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On August 15 2012 19:42 Firebolt145 wrote:
There was quite a long period between Icefrog taking over DotA and Pendragon & co going to make LoL. It wasn't 'because Icefrog took DotA' that they made LoL.
They also initially never wanted to shut down DA.com. This was around the time that Pendragon started working on LoL and he wanted to commercialise DA, advertising LoL etc. Icefrog disagreed with this and he left to make playdota.
>DotA-Allstars.com
>advertising a (I guess) rival game aka LoL
heh?
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i just wardtrapped myself. #shame
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On August 15 2012 19:49 ChrisXIV wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2012 19:10 Firebolt145 wrote:
I believe one of the old devs posted a rather interesting and detailed story about how the game went from Guinsoo to Icefrog on Reddit, which was then quoted here many pages ago. I have no idea how to find it though, sorry.
edit: and the guy above me posts it while I'm typing this, like a boss. Search function ftw :D
I know, I just had no idea what to actually search for lol.
On August 15 2012 20:03 DoNotDisturb wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2012 19:42 Firebolt145 wrote:
There was quite a long period between Icefrog taking over DotA and Pendragon & co going to make LoL. It wasn't 'because Icefrog took DotA' that they made LoL.
They also initially never wanted to shut down DA.com. This was around the time that Pendragon started working on LoL and he wanted to commercialise DA, advertising LoL etc. Icefrog disagreed with this and he left to make playdota. > DotA-Allstars.com >advertising a (I guess) rival game aka LoL heh?
Pretty much. They wanted to directly advertise it to everyone that played DotA. I don't know whether there was actually an argument or simply a mutual disagreement but it resulted in DA being shut down and Playdota coming up.
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On August 15 2012 20:08 Erasme wrote:
i just wardtrapped myself. #shame
heh. wait til you do it with veno. true shame is realizing you've slowly boxed yourself in throughout a fight.
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Hmm. Once DotA2 is fully released, what is to stop people spamming new Steam accounts for lots of smurfs for pubstomping fun?
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On August 15 2012 13:38 Truez wrote:Probably seems out of place this many pages on, but that discussion earlier about hero names made me realize that I really miss the old names - brings back so much nostalgia from the old 5.84c dota era. Mogul Khan('t touch this), Kardel Sharpeye, Mangix, Bousch, Mercurial, Kael, Crixalis, Mangix... Ah man I feel old knowing all these 
Think I read somewhere that the hero names would return in DotA 2 at some point
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On August 15 2012 20:12 Dattish wrote:Nah man, you stategically protected yourself from the enemy melee heroes.
it was near an ennemy tower. And a jug tp in. #help
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On August 15 2012 20:14 Firebolt145 wrote:
Hmm. Once DotA2 is fully released, what is to stop people spamming new Steam accounts for lots of smurfs for pubstomping fun?
Nothing, probably.
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On August 15 2012 20:20 PassiveAce wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2012 20:14 Firebolt145 wrote:
Hmm. Once DotA2 is fully released, what is to stop people spamming new Steam accounts for lots of smurfs for pubstomping fun? Nothing, probably.
You can assume there will be free- and premium-accounts like in TF2. Just some restrictions in trading and Backpack capacity. Suddenly everyone will play his own account because of the items.
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On August 15 2012 20:14 Firebolt145 wrote:
Hmm. Once DotA2 is fully released, what is to stop people spamming new Steam accounts for lots of smurfs for pubstomping fun?
there's.....appeal? in playing in low level games? when i got vouched into the early inhouse leagues i never played a bnet pub game again, when the private servers started i never played on bnet period. why would you want to go backwards?
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I was thinking they should do something like require certain amount worth of games/money spent on your account to play the game for free. I'm not saying you should have to own entire steam library but just a couple non f2p games.
Even if you're coming to steam just for DotA 2, you could just buy couple old valve games/DotA items or something and you can play it for almost free. Game is worth more than most Triple-As anyway.
