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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
August 15 2012 07:00 GMT
#16741
lol... sever went down this thread generated 6 pages in the past 4 hours or smthing... reading them was quite a great comedy xD. And when we actually had some real discussion going on, where are all these people with only 200-300 posts -_-.

rubish rubish
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
August 15 2012 07:51 GMT
#16742
anyone saw that video navi posted of dendi's tinker going march/dagon 5/hsm/laser/refresh spam?

insane shit yo. and in dendi fpview too.
POGGERS
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
August 15 2012 07:54 GMT
#16743
On August 15 2012 14:59 FinestHour wrote:
listen bro you better read the ten commandments again
and make shadow blade on all carries


Psh, you make shadow blade on ALL heroes. While you are at it, you are suppose to give the courier their own shadow blade so it does not feel left out. That is the only way to truly play dota.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-15 07:56:01
August 15 2012 07:55 GMT
#16744
I haven't played Dota 2 yet but I just recently read the item names.

Disappointed that they took off Guinsoo's name from Guinsoo's Scythe (Eul's stayed).

Guinsoo basically built up a huge part of DotA (yes, it was popular and flooded all of WC3 customs before Icefrog even took over). A lot of the things (item recipes, etc) were his idea AFAIK (Eul's version of Dota was very basic).

Now, they did also take off all references to items based on Blizzard games (Like the +25 STR reaver + the crossbow from Diablo) too but still, considering they took kept Eul's name, IMO they should have kept Guinsoo's name on the item.

I'm sure no one really cares that much but honestly, it would have felt nicer to see the name kept on the item. I guess, it would have felt a bit more positive rather than negative.

I do know Guinsoo and Icefrog sort of separated after Guinsoo advertised LoL on the (old) official DotA forums way back but before that, they had a positive relationship and it's a bit sad to see it really end I guess....(*cries)
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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
August 15 2012 07:58 GMT
#16745
they don't call it guinsoo's any more because they don't want to get sued lol
eul works for valve so they kept that name
Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-15 08:09:33
August 15 2012 07:59 GMT
#16746
On August 15 2012 16:58 Dead9 wrote:
they don't call it guinsoo's any more because they don't want to get sued lol
eul works for valve so they kept that name


Ahh really. Well if you put it that way, that makes things sound better .

Though is it really the main reason? I mean, it would be silly for Guinsoo to sue a very liked game basically advertising his name (precautions I guess considering Blizzard tried to sue Valve?) or they could have asked his permission to keep the name (I think they should if possible).

It is kind of silly for me to get upset over this but it's a bit saddening considering how positive their relationship was before (at least AFAIK Guinsoo gave DotA to Icefrog on friendly terms).
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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
August 15 2012 08:14 GMT
#16747
On August 15 2012 16:59 Goldfish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 16:58 Dead9 wrote:
they don't call it guinsoo's any more because they don't want to get sued lol
eul works for valve so they kept that name


Ahh really. Well if you put it that way, that makes things sound better .

Though is it really the main reason? I mean, it would be silly for Guinsoo to sue a very liked game basically advertising his name (precautions I guess considering Blizzard tried to sue Valve?) or they could have asked his permission to keep the name (I think they should if possible).

It is kind of silly for me to get upset over this but it's a bit saddening considering how positive their relationship was before (at least AFAIK Guinsoo gave DotA to Icefrog on friendly terms).

that was a long time ago, and guinsoo didnt exactly give dota away.
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 15 2012 08:22 GMT
#16748
On August 15 2012 16:51 konadora wrote:
anyone saw that video navi posted of dendi's tinker going march/dagon 5/hsm/laser/refresh spam?

insane shit yo. and in dendi fpview too.

yeah it's pretty sweet. Video for those who haven't seen it.
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
August 15 2012 08:28 GMT
#16749
yeah guinsoo works for riot now and he didn't give the map away
if i remember correctly what happened was guinsoo was lead developer and had full control with icefrog and co under him, but then guinsoo took a long break so icefrog and a couple other devs started editing and releasing the map themselves
Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-15 08:53:57
August 15 2012 08:52 GMT
#16750
Ahh, I see. Thanks for info , I didn't know that. I did remember how long it took for 5.84 (I think Guinsoo's last version or at least the last one with his name on it AFAIK) to get to 6.0x so that makes sense.
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gaymon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1023 Posts
August 15 2012 09:19 GMT
#16751
Guinsoos more or less went inactive and stopped updating and his designteam tried to get the map and hired Icefrog to unlock it (In WC3 it was possible to break maps making them not openable in the editor),
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
August 15 2012 09:32 GMT
#16752
On August 15 2012 06:16 Alur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 06:02 Kipsate wrote:
thats why I said I think

Quite easy to take 5 seconds and be condescending though I guess.

Stop speaking rubish
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Well played sir
WriterXiao8~~
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
August 15 2012 10:09 GMT
#16753
Full story about the "Coup d'état": http://www.playdota.com/forums/blog.php?b=147107
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-15 10:10:40
August 15 2012 10:10 GMT
#16754
I believe one of the old devs posted a rather interesting and detailed story about how the game went from Guinsoo to Icefrog on Reddit, which was then quoted here many pages ago. I have no idea how to find it though, sorry.

edit: and the guy above me posts it while I'm typing this, like a boss.
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lozarian
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1043 Posts
August 15 2012 10:11 GMT
#16755
Yeah, guinsoo just went afk from life for the second time - he'd already stopped for months to play WoW without telling anyone once before, then ice broke the protection on the map so development could continue - primarily under Mantis' command, then mantis gave up, ice took over, and dota evolved into awesome.

Basically guinsoo awoled, ice opened the map, mantis worked on it, guin was pissed at ice (somewhat understandably I guess), then he and pend decided to screw the pooch, make LoL and shut down DA.com, ice had an argument with pendragon, left DA.com and made playdota.
For every battle honour a thousand heroes die alone, unsung, and unremembered.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
August 15 2012 10:36 GMT
#16756
They should make that into a movie.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-15 10:43:07
August 15 2012 10:42 GMT
#16757
There was quite a long period between Icefrog taking over DotA and Pendragon & co going to make LoL. It wasn't 'because Icefrog took DotA' that they made LoL.

They also initially never wanted to shut down DA.com. This was around the time that Pendragon started working on LoL and he wanted to commercialise DA, advertising LoL etc. Icefrog disagreed with this and he left to make playdota.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
August 15 2012 10:43 GMT
#16758
On August 15 2012 19:36 Itsmedudeman wrote:
They should make that into a movie.


Sequel to The Social Network. :D
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Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
August 15 2012 10:44 GMT
#16759
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ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
August 15 2012 10:49 GMT
#16760
On August 15 2012 19:10 Firebolt145 wrote:
I believe one of the old devs posted a rather interesting and detailed story about how the game went from Guinsoo to Icefrog on Reddit, which was then quoted here many pages ago. I have no idea how to find it though, sorry.

edit: and the guy above me posts it while I'm typing this, like a boss.

Search function ftw :D
On August 15 2012 19:43 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 19:36 Itsmedudeman wrote:
They should make that into a movie.


Sequel to The Social Network. :D

Those were my thoughts while reading the story. But from what perspective? Guinsoo, losing his project to his underlings; Neichus out of his element as head of everything; Icefrog slowly moving from a background character to protagonist...

The possibilities ^^
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
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