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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-07 05:55:34
June 07 2012 05:53 GMT
#12281
http://www.playdota.com/guides/comic-guide-for-gyrocopter

[image loading]


Just make sure to get Poor Man's Shield – an item invented by Bill Gates. Sometimes it's useful, sometimes it's useless. Just like Microsoft!
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
hideo
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1641 Posts
June 07 2012 06:03 GMT
#12282
Kinda buggy release, but I guess that's to be expected.

Quite possibly one of my favourite bugs ever... CK's reality rift works with allied illusions.
zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
June 07 2012 07:02 GMT
#12283
so, does anyone have any advice for playing as CK and PA?

core items, playstyle, etc?
I AM THE UNIVERSAL CONSTANT
Comogury
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States412 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-07 07:02:59
June 07 2012 07:02 GMT
#12284
On June 07 2012 14:24 FinestHour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2012 14:24 Bandino wrote:
On June 07 2012 14:15 paper wrote:
On June 07 2012 13:33 EchoZ wrote:
Nessaj!


wtf is nessaj take ur noob LoL champion out of here lol


Actually was just his name in Dota that icefrog gave him. Just how skeleton king was Leoric etc.


LOL

oh my
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
June 07 2012 07:04 GMT
#12285
On June 07 2012 14:51 Doraemon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2012 14:15 paper wrote:
On June 07 2012 13:33 EchoZ wrote:
Nessaj!


wtf is nessaj take ur noob LoL champion out of here lol


haha. i see what you did there.

Show nested quote +
On June 07 2012 14:25 MrHoon wrote:
haha how long ago was that already?
Has he posted since then?


few months back? i think i saw a couple of his posts after about 2 weeks...just LOL


I'm quite sure he's causing trouble in the jD forums.

and by causing trouble, I mean the usual posts and... stuff.
ffxiv enjoyer
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
June 07 2012 07:05 GMT
#12286
On June 07 2012 14:24 Bandino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2012 14:15 paper wrote:
On June 07 2012 13:33 EchoZ wrote:
Nessaj!


wtf is nessaj take ur noob LoL champion out of here lol


Actually that was his given name in Dota. Just how skeleton king was Leoric etc.

WOOOOOOOOOOOSH
Moderator
zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
June 07 2012 07:18 GMT
#12287
On June 07 2012 16:05 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2012 14:24 Bandino wrote:
On June 07 2012 14:15 paper wrote:
On June 07 2012 13:33 EchoZ wrote:
Nessaj!


wtf is nessaj take ur noob LoL champion out of here lol


Actually that was his given name in Dota. Just how skeleton king was Leoric etc.

WOOOOOOOOOOOSH


WHO IS MANGIX???????
I AM THE UNIVERSAL CONSTANT
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
June 07 2012 07:24 GMT
#12288
you guys
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
June 07 2012 07:26 GMT
#12289
Who's Aurel Vlaicu anyway, are they copying HoN now
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
June 07 2012 07:43 GMT
#12290
Those fixes to bots are so minor, why aren't they actually FIXING them, really sucks for those of us too newb to play in real games yet. Bots are so frickin passive and don't follow the game at all. Sometimes you ping a tower and bots don't do shit, sometimes you ping a hero and a bot with 5% hp run in to kill it alone. Sometimes you can almost kill the whole enemy team yourself and the opponents have lost every single tower, but the bots in your team are all standing by roshan spamming "Doing roshan" in chat without actually engaging him.

They really need to add the ability for bots to understand simple phrases such as the ones bots themselves are doing, so that if you write "all push top", ALL the bots do it. That could actually make the bots decent training without every game taking 50+ minutes if you don't pick a carry.
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
June 07 2012 07:48 GMT
#12291
On June 07 2012 16:24 flamewheel wrote:
you guys


make this thread/forum awesome, amirite
ffxiv enjoyer
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
June 07 2012 07:48 GMT
#12292
On June 07 2012 16:43 Tobberoth wrote:
Those fixes to bots are so minor, why aren't they actually FIXING them, really sucks for those of us too newb to play in real games yet. Bots are so frickin passive and don't follow the game at all. Sometimes you ping a tower and bots don't do shit, sometimes you ping a hero and a bot with 5% hp run in to kill it alone. Sometimes you can almost kill the whole enemy team yourself and the opponents have lost every single tower, but the bots in your team are all standing by roshan spamming "Doing roshan" in chat without actually engaging him.

