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YODA_
Profile Joined June 2012
593 Posts
August 10 2012 01:23 GMT
#16221
On August 10 2012 10:11 Heh_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 10:02 YODA_ wrote:
Sing with a huge PL game, was down 1-7 by 10 minutes, clawed back, farmed for 40 minutes, shows up to team fight with radiance, manta, diffusal, and heart and just rapes the entire team in multiple team fights, wins game after being down a rax and several towers, and down almost 20 kills at one point lol.

He had 708 gpm at the end of the game lol. And he kept baiting the opponent to waste spells on illusions haha.

The illusion vs illusion battle was awesome lol.

I don't even think he was baiting them into wasting spells.....they just had no other way of getting rid of them because they were so tanky and did so much damage. Multiple times they actually HAD to pop bkb because otherwise they would die to the illusions. I've never seen such a farmed PL ever. He also countered shotgun morph in the end with a dagon 5.
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
August 10 2012 02:03 GMT
#16222
If you didnt see the Darer vs LGD game watch this. Amazing game, loved Darer's draft. Everything about it screams early game agression.

+ Show Spoiler +
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Shichibukai
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden355 Posts
August 10 2012 02:04 GMT
#16223
On August 10 2012 10:23 YODA_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 10:11 Heh_ wrote:
On August 10 2012 10:02 YODA_ wrote:
Sing with a huge PL game, was down 1-7 by 10 minutes, clawed back, farmed for 40 minutes, shows up to team fight with radiance, manta, diffusal, and heart and just rapes the entire team in multiple team fights, wins game after being down a rax and several towers, and down almost 20 kills at one point lol.

He had 708 gpm at the end of the game lol. And he kept baiting the opponent to waste spells on illusions haha.

The illusion vs illusion battle was awesome lol.

I don't even think he was baiting them into wasting spells.....they just had no other way of getting rid of them because they were so tanky and did so much damage. Multiple times they actually HAD to pop bkb because otherwise they would die to the illusions. I've never seen such a farmed PL ever. He also countered shotgun morph in the end with a dagon 5.

Link to VOD with timestamp please? :>
EnvyUK
Profile Joined September 2011
England467 Posts
August 10 2012 02:14 GMT
#16224
Well it's confirmed.

Tickets for the 3 day Seattle event are sold out. Lucky for you, all of the games can be watched, live or as replays, in Dota 2 for free.
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
August 10 2012 02:29 GMT
#16225
On August 10 2012 10:02 YODA_ wrote:
Sing with a huge PL game, was down 1-7 by 10 minutes, clawed back, farmed for 40 minutes, shows up to team fight with radiance, manta, diffusal, and heart and just rapes the entire team in multiple team fights, wins game after being down a rax and several towers, and down almost 20 kills at one point lol.

A good PL who has space to farm should be able to max out at 40ish minutes, meaning radiance travels manta diffusal2 heart butterfly, and then of course you might be the strongest possible hero without rapiers. Even assuming you have bad allies who try to steal your farm, but also assuming you don't have a terrible start.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 02:48:42
August 10 2012 02:39 GMT
#16226
On August 10 2012 11:03 Benjef wrote:
If you didnt see the Darer vs LGD game watch this. Amazing game, loved Darer's draft. Everything about it screams early game agression.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVvSEqs6AKA&feature=plcp

lol i couldn't. music too bad.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
August 10 2012 02:41 GMT
#16227
On August 10 2012 11:29 igotmyown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 10:02 YODA_ wrote:
Sing with a huge PL game, was down 1-7 by 10 minutes, clawed back, farmed for 40 minutes, shows up to team fight with radiance, manta, diffusal, and heart and just rapes the entire team in multiple team fights, wins game after being down a rax and several towers, and down almost 20 kills at one point lol.

A good PL who has space to farm should be able to max out at 40ish minutes, meaning radiance travels manta diffusal2 heart butterfly, and then of course you might be the strongest possible hero without rapiers. Even assuming you have bad allies who try to steal your farm, but also assuming you don't have a terrible start.

PL's one of the hardest carries in the game so long they don't have Gorgon/OD yea? Your mass illusions just wreck freaking everything and it's really hard to pin down and focus PL. He also burns mana retardedly fast with diffusal too. Only problem is he literally needs like 30 minutes of free farm to be good unless he's getting fed.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
August 10 2012 02:48 GMT
#16228
PLs problem is how farm intensive he is, he's a melee version of weaver to me
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
The Great Taste
Profile Joined January 2012
389 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 03:31:41
August 10 2012 03:31 GMT
#16229
On August 10 2012 11:48 Unleashing wrote:
PLs problem is how farm intensive he is, he's a melee version of weaver to me


