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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
August 12 2014 15:34 GMT
#122641
On August 13 2014 00:08 Targe wrote:
u should just mute him and play as u like

That's how the invoker + storm + pudge mid trilanes happen.
super gg
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 12 2014 15:39 GMT
#122642
We aren't advocating playing like an idiot. At worst, you take your storm and head to the jungle, or roll that invoker safe lane/offlane. The game is already a hot mess anyways, how much more damage can you do?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-12 15:46:06
August 12 2014 15:42 GMT
#122643
Leeching xp til level 3 + brown boots, then roam, pray for the best and farm heroes instead of creeps is usually how I react in these situations. Either it fails and you lose, but you would have lost anyways, or it works and you can salvage the game.
"Works" okayish as far as damage control goes at low level as long as you have some crowd control.
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Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
August 12 2014 16:09 GMT
#122644
On August 13 2014 00:23 Logo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2014 00:07 Iplaythings wrote:
Speaking of lc, do you also experience what I've been bystander to in like 3 games in a row now, where LC wants to lane but some dude last icks carry and tells you to go jungle? seems to happen all the time


Happens to me all the time when I try to play Phoenix offlane. The worst being when people pick a jungler and 2 safe lane carries then expect me to solo offlane AND support AND be the source of the team's ability to not lose teamfights in the mid-game.

That's why you just go off and kill heroes to get all the gold you need. Ezpz.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
August 12 2014 16:14 GMT
#122645
On August 13 2014 00:34 cecek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2014 00:08 Targe wrote:
u should just mute him and play as u like

That's how the invoker + storm + pudge mid trilanes happen.

and i laugh every time xd
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
August 12 2014 16:25 GMT
#122646
Dont laugh targe it is sad.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
August 12 2014 16:40 GMT
#122647
i love playing against the classic dual mid no courier team. you know one of them is going to get greedy and feed fb. it always happens
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 12 2014 16:45 GMT
#122648
I need to lose mmr apparently
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Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
August 12 2014 17:19 GMT
#122649
I dont think there is anything known about if valve tries to avoid matching you with people you have muted, right?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 12 2014 17:24 GMT
#122650
I feel Valve gives no fucks. If you rated them poorly, I think they try to avoid matching you with them.

I remember back in the days of SC2 when I was upset I couldn't pick my server. After playing Dota, I think that might have been the thing Blizzard got right and improved over time. The language issue aside, some the number of players who DC and complain about lag during my games are amazing. And then I see they are connecting across like three regions or my ping to their server is like 300-800.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
August 12 2014 17:26 GMT
#122651
On August 12 2014 22:23 hootsushi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 22:22 DaMuffinman wrote:
What games are you talking about?


Rise of the Tomb Raider, Quantum Break, Sunset Overdrive for example.

dont know about the others but why would you ever want to play another tomb raider? I bought the most recent on steam sale for $20 and felt I overpaid about $19. It's the most cliche next gen gaming bullshit that makes the entire industry aids. Easy as fuck, gaming with training wheels, insanely bad voice acting and writing, stupid story, and repetitive as shit, but the graphics were nice. It felt like a chore to finish that game, and it felt more like watching some shitty B-movie that made me hit E every now and again then any sort of actual interesting game play.

Sorry, anytime someone mentions or praises the new tomb raider I am forced to go on a pointless tirade about how tomb raider is the quintessential, flagship title, to highlight everything wrong in the gaming industry today. For every 1 "Dark Souls" we get 900 "Tomb Raiders", it's fucking obnoxious.
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
August 12 2014 17:29 GMT
#122652
QTE games should be against the law or something.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-12 17:36:16
August 12 2014 17:35 GMT
#122653
Ok, Dark Souls in a niche game for a select audience. Most people do not like games that brutal or hard. And when I say most people, I mean the majority of the gaming audience, which is a billion dollar industry.

And second of all, games are like movies now. They make them for all types of people. They have Summer movie block busters like Tomb Raider, Gears and Uncharted. They have hipster indy games like Limbo, Thomas was Alone and Depression Quest. They have music games like Rockband and Audio Surf. Story driven games like Wolf Among US, Walking Dead.