Might be too much but somekind of anti-smurf is needed.
On August 15 2012 20:36 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2012 20:14 Firebolt145 wrote:
Hmm. Once DotA2 is fully released, what is to stop people spamming new Steam accounts for lots of smurfs for pubstomping fun? there's.....appeal? in playing in low level games? when i got vouched into the early inhouse leagues i never played a bnet pub game again, when the private servers started i never played on bnet period. why would you want to go backwards?
People do it on SC2 as well if you haven't noticed, and thats without being able to smurf free. I'm talking about Master players losing MMR till they can stomp Bronzies.
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On August 15 2012 20:36 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2012 20:14 Firebolt145 wrote:
Hmm. Once DotA2 is fully released, what is to stop people spamming new Steam accounts for lots of smurfs for pubstomping fun? there's.....appeal? in playing in low level games? when i got vouched into the early inhouse leagues i never played a bnet pub game again, when the private servers started i never played on bnet period. why would you want to go backwards?
Yes. In HoN for example groups of friends would create smurfs and all 5 of them would go stomp low mmr newbies just for fun. It happened pretty often.
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I am guessing the battlepoint system can help that a tiny bit but ye nothing really can stop people smurfing.
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On August 15 2012 20:12 PrinceXizor wrote:heh. wait til you do it with veno. true shame is realizing you've slowly boxed yourself in throughout a fight.
I once boxed myself in with one angry immortal named Roshan. >_> PA saved me because she killed him faster than he could kill me.
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On August 15 2012 20:38 Vaelone wrote:
People do it on SC2 as well if you haven't noticed, and thats without being able to smurf free. I'm talking about Master players losing MMR till they can stomp Bronzies.
People do it in SC2 to catapult themselves to GM abusing the system
People do it in HoN because hon is notorious for having terribly mannered players.
In dota there is absolutely no reason to do so there is no fun to be had in completely one sided games, nor is there fun in having to deal with terrible players on your team when you know things could be played much better. Dota is far more like brood war in this regard. players do not really seek to go backwards in dota nor BW. Pub games are rife with issues (leavers ect) so even pubstomping has to be combine with trolling ect ect to even get a game to last long enough. Again requires an incredibly immature playerbase.
I just see absolutely no reason to ever smurf in dota 2.
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On August 15 2012 21:23 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2012 20:38 Vaelone wrote:
People do it on SC2 as well if you haven't noticed, and thats without being able to smurf free. I'm talking about Master players losing MMR till they can stomp Bronzies. People do it in SC2 to catapult themselves to GM abusing the system People do it in HoN because hon is notorious for having terribly mannered players. In dota there is absolutely no reason to do so there is no fun to be had in completely one sided games, nor is there fun in having to deal with terrible players on your team when you know things could be played much better. Dota is far more like brood war in this regard. players do not really seek to go backwards in dota nor BW. Pub games are rife with issues (leavers ect) so even pubstomping has to be combine with trolling ect ect to even get a game to last long enough. Again requires an incredibly immature playerbase. I just see absolutely no reason to ever smurf in dota 2.
I have absolutely no idea where you're getting this idea from, but there were a lot of smurfs in low level games for both SC2 and HoN. If Dota 2 is completely free, then there WILL be a crap ton of smurfs just because you don't need to pay a single cent or to tank your MMR down.
Welcome to the gaming community, where 90% of the playerbase is incredibly immature.
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On August 15 2012 21:23 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2012 20:38 Vaelone wrote:
People do it on SC2 as well if you haven't noticed, and thats without being able to smurf free. I'm talking about Master players losing MMR till they can stomp Bronzies. People do it in SC2 to catapult themselves to GM abusing the system
not at all, they do it because they get more gratification from stomping noobs then they do from playing difficult games.
People will do it in Dota2 as well.
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It's just incomprehensible
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People are dicks in all games. DotA 2 will be no different from HoN etc, it would be naive to assume otherwise. That's what I'm worried about.
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