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Acritter
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On August 26 2014 22:53 spacer wrote: Man getting to 0 mmr takes so long, I give up Just dont play ranked, let everyone assume you're 0 | ||
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goody153
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On August 26 2014 22:05 TyrionSC2 wrote: 728 pages till next CM tip! HYPE ! and wow rabbit for $130K .. how much are other chinese players paid ? 130k seems a lot | ||
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idonthinksobro
3138 Posts
On August 26 2014 23:08 babysimba wrote: So i'm currently in a game with 0 lvl justapoxe for lvl 11 pl and lvl 0 wall for lvl 33 ds. its fine to take stats over juxtapose. | ||
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Laserist
Turkey4269 Posts
On August 26 2014 23:09 goody153 wrote: HYPE ! and wow rabbit for $130K .. how much are other chinese players paid ? 130k seems a lot Don't want to ruin the hype but probably that is the sum which Newbee paid to LGD for transfer. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On August 26 2014 23:08 babysimba wrote: So i'm currently in a game with 0 lvl justapoxe for lvl 11 pl and lvl 0 wall for lvl 33 ds. hows ds level 33? | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
On August 26 2014 23:12 idonthinksobro wrote: its fine to take stats over juxtapose. not really at lvl11 u atleast want 1 lvl in it | ||
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
pure skill | ||
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lprk
Poland2249 Posts
On August 26 2014 23:09 goody153 wrote: HYPE ! and wow rabbit for $130K .. how much are other chinese players paid ? 130k seems a lot From http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/dota-2-general/458920-xtt-interview-translated-from-178com "Currently there are five top-tier teams in China, with players in these teams earning around 500,000 yuan annually, a couple even twice that." Xuntao currently belongs to a top-eight team, HGT. Having played pro for two years, Xuntao reveals his salary is now about 200,000 yuan. | ||
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
wow 500k yuan is 50 grand a year | ||
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goody153
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i thought that case was only in korea with sc On August 26 2014 23:29 Laserist wrote: Don't want to ruin the hype but probably that is the sum which Newbee paid to LGD for transfer. Ah damn  | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
50K is very passable for a high level player as long as he does't have to cover travel or anything like that. I like this system better than the Korea system of paying everyone nothing until they make it big. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On August 26 2014 22:59 Acritter wrote: To be perfectly honest, max Upheaval Warlock seems crazy strong if you have a team that can somewhat support it. The critical piece of the puzzle is your teammates. You need to have heroes that can really benefit from the honestly crazy zone control that the spell provides. Sniper comes to mind, for example, as does Lifestealer. Enigma has some potential too, but I personally wouldn't pick him because it gives your team zero early game. Hell, Dark Seer seems like he'd be amazing, with his Vac+Wall just doing obscene amounts of damage, and same with Disruptor. I wouldn't pick Warlock out of the blue, or with heroes like Void and Bloodseeker, but in the right lineup I can see him being crazy strong. The thing is, because of the way Upheaval works as a spell (slow % is dependent on channel time, not on time in the AoE), you don't need to max it out that fast. At low levels, almost all heroes are going to have only 300-350 MS, so they will reach minimum MS at ~65-70% slow. After the initial buildup, the spell's slow % stays the same for the rest of the duration. While going from rank 1 to rank 2, this changes the time needed for the slow to reach minimum MS from 10s to 5, going from rank 2-3 the difference is only 5s to 4s. I think Upheaval is a fantastic skill, but the incremental gain of the 3rd and 4th ranks isn't that high until there are heroes with higher MS in the game. | ||
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
On August 27 2014 00:08 TheYango wrote: The thing is, because of the way Upheaval works as a spell (slow % is dependent on channel time, not on time in the AoE), you don't need to max it out that fast. At low levels, almost all heroes are going to have only 300-350 MS, so they will reach minimum MS at ~65-70% slow. After the initial buildup, the spell's slow % stays the same for the rest of the duration. While going from rank 1 to rank 2, this changes the time needed for the slow to reach minimum MS from 10s to 5, going from rank 2-3 the difference is only 5s to 4s. I think Upheaval is a fantastic skill, but the incremental gain of the 3rd and 4th ranks isn't that high until there are heroes with higher MS in the game. If you're playing as a support role, then you're not getting to level 7 before the other team has finished Phase Boots and Drums. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 27 2014 00:16 Acritter wrote: If you're playing as a support role, then you're not getting to level 7 before the other team has finished Phase Boots and Drums. Wait, the other team has supports too, so someone has brown boots over there too. And if you get off a couple seconds of channel, it will still slow them down enough. Orb of venom only has a 12% slow, which level 1 upheaval gets after 1 second of channeling. The carry is going to care, even with phase boosts and drums. | ||
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idonthinksobro
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
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crms
United States11933 Posts
On August 26 2014 23:56 Plansix wrote: 50K is very passable for a high level player as long as he does't have to cover travel or anything like that. I like this system better than the Korea system of paying everyone nothing until they make it big. he's using GBP, it's ~$82,000 USD which is pretty damn nice for playing video games in China. I think the average Chinese salary is like $4,000 USD a year. Though not sure how meaningful that 'average' is in China where the income gap is wider than Michael Strahans teeth. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Also, we can assume both sides have teams doing stuff. On August 27 2014 00:30 teddyoojo wrote: upheavel is a very good spell but ever since they made warlock dot the best spell in dota its stupid to not go that I don't think anyone is arguing getting it over maxing the Dot. | ||
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