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The Great Taste
Profile Joined January 2012
389 Posts
August 18 2012 15:59 GMT
#17121
AdmiralBulldog HAHA



It's too short though T_T, noting that it's made by his friend who just plays Sand King
Attakijing
Profile Joined June 2011
United States693 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-18 17:41:28
August 18 2012 17:41 GMT
#17122
i hope that he never changes into anything other than "the guy that only plays lone druid"

edit: the related videos lol
Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
August 18 2012 21:09 GMT
#17123
Anyone else feeling Dota is significantly superior to SC2 in terms of being a spectator? I pretty much stopped watching/playing SC2 stuff ever since I got my beta key...This game is so much fun.
"I am a beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance. "
ViZe
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1513 Posts
August 18 2012 21:12 GMT
#17124
On August 19 2012 00:05 Attakijing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2012 22:13 ViZe wrote:
Hi guys, I'm pretty new to DotA and I've been enjoying it, for the most part. The biggest issue I've had is that in literal 9 out of 10 Humans vs Humans games I've played, someone has left. Am I experiencing some exceptional bad luck or is this consistent throughout the matchmaking?

Also do you guys have any suggestions for melee heros laning vs. ranged ones? I.e. I was playing Nightstalker and someone picked Invoker and was able to zone me pretty hard with autos and ranged spells

are you playing dota or dota 2?


DotA 2, I probably should have specified that
Cool Cat
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1644 Posts
August 18 2012 21:12 GMT
#17125
On August 19 2012 06:09 Bleak wrote:
Anyone else feeling Dota is significantly superior to SC2 in terms of being a spectator? I pretty much stopped watching/playing SC2 stuff ever since I got my beta key...This game is so much fun.

I actually think that Dota is a worse spectator sport than SC2 or BW because the games are so long, can be very boring, and cannot be easily understood by those unfamiliar with the game, whereas in SC2 or BW, it's easier to get a general idea as to what is going on.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
August 18 2012 21:13 GMT
#17126
On August 19 2012 06:09 Bleak wrote:
Anyone else feeling Dota is significantly superior to SC2 in terms of being a spectator? I pretty much stopped watching/playing SC2 stuff ever since I got my beta key...This game is so much fun.

Only if you play the game yourself.You can't really fully enjoy Dota2 without at least basic knowledge of the game while many claim you can SC2. I personally only watch SC2 if players I like play, and there's less and less of them around
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
pyro19
Profile Joined August 2010
6575 Posts
August 18 2012 21:29 GMT
#17127
On August 19 2012 06:12 Cool Cat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2012 06:09 Bleak wrote:
Anyone else feeling Dota is significantly superior to SC2 in terms of being a spectator? I pretty much stopped watching/playing SC2 stuff ever since I got my beta key...This game is so much fun.

I actually think that Dota is a worse spectator sport than SC2 or BW because the games are so long, can be very boring, and cannot be easily understood by those unfamiliar with the game, whereas in SC2 or BW, it's easier to get a general idea as to what is going on.


Indeed..Even while playing DOTA 2 can be incredibly Frustrating to play too....Having to play out long drawn out 45 min games when you know you have already lost the match when the enemy Carry is fed to high Heavens by the 20 min mark..

Plus I didn't understand half the Terms and Abbreviations and Items used in DOTA upto my 50th game...I've played 200 games and I'm still not sure what 50% of the Items are used for.
Thy Shall Die Alone...or emm..something like that.
Porkz
Profile Joined December 2010
Denmark1027 Posts
August 18 2012 21:30 GMT
#17128
On August 19 2012 00:59 The Great Taste wrote:
AdmiralBulldog HAHA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vBm5fBa1zo

It's too short though T_T, noting that it's made by his friend who just plays Sand King


Oh my god those dodges with the shapeshift, didn't even know you could do that
Great supine protoplasmic invertebrate jellies
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17078 Posts
August 18 2012 21:32 GMT
#17129
On August 19 2012 06:29 pyro19 wrote:
Plus I didn't understand half the Terms and Abbreviations and Items used in DOTA upto my 50th game...I've played 200 games and I'm still not sure what 50% of the Items are used for.


You're doing something wrong then.
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 18 2012 21:46 GMT
#17130
On August 19 2012 06:09 Bleak wrote:
Anyone else feeling Dota is significantly superior to SC2 in terms of being a spectator? I pretty much stopped watching/playing SC2 stuff ever since I got my beta key...This game is so much fun.


