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debasers
Profile Joined August 2010
737 Posts
September 03 2012 14:40 GMT
#18901
On September 03 2012 23:34 Kipsate wrote:
You can (easily) inflate your MMR by playing with very high MMR people

My smurf is no longer a smurf because of that after ~100 games, I used it to play with mid to high mmr and we ended up improving to a higher mmr in ~100 games.


btw, valve has said that after only 10 games, you can get a new account to the "very high" mmr level
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-03 15:05:31
September 03 2012 15:01 GMT
#18902
the thing i hate the most is playing a stack that is larger than 2 in a pub game... it is hard to not try hard and even if you try hard, often in time it will be out of coordination and fail miserably. this is also why i never watch most NA streamers, they stack too much and thought all their pub stomp is indicating how skill they are :-/

edit: the matter of fact is, if you cant handle a few lose in pubs while solo queuing, the chance is that you have yet play enough dota for a higher match making queue anyway. anyone who experienced in the scene should have played pub a massive ton since dota1 day to accumulate the gaming experience. Notice that if you start out in HoN/LoL/dota2, you are still missing out at least 3-4 years of experience compare to veteran dota1 pros so demanding high level mmr isnt a bit too much?
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MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
September 03 2012 15:04 GMT
#18903
On September 04 2012 00:01 NB wrote:
this is also why i never watch most NA streamers, they stack too much and thought all their pub stomp is indicating how skill they are :-/

word ^^
"Your Razor sucks!" -Kuroky's Dad
GaryBrackett
Profile Joined December 2010
Bulgaria106 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-03 15:39:46
September 03 2012 15:05 GMT
#18904
given up on solo matchmaking again xx
Pretty stereotypical game, someone picks Shadow Fiend and says mid straight away, so you pick Leshrac to support top.
Stack and pull woods including big camp using a tango.
Destroy Chaos Knight with Edict and Stun then Mirana last hits so gets first blood.
Destroy Chaos Knight again then invoker sunstrike kills him... (at least he was helping)
Bla bla bla gets into mid game where their Faceless void and Storm Spirit are fairly farmed while your shadow fiend is 1-8-0
You start having team fights, you run in stun and put edict up, get 4s stunned by Chaos Knight and killed in a second while your team of Mirana Weaver and Invoker run away in invis.
Game takes 35 minutes to end despite being 45-11.

Obviously if i was a professional player i would ease through the matchmaking but come on even DENDI would struggle to win a game with Leshrac support top where your team pick 3 weak invis heroes and run away.
Without demanding mid every game (50% of games someone else demands mid and ruins it for you or you ruin it for them) it's too difficult to win consistently.
I'm not saying i can't win 60% of games over 50 games or something, i definitely can, it's just not fun at all, 50 games is like 30-40 hours!!!

There's no practical solution to the matchmaking problem really it's just unfortunate ;p
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
September 03 2012 15:31 GMT
#18905
http://www.dota-academy.com/tournament/58/

top 5 GPM does not has morph in it. I now declare TI2 was a success tournament and Dota2 is a balance game
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MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-03 15:41:55
September 03 2012 15:41 GMT
#18906
can some mod explain why the team change prediction thread was closed?
"Your Razor sucks!" -Kuroky's Dad
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
September 03 2012 15:44 GMT
#18907
OP was low effort and discussion there went really close to a LoL vs Dota (again -.-) also it was all speculation, not really best thing to discuss
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Reap_
Profile Joined September 2011
Brunei Darussalam760 Posts
September 03 2012 15:45 GMT
#18908
On September 04 2012 00:31 NB wrote:
http://www.dota-academy.com/tournament/58/

top 5 GPM does not has morph in it. I now declare TI2 was a success tournament and Dota2 is a balance game


There are 3 heroes in the top 5 with only 1 game. So, Morphling is actually 3rd.
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MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
September 03 2012 15:45 GMT
#18909
On September 04 2012 00:44 Qbek wrote:
OP was low effort and discussion there went really close to a LoL vs Dota (again -.-) also it was all speculation, not really best thing to discuss

yeah well im sorry for that lol vs dota part, but it has ended it was only like 5-6posts
"Your Razor sucks!" -Kuroky's Dad
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
September 03 2012 15:47 GMT
#18910
I think it was mostly because of the mostly speculative matter of discussion it was closed, it was leading nowhere
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[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
September 03 2012 15:52 GMT
#18911
On September 04 2012 00:05 GaryBrackett wrote:
given up on solo matchmaking again xx
Pretty stereotypical game, someone picks Shadow Fiend and says mid straight away, so you pick Leshrac to support top.
Stack and pull woods including big camp using a tango.
Destroy Chaos Knight with Edict and Stun then Mirana last hits so gets first blood.
Destroy Chaos Knight again then invoker sunstrike kills him... (at least he was helping)
Bla bla bla gets into mid game where their Faceless void and Storm Spirit are fairly farmed while your shadow fiend is 1-8-0
You start having team fights, you run in stun and put edict up, get 4s stunned by Chaos Knight and killed in a second while your team of Mirana Weaver and Invoker run away in invis.
Game takes 35 minutes to end despite being 45-11.

