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Posts that relate to topics with their own thread, such as in News, Tournaments or Strategy should go in those threads.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34510 Posts
August 14 2012 10:07 GMT
#16621
I would also filter by well known pro names, there are many terrible players in the Very High range that people should not learn from :<
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Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
August 14 2012 11:17 GMT
#16622
I think watching pro replays is better for players who are already pretty good. You get no commentary, so you have to be good enough to realize why they are doing what they are doing, and if they are even playing seriously, Sing_sing has said that his builds on ladder is "crap". Purges videos are nice in the sense that he explains everything he does. He's not a pro player, but he's good enough that he's definitely worth copying for people in normal.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34510 Posts
August 14 2012 11:24 GMT
#16623
Yeah, watching Purge's stream or videos are probably one of the first ways I'd recommend to new players.
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Cool Cat
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1644 Posts
August 14 2012 11:33 GMT
#16624
If you are willing to pay a bit of money, buying tournament tickets for the replays is a very helpful way to learn. In my experience, most players in the very high skill bracket do not take pub games seriously at all, so watching those replays may not necessarily be that helpful.
LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
August 14 2012 12:02 GMT
#16625
Translation: 99% of high level players do their best sing sing impersonation. I will never forget the razor that went vlads...

But yea, pro-game replays much better. Some items are situational, but in general a suboptimal build will still be good, and at a level where you don't know a better build it won't really matter .
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
August 14 2012 15:54 GMT
#16626
A fantastic way to filter for useful replays is this link here:
http://www.dota2wiki.com/wiki/User:Redefining_history/Steam

It links a huge amount of current active pros stats.dota2 profiles which will let you stalk their games. I collected a list of replays for heros I wanted to learn like QoP (CLG.Pajkatt 20052673) and Spectre (IG.Ferrari430 Spectre 27433799), Its kinda like SC2 replay sites in a way.
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-14 16:52:06
August 14 2012 16:49 GMT
#16627
hahahahaha

off reddit:

+ Show Spoiler +
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edit: reuploaded so that it'll resize, holy crap I thought I got a warning :<
ffxiv enjoyer
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
August 14 2012 16:50 GMT
#16628
the wet dream of a rubick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
August 14 2012 16:52 GMT
#16629
18 couriers doesn't seem like a big investment (unless the enemy team sees it). Huh. Funny strat. ^^
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
August 14 2012 16:52 GMT
#16630
That's where kotl shines
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
August 14 2012 16:53 GMT
#16631
I think I just heard the meta shatter.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
August 14 2012 16:55 GMT
#16632
I think creeps should just go around through the middle, at least in dota1 they would I'm pretty sure. Pathfinding bug C:
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Cool Cat
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1644 Posts
August 14 2012 17:57 GMT
#16633
On August 15 2012 01:53 PassiveAce wrote:
I think I just heard the meta shatter.

In Dota 1 tournaments, permanent creep blocking, such as by using earthshaker's fissure, was either explicitly banned or considered to be very bad mannered. I am not sure about Dota 2, but I am sure it is similar.
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
August 14 2012 18:12 GMT
#16634
On August 15 2012 02:57 Cool Cat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 01:53 PassiveAce wrote:
I think I just heard the meta shatter.

In Dota 1 tournaments, permanent creep blocking, such as by using earthshaker's fissure, was either explicitly banned or considered to be very bad mannered. I am not sure about Dota 2, but I am sure it is similar.

nope, everything is alowed
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
August 14 2012 18:20 GMT
#16635
it's not exactly an op strat
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13197 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-14 18:33:26
August 14 2012 18:33 GMT
#16636
omg that wave of creeps

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Hates Fun🤔
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
August 14 2012 18:48 GMT
#16637
On August 15 2012 03:12 cilinder007 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 02:57 Cool Cat wrote:
On August 15 2012 01:53 PassiveAce wrote:
I think I just heard the meta shatter.

In Dota 1 tournaments, permanent creep blocking, such as by using earthshaker's fissure, was either explicitly banned or considered to be very bad mannered. I am not sure about Dota 2, but I am sure it is similar.

nope, everything is alowed


Not always:

Creep Blocking
Creep blocking permanently is not allowed but creep slowing/delay or luring is allowed. It is not allowed to block creeps with the help of spells, such as fissure, sprout etc. it is only allowed to use the hero model to intercept with creeps (accidental blocks are okay, as long as the fissure, for example was directed at an opposing hero).

From: http://prodota2.com/rules.html

I don't think most tournaments do this though, I was surprised to see it in the Pro Dota ruleset when I was checking for something else.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
August 14 2012 19:06 GMT
#16638
One of the oldest pissing in pub strats (dota1). It will be fixed no doubt.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
August 14 2012 20:01 GMT
#16639
Rumors flying around saying that the league of legends season 3 will have 25 million prize pool overall.
that is pretty crazy... I like it tho, more money to esports.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
August 14 2012 20:03 GMT
#16640
On August 15 2012 05:01 Kznn wrote:
Rumors flying around saying that the league of legends season 3 will have 25 million prize pool overall.
that is pretty crazy... I like it tho, more money to esports.

To clarify. The prize pool is smaller than 25 million, although the full Riot Support (including technological upgrades, paying for flights and accomodation and salaries to teams) will likely reach 25 million or more.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
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