but it's just not enjoyable at all, no offense but i find it very frustrating to play with beginners and I know i'm not improving at the game at all due to the different tactics required.
e.g. in the level of games i get, you can kill people with rupture because they still move with it on and don't carry teleport scrolls.
e.g. in the games i get people go lothars edge on every single hero

I'm not saying the matchmaking is awful, my first 10 or so games i went 3-7 because i hadn't played for a while and i had severe FPS lag problems that I've now fixed. I also play with someone that leaves a lot. So get quite a few losses from that.

My question is can I get to a much higher tier of matchmaking without having to play 600 games? because I don't think i can stomach playing that many games at a low level or is the solution to just find people who are your standard and only search with them?

dont expect to start in the highest mmr....90% of the games at very high mmr are actually really really good....its just getting out of elo hell, like in every other game too (LoL, HoN) and sometimes you are just stuck for a while....go to the "watch" tab, then "recent games" now type in your nickname, and then select normal skill, high, very high etc. then you can actually see where you are at...
"Your Razor sucks!" -Kuroky's Dad
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
September 03 2012 14:40 GMT
#18900
On September 03 2012 23:31 GaryBrackett wrote:
I've played a lot of Dota and Heroes of Newerth over the years but I only got a beta key about 2 months ago and having played ~90 games or something, I have to say the standard of game is very disappointing and I haven't solo queued for the last 50 or so games.

In a 20 game period i went about 15-5 in wins/losses. These games were incredibly frustrating due to the exceedingly low standard of the games. People who farm woods while your base is getting pushed is an example or people that push the enemy base on their own without teleport???? Obviously this kind of thing is going to be common in people who are new to the game.

However even after this 15-5 spree the standard of game just didn't change at all so i gave up on solo queuing and just started playing with people i know. The problem is the people i know are a lot less experienced than myself so although it's not frustrating playing with them, the games are still of a really low standard.

I observed one of those games that has loads of spectators, and although it's hard to gauge from just watching, I think I would be fine in those games in my more preferred utility/support role. Profiling all the people in the games, every single one had over 400 wins and I currently have about 50.

I am capable of winning a high % of games if i solo queue but it's just not enjoyable at all, no offense but i find it very frustrating to play with beginners and I know i'm not improving at the game at all due to the different tactics required.
e.g. in the level of games i get, you can kill people with rupture because they still move with it on and don't carry teleport scrolls.
e.g. in the games i get people go lothars edge on every single hero

I'm not saying the matchmaking is awful, my first 10 or so games i went 3-7 because i hadn't played for a while and i had severe FPS lag problems that I've now fixed. I also play with someone that leaves a lot. So get quite a few losses from that.

My question is can I get to a much higher tier of matchmaking without having to play 600 games? because I don't think i can stomach playing that many games at a low level or is the solution to just find people who are your standard and only search with them?


Of course you can. If a pro starts a new account he won't be playing with noobs after 50 games, but, as you said, it's not like you started dominating every game. I doubt your MMR didn't change after a 15-5 spree though, but that doesn't mean you will jump to a very high skill bracket just because of that. The whole watching higher level games and thinking you deserve to be there can often be misleading, it's hard to judge yourself. Even by looking at your own replays you can suddenly realize how many stupid mistakes you make. In the end, if you are really playing at a much lower level than you should be, it shouldn't take that long to move up.
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