Obviously if i was a professional player i would ease through the matchmaking but come on even DENDI would struggle to win a game with Leshrac support top where your team pick 3 weak invis heroes and run away.
Without demanding mid every game (50% of games someone else demands mid and ruins it for you or you ruin it for them) it's too difficult to win consistently.
I'm not saying i can't win 60% of games over 50 games or something, i definitely can, it's just not fun at all, 50 games is like 30-40 hours!!!

There's no practical solution to the matchmaking problem really it's just unfortunate ;p

I think this post would be more appropriate in the DotA QQ thread we already have up
"Turn Disadvantages into Disadvantages" and "Collect Telephones". The secrets of Chinese success.
Bisonte
Profile Joined March 2012
Portugal60 Posts
September 03 2012 15:55 GMT
#18912
I dont agree with the close of the thread, i created it to read DOTA 2 fans opinion on the outcome of the TI2, and the posts were being good with people discussing about how Dota2 will influence players in Korea, they talked about the current player statements like HyHy and Maelk... how is that low effort? If a thread like this is leading nowhere, is the "Why all these dendi/navi fanboys?" going somewhere?

I could understand the close of it if a LoL vs D2 war was about to begin but it was like 5 posts and it was a discussion between the 2 of them, not a flame war. But its ok, if they think that thread had no meaning of existence then its ok. Not going to rant about it.
E-SPORTS!
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
September 03 2012 16:01 GMT
#18913
You don't just ask for opinions on a matter. You need to introduce the matter and give your own opinion together with facts(preferably with sources) that it's based on. What you did there was low effort
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34510 Posts
September 03 2012 16:04 GMT
#18914
Has anyone else found that their games aren't being recorded in their latest games? For a few days now my games have been appearing on dota-buff but don't show in the in fame client.
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
September 03 2012 16:08 GMT
#18915
On September 04 2012 01:04 Firebolt145 wrote:
Has anyone else found that their games aren't being recorded in their latest games? For a few days now my games have been appearing on dota-buff but don't show in the in fame client.

Quoting before you edit for in fame
Overall the servers were a bit wonky lately I feel, maybe they assigned the servers that handle such requests normally to bolster up spectating ones for TI. I haven't played a lot but heard others complain too
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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
September 03 2012 16:08 GMT
#18916
On September 04 2012 00:55 Bisonte wrote:
I dont agree with the close of the thread, i created it to read DOTA 2 fans opinion on the outcome of the TI2, and the posts were being good with people discussing about how Dota2 will influence players in Korea, they talked about the current player statements like HyHy and Maelk... how is that low effort? If a thread like this is leading nowhere, is the "Why all these dendi/navi fanboys?" going somewhere?

I could understand the close of it if a LoL vs D2 war was about to begin but it was like 5 posts and it was a discussion between the 2 of them, not a flame war. But its ok, if they think that thread had no meaning of existence then its ok. Not going to rant about it.


I checked the thread out. What i thought:

1.OP is lacking content which leads to Point2 plus Naz was the one who closed it
2.TL is covering Dota2 now so naturally you want a good discussion thread on anything related to the pro scene.

Players leaving/disbanding, big matter, and this is progaming forum. I think the topic is interesting but just the OP is very much lacking content, this is not Playdota you need to keep in mind. Or,

3.TL is writing an article about that so an effort lacking discussion thread get closed lol
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34510 Posts
September 03 2012 16:10 GMT
#18917
On September 04 2012 01:08 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 01:04 Firebolt145 wrote:
Has anyone else found that their games aren't being recorded in their latest games? For a few days now my games have been appearing on dota-buff but don't show in the in fame client.

Quoting before you edit for in fame
Overall the servers were a bit wonky lately I feel, maybe they assigned the servers that handle such requests normally to bolster up spectating ones for TI. I haven't played a lot but heard others complain too

I noticed the typo after the post but I'm typing on my phone and cbf to correct. :D
Moderator
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
September 03 2012 16:11 GMT
#18918
On September 04 2012 01:10 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 01:08 Qbek wrote:
On September 04 2012 01:04 Firebolt145 wrote:
Has anyone else found that their games aren't being recorded in their latest games? For a few days now my games have been appearing on dota-buff but don't show in the in fame client.

Quoting before you edit for in fame
Overall the servers were a bit wonky lately I feel, maybe they assigned the servers that handle such requests normally to bolster up spectating ones for TI. I haven't played a lot but heard others complain too

I noticed the typo after the post but I'm typing on my phone and cbf to correct. :D

http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=53341&page=6&p=332005&viewfull=1#post332005 Here's confirmation for my theory, they disabled it for TI

Also it's quite a "glorious" typo
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Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
September 03 2012 16:15 GMT
#18919
--- Nuked ---
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
September 03 2012 16:15 GMT
#18920
i wouldnt careless if they disable the entire match making system to push players into viewer... may be all the noobs could learn a bit from dendi
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