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Corr
Denmark796 Posts
Void, Mortred and N'aix are much more straightfoward albeit also weaker in laning and counterpushing. | ||
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cilinder007
Slovenia7251 Posts
On August 10 2012 01:22 Kipsate wrote: The only thing linkens has going for it is that it has a good buildup in having a pers, however with ring of aquila and a bottle+wand you should be fine really Don't forget that Manta removes debuffs aswell, usefull for Silences(e.g Night Stalker, or even Drow Ranger if there happens to be one in the game) or other nasty debuffs. ow and if you are pro you can dodge stuns/projectiles with it thats more of a ping/delay thing really, no matter how pro you are if you have 300 ping there is no way in hell you can dodge things with manta | ||
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Stancel
Singapore15360 Posts
On August 10 2012 01:45 cilinder007 wrote: thats more of a ping/delay thing really, no matter how pro you are if you have 300 ping there is no way in hell you can dodge things with manta pretty sure I dodged some stuff with manta in some tlihs and I had 300 ping!  | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On August 10 2012 02:19 Qbek wrote: You can often predict stuff will happen and dodge it no problem. Also with many projectiles you need to just disjoint them. Not the easiest thing to do in most cases but doable no matter the ping if you can nostradamus your way into GG Manta doesn't disjoint projectiles IIRC. It only dodges projectiles that hit during the invuln time. It doesn't disjoint projectiles the way blinks do. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On August 10 2012 03:09 TheYango wrote: Manta doesn't disjoint projectiles IIRC. It only dodges projectiles that hit during the invuln time. It doesn't disjoint projectiles the way blinks do. yeah thats a hold over from mirror image in war 3. it makes you not exist for a little bit. the hero technically is not there for that brief period of time. you also lose XP for anything killed during the manta split ( at least in war 3) | ||
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Bleak
Turkey3059 Posts
I noticed in my first couple games that he is also very fragile, so I started to build 2x bracers for him especially when the opposing team has huge burst dmg potential. Is this a good way of playing this hero? Would it be good to go for 2x talismans instead for when opposing team isn't that burst heavy? Or in general, more survivability for a support hero like him is good? I'm kinda leaning on this last point, but I wanna get some ideas. | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
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Bleak
Turkey3059 Posts
On August 10 2012 03:32 Qbek wrote: ^ I generally go blood stone on Leshrac so boosters are best solutions to those problems. Once you have BS you no longer have to worry about mana and it gives you a lot of HP too I already go for Bloodstone. My concern is for early to midgame where when certain heroes attack you, you just kinda sit there and die and there's not much you can do. He has a low hp. | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
On August 10 2012 03:44 Bleak wrote: I already go for Bloodstone. My concern is for early to midgame where when certain heroes attack you, you just kinda sit there and die and there's not much you can do. He has a low hp. 2xbracer is similar to a vit booster, just go for it instead. If you need even more, maybe play a bit more careful until you get point booster. Yes you have low HP and you have to get close to use edict well, but really you should focus on towers until you get more beefy, which means going to a lane you have 2 heroes on, forcing the enemy out and taking down the tower. with tower gold, you should be good on HP | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
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Bleak
Turkey3059 Posts
On August 10 2012 03:49 Qbek wrote: 2xbracer is similar to a vit booster, just go for it instead. If you need even more, maybe play a bit more careful until you get point booster. Yes you have low HP and you have to get close to use edict well, but really you should focus on towers until you get more beefy, which means going to a lane you have 2 heroes on, forcing the enemy out and taking down the tower. with tower gold, you should be good on HP Gotcha thanks a lot. I guess I'm gonna go for boosters in general first now because they lead to Bloodstone nicely. | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
On August 10 2012 03:51 Bleak wrote: Gotcha thanks a lot. I guess I'm gonna go for boosters in general first now because they lead to Bloodstone nicely. YEah the point is bracers really do nothing for you later unless you make drums and that's only one. Ofc get bracers if can't find any money, they have very cheap parts so they are great if you're underfarmed. But if you're not struggling just go for boosters | ||
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Heh_
Singapore2712 Posts
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RoyGBiv_13
United States1275 Posts
On August 10 2012 03:58 Heh_ wrote: I've seen leshrac go for drums. While leshrac isn't the best hero to wield drums, it is pretty easy to upgrade a bracer into drums for some nice stats and movespeed. Just get 1 bracer instead of 2; I find that 2 of them take up too much inventory space. I see no issue in drum on lesh. Lesh can farm quickly, so delaying core isn't that bad. Furhtermore, he thrives off of movespeed in getting in position in teamfights to lay that aoe damage down. To me, drums on lesh should be a nobrainer. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On August 10 2012 04:05 RoyGBiv_13 wrote: I see no issue in drum on lesh. Lesh can farm quickly, so delaying core isn't that bad. Furhtermore, he thrives off of movespeed in getting in position in teamfights to lay that aoe damage down. To me, drums on lesh should be a nobrainer. drums cuts into time it takes to get blood stone and bkb. and once lesh gets both of those typically it means someone else has drums. | ||
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Nub4ever
Canada1981 Posts
On August 10 2012 04:08 PrinceXizor wrote: drums cuts into time it takes to get blood stone and bkb. and once lesh gets both of those typically it means someone else has drums. I don't even consider leshrac as a hero who has a solid core of items. Unless I'm crushing the game I don't get a blood stone, if they have some sort of decent phys dmg output and not a ton of magic I don't end up going bkb either. However I feel drum is a very very good item on him. It's plenty of hp, mana ms which is really important and very good on lesh seeing as he has 315 base ms and the as doesn't hurt as he typically gets lots of +int items so his auto's aren't really that weak even . Lesh is really flexible in terms of items. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On August 10 2012 04:08 PrinceXizor wrote: drums cuts into time it takes to get blood stone and bkb. and once lesh gets both of those typically it means someone else has drums. Drums isn't a one-of item. Multiple drums is fine because the aura doesn't comprise a huge portion of the gold value, and it's more cost-efficient to build multiple drums than to recharge existing drums (and if those drum charges don't get used, your drum holders are doing something wrong). | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On August 10 2012 05:12 TheYango wrote: Drums isn't a one-of item. Multiple drums is fine because the aura doesn't comprise a huge portion of the gold value, and it's more cost-efficient to build multiple drums than to recharge existing drums (and if those drum charges don't get used, your drum holders are doing something wrong). When leshrac has farmed blood stone + bkb its because he's not being run as support and won't get drums, OR its a one sided game OR it's end game. all situations where drums are not the best choice for a next item. | ||
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SilverStar
Sweden18511 Posts
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