Weaver is nowhere near as farm intensive as PL. Radiance build for weaver is not the "only" build like it used to be. Weaver is a very strong midgame dps hero with items like treads, medallion or drums.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 03:50:14
August 10 2012 03:49 GMT
#16230
On August 10 2012 12:31 The Great Taste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 11:48 Unleashing wrote:
PLs problem is how farm intensive he is, he's a melee version of weaver to me


Weaver is nowhere near as farm intensive as PL. Radiance build for weaver is not the "only" build like it used to be. Weaver is a very strong midgame dps hero with items like treads, medallion or drums.


medallion + phase boots + yasha is pretty rediculous on weaver for the mid game. phase boots to allow you a perma speed buff between sujuchi and phasing. but i think i might be the only person to bother with phase on weaver lol.
YODA_
Profile Joined June 2012
593 Posts
August 10 2012 03:50 GMT
#16231
On August 10 2012 11:29 igotmyown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 10:02 YODA_ wrote:
Sing with a huge PL game, was down 1-7 by 10 minutes, clawed back, farmed for 40 minutes, shows up to team fight with radiance, manta, diffusal, and heart and just rapes the entire team in multiple team fights, wins game after being down a rax and several towers, and down almost 20 kills at one point lol.

A good PL who has space to farm should be able to max out at 40ish minutes, meaning radiance travels manta diffusal2 heart butterfly, and then of course you might be the strongest possible hero without rapiers. Even assuming you have bad allies who try to steal your farm, but also assuming you don't have a terrible start.

Normally yes, but he was left to solo vs a ds in lane, and had literally nothing but boots at the ~15 minute mark, and had died about 5 times. At about ~20 minutes, he actually got enough stats for his illusions to be able to tank jungle, and from there he just farmed really well and avoided ganks. By the end of the game he had 700 cs.
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
August 10 2012 04:00 GMT
#16232
I had a rather surprising match today. I have been trying to become better with morpling so just -ap'ing him when ever I play. Well, I had a match where I did pretty bad early, but I managed to dodge Linas skills 85% of the time. First time being able to do so to that degree. But what really made me happy was Lina accusing me of hacking multiple times. I've had that happen in other games, but never in DotA 2. I had a big smile on my face when ever I read that :-)

Morphling is such a fun hero to play, will be quite enjoyable when can l play him reasonably well.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
August 10 2012 04:01 GMT
#16233
he shoulda got mask of madness to carry even more
mask of madness #1 esp on void
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
August 10 2012 04:06 GMT
#16234
On August 10 2012 13:01 FinestHour wrote:
he shoulda got mask of madness to carry even more
mask of madness #1 esp on void

Quick, make some graphs comparing the increase in damage output from MoM compared to other items to back up your claim!
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Dankleteer
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1430 Posts
August 10 2012 04:13 GMT
#16235
On August 10 2012 06:07 .AK wrote:
Since there was talk of a noobie group being started up, I'll throw my name out there.

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198004861670
~60 games played, roles I like so far are melee strength carries and support.
I am on a lot when I don't have to work/school.
Voice communication really preferred, especially when playing with newer people to go over plays talk out strategies, etc.

Additionally, since our hero threads are very lacking atm can I post hero specific questions here or is that better suited for simple answers. Look forward to playing with TL.


I'd like to team up with some noobies, I have trash internet right now but at the start of September I'll be down to make some noob parties. I like playing gankers with the occasional agi carry.
fresh chops
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 04:31:51
August 10 2012 04:29 GMT
#16236
Since there seems to be interest. I'll make a thread sometime soon. I want to put some effort into though and make it look nice. regarding a wanting to get better practice group.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
August 10 2012 04:43 GMT
#16237
Just remembered, I know in the league of legends subforum they have a specific thread for lol players that are learning dota. Could try that out, you would be basically all starting out in the same boat. Last i remembered it seemed to be fairly popular
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
August 10 2012 05:15 GMT
#16238
Perhaps you can make it a bit more general as well. So, you can have practice groups, but allow for people to add themselves to a list for others to play with. I know for myself, almost none of my friends play dota 2 so having a source that people can look to for people to add would be convenient. I think in the early stage of dota 2 beta, there was a list on Tl but probably vanished when many more people joined.

Oh and Xizor, another idea would be to have a dedicated dota 2 channel for it. Tl channel is nice and all but quite often, dead. So might make it easier to find people if there was a single channel for the newbies to find players to team-up with.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
August 10 2012 05:18 GMT
#16239
i just remembered who prince xizor is

shadow of the empire pretty good book
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
August 10 2012 06:02 GMT
#16240
On August 10 2012 13:43 FinestHour wrote:
Just remembered, I know in the league of legends subforum they have a specific thread for lol players that are learning dota. Could try that out, you would be basically all starting out in the same boat. Last i remembered it seemed to be fairly popular


LiquidParty is pretty dead. There seems to be a surge of activity though so we might be able to get a game going.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
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