They really need to add the ability for bots to understand simple phrases such as the ones bots themselves are doing, so that if you write "all push top", ALL the bots do it. That could actually make the bots decent training without every game taking 50+ minutes if you don't pick a carry.

i don't think u understand how hard it is to program a bot in a game like dota lol
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
June 07 2012 07:53 GMT
#12293
some how got a game with ReaverXai, creator of /r/dota2, at 2 AM. And some how i random alchemist and won vs his stack... AND SOMEHOW HE KNOWS ME ~_~.... scary world lolol
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
hideo
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1641 Posts
June 07 2012 07:57 GMT
#12294
On June 07 2012 16:02 zeehar wrote:
so, does anyone have any advice for playing as CK and PA?

core items, playstyle, etc?


CK is valued for his stun early game, and for his massive natural DPS potential mid to late.

To abuse his stun/rift, you need some kind of mana solution like bottle.
His DPS potential usually manifests as pretty imba tower and base-wrecking speed because the long CD on his ult makes it impractical to use in ganks + small fights, and they're wiped out very quickly by AoE in teamfights.

Drums are great as usual. SnY split into manta and halberd is in vogue. Manta is considered nice because of crit inheritance and rift compatibility. AC and heart are pretty undisputed late luxuries. A lot of people like the cookiecutter battlefury farming build, and others like armlet, because the active state is inherited by your ult images permanently.


PA for me is just all about getting to quadruple-digit crit ASAP and ending the game at that point. I'm a huge believer in rapier + aegis being core on her in games that drag, and I strongly believe that the only things PA needs to shine is raw HP and raw +DMG.

I like vanguard/armlet/basher-type midgame builds over battlefury rush, BKB + lifesteal hard carry farming builds. She's not a ricing 1v5 hard carry imo, she's an assassin-type like riki/ursa/troll/etc that excels at solo-killing and support-gibbing from a very early point in the game.

I prefer stacking HP instead of going for BKB because her playstyle is so chase-heavy and CD-dependent, and because pubs are way too smart about force staff/cyclone stick/ghost scepter nowadays.

My typical build:
RoH -> phase boots -> basher (str belt first) -> complete vg (you can do the vg before basher if you're on back foot) -> abyssal -> rapier/rosh (-> farm heart(s) + mroe rapiers for the lulz)

I get 1 point in each skill, another point in dagger for the guaranteed last hit, max blink strike first for dat cd, max dagger second then blur third, take ult at 10/11.
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-07 07:59:15
June 07 2012 07:58 GMT
#12295
On June 07 2012 16:48 Dead9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2012 16:43 Tobberoth wrote:
Those fixes to bots are so minor, why aren't they actually FIXING them, really sucks for those of us too newb to play in real games yet. Bots are so frickin passive and don't follow the game at all. Sometimes you ping a tower and bots don't do shit, sometimes you ping a hero and a bot with 5% hp run in to kill it alone. Sometimes you can almost kill the whole enemy team yourself and the opponents have lost every single tower, but the bots in your team are all standing by roshan spamming "Doing roshan" in chat without actually engaging him.

They really need to add the ability for bots to understand simple phrases such as the ones bots themselves are doing, so that if you write "all push top", ALL the bots do it. That could actually make the bots decent training without every game taking 50+ minutes if you don't pick a carry.

i don't think u understand how hard it is to program a bot in a game like dota lol

I am well aware, but the bots are allready programmed and do fine, it's just that many of their decisions make no sense and could quite easily be hardcoded away.. for example, if they write doing roshan for 20 seconds and there's no indication of you going there, they should either do it themselves or leave. The bots already know how to push, gank and defend, the simple ability to trigger these tactics by writing in the chat would almost be enough.
Jimmy Raynor
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
902 Posts
June 07 2012 08:10 GMT
#12296
What are normal wait times for matchmaking? I have waited around 5 minutes and still can't find any games
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
June 07 2012 08:19 GMT
#12297
On June 07 2012 17:10 Jimmy Raynor wrote:
What are normal wait times for matchmaking? I have waited around 5 minutes and still can't find any games

I usually have to wait really really long. I assume I'm in the low priority queue, but I have no idea why, I've only played 5 MM games, winning 2 and losing 3, never abandoned or anything, so I wonder why Valve feels I shouldn't get any games. I suppose it's because I clicked the newb button when I started dota 2 the first time?

Sure does suck.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
June 07 2012 08:27 GMT
#12298
PA model is not that great. =(
I liked the skin she had in WC3, but I guess it's too close to Mercurial.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
June 07 2012 09:30 GMT
#12299
On June 07 2012 17:27 Noocta wrote:
PA model is not that great. =(
I liked the skin she had in WC3, but I guess it's too close to Mercurial.

yeah the PA model in D2 isn't as awesome but its alright imo.
WriterXiao8~~
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
June 07 2012 09:32 GMT
#12300
On June 07 2012 14:15 paper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2012 13:33 EchoZ wrote:
Nessaj!


wtf is nessaj take ur noob LoL champion out of here lol


bahahahahahaa. can we do this for every new released hero xDDD
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
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