Yea I think it's far better than SC2 but I think SC2 is shit anyway and I played it for 2 years. Just kept wanting it to be as good as BW so made myself believe it was instead of seeing it for what it is. People think dota is like it was years ago and pass it off instead of actually seeing what it is today. The games themselves don't take much longer than FPS games and decent rts games either, it's the stuff outside the game like always starting late that makes them longer.
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
August 18 2012 22:17 GMT
#17131
On August 19 2012 06:32 Empyrean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2012 06:29 pyro19 wrote:
Plus I didn't understand half the Terms and Abbreviations and Items used in DOTA upto my 50th game...I've played 200 games and I'm still not sure what 50% of the Items are used for.


You're doing something wrong then.

Well to be fair there are a lot of items.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
August 18 2012 22:19 GMT
#17132
On August 19 2012 06:12 Cool Cat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2012 06:09 Bleak wrote:
Anyone else feeling Dota is significantly superior to SC2 in terms of being a spectator? I pretty much stopped watching/playing SC2 stuff ever since I got my beta key...This game is so much fun.

I actually think that Dota is a worse spectator sport than SC2 or BW because the games are so long, can be very boring, and cannot be easily understood by those unfamiliar with the game, whereas in SC2 or BW, it's easier to get a general idea as to what is going on.

woah... I don't think you've watched a sc2 game in a while...
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
August 18 2012 22:31 GMT
#17133
On August 19 2012 07:19 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2012 06:12 Cool Cat wrote:
On August 19 2012 06:09 Bleak wrote:
Anyone else feeling Dota is significantly superior to SC2 in terms of being a spectator? I pretty much stopped watching/playing SC2 stuff ever since I got my beta key...This game is so much fun.

I actually think that Dota is a worse spectator sport than SC2 or BW because the games are so long, can be very boring, and cannot be easily understood by those unfamiliar with the game, whereas in SC2 or BW, it's easier to get a general idea as to what is going on.

woah... I don't think you've watched a sc2 game in a while...


here has been my spectator views on sc2 in the past few months

zvt: TURTLE TO BROODLORDS
zvp: TURTLE TO BROODLORDS
tvz: FUCK KILL HIM BEFORE BROODLORDS
tvp: FUCK GODDAMIT COLOSSUS FUCK STORM FUCK FUCK
pvt: FUCKIN 2 BASE CHEESY BIO FUCK
pvz: GODDAMIT PLEASE LET ME LAND THIS VORTEX ON ALL YOUR INFESTORS

the only good games to watch are mirror matches. pvp especially
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-18 22:52:09
August 18 2012 22:51 GMT
#17134
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
August 18 2012 22:53 GMT
#17135
Wait wait wait

why would you want to watch PvP

why would you do that to yourself

TvT is the only Mirror that is good to watch.
WriterXiao8~~
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
August 18 2012 22:54 GMT
#17136
I think we should stop talking about sc2.
but pvp is boring as fuck.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
August 18 2012 23:08 GMT
#17137
I had to double-check what thread I was viewing..

Yup, Dota 2.

Btw you wanna land vortex on broodlords, not infestors =)
=Þ
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-18 23:14:31
August 18 2012 23:11 GMT
#17138
So I am downloading Dota right now and I quite enjoyed the original is Dota 2 as good?
And how is the pro scene is it good e.g. lots of tournaments stable scene e.t.c ?
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
ViZe
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1513 Posts
August 18 2012 23:14 GMT
#17139
I think DotA doesn't really make such a great spectator sport, at least for the non-initiated. There is way too much shit that takes experience and/or research, at least at the competitive level. So much TP-ing, so many items, so many characters, wtf does that spell do wtf wtf wtf. The only things that seemed obvious to me when I watched for the first time were Black Hole, Rupture, Chronosphere, and Night Stalker. Everything else took an understanding of the game to actually see what was going on.

SC2 and LoL are probably better for the uninitiated. SC2 is easy to see since units are introduced incrementally and none of them are very complicated. It is easy to see what is going on, generally. LoL is much slower paced and probably a bit easier to explain.

BW and DotA are probably better to watch for players though, since everything tends to be more dynamic and there is a lot more subtlety. Not to mention that there are lots of things that pros do that the average player cannot do. There is not much like watching Fantasy's mechanics after you struggle through doing the most basic of builds correctly.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-18 23:57:12
August 18 2012 23:56 GMT
#17140
I think Dota is a great specator sport, however it is very hard to understand what is going on if you don't play the game, there is simply too much information on the field, and casters even when constantly talking will not be able to relay enough information for you to understand it(not to mention sometimes they are wrong aswell).

You need to play the game before you are able to follow it a bit, but that is just the nature of the game.
WriterXiao8~~
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