If you don't like a game, sweet, there are other games out there. If you question why people like a specific game, you are just like the guy who says "why do you listen to country/classical/rap/rock/deathmetal/electronic/poka/industrial musical? That music is so bad and let me tell you why." Or people who hate cheese cake.

And there is a sub-set of the gaming world that are crazy and play Dota and Dark Souls. And there are people who play Eve, and they also admit they are crazy.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
August 12 2014 17:35 GMT
#122654
On August 13 2014 02:26 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 22:23 hootsushi wrote:
On August 12 2014 22:22 DaMuffinman wrote:
What games are you talking about?


Rise of the Tomb Raider, Quantum Break, Sunset Overdrive for example.

dont know about the others but why would you ever want to play another tomb raider? I bought the most recent on steam sale for $20 and felt I overpaid about $19. It's the most cliche next gen gaming bullshit that makes the entire industry aids. Easy as fuck, gaming with training wheels, insanely bad voice acting and writing, stupid story, and repetitive as shit, but the graphics were nice. It felt like a chore to finish that game, and it felt more like watching some shitty B-movie that made me hit E every now and again then any sort of actual interesting game play.

Sorry, anytime someone mentions or praises the new tomb raider I am forced to go on a pointless tirade about how tomb raider is the quintessential, flagship title, to highlight everything wrong in the gaming industry today. For every 1 "Dark Souls" we get 900 "Tomb Raiders", it's fucking obnoxious.

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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
August 12 2014 17:42 GMT
#122655
On August 13 2014 02:26 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 22:23 hootsushi wrote:
On August 12 2014 22:22 DaMuffinman wrote:
What games are you talking about?


Rise of the Tomb Raider, Quantum Break, Sunset Overdrive for example.

dont know about the others but why would you ever want to play another tomb raider? I bought the most recent on steam sale for $20 and felt I overpaid about $19. It's the most cliche next gen gaming bullshit that makes the entire industry aids. Easy as fuck, gaming with training wheels, insanely bad voice acting and writing, stupid story, and repetitive as shit, but the graphics were nice. It felt like a chore to finish that game, and it felt more like watching some shitty B-movie that made me hit E every now and again then any sort of actual interesting game play.

Sorry, anytime someone mentions or praises the new tomb raider I am forced to go on a pointless tirade about how tomb raider is the quintessential, flagship title, to highlight everything wrong in the gaming industry today. For every 1 "Dark Souls" we get 900 "Tomb Raiders", it's fucking obnoxious.

i miss tomb raider 2 and 3
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7086 Posts
August 12 2014 17:50 GMT
#122656
On August 12 2014 13:17 NB wrote:
im curious, most of the 6k 7k people get there by spam games where they pick solo mid/hard carry. So wouldnt a match making system matching them all together results terrible games? So in a sense, matching them with 4k-5k players would actually provide them some support pickers?

Also: who is the highest matchmaking player out there who play support mainly?


pretty sure fogged picks mostly supports and he's 6k+ AFAIK
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-12 17:58:38
August 12 2014 17:52 GMT
#122657
If people want to see the right way to do "quick time events", play the new Devil May Cry. They work that shit into the game play so you only notice what it was after the fact. Plus that game is the super dumb in all the right video game ways. Its like $5 every once and a while on steam and worth every penny.

Or Dead Space Prime and Dead Space 2. They make you mash on buttons to simulate the hero going "OMFG GET OFF ME!"

Edit: fuck everything else, Ninja Theory is making a new game called Hell Blade. I will fucking play anything that studio makes.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
August 12 2014 18:05 GMT
#122658
QTE can be done right. Plenty of games do it right.
Hell even darksiders does it right too with you being able to finish off some of the trash mobs with QTE if they're sufficiently low on health.

But if a shit ton of the game is just "Press X to clear this event!" it is just incredibly lame and the opposite of fun
QTE isn't bad, QTE games are imho.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
August 12 2014 18:06 GMT
#122659
On August 13 2014 02:24 Plansix wrote:
I feel Valve gives no fucks. If you rated them poorly, I think they try to avoid matching you with them.

I remember back in the days of SC2 when I was upset I couldn't pick my server. After playing Dota, I think that might have been the thing Blizzard got right and improved over time. The language issue aside, some the number of players who DC and complain about lag during my games are amazing. And then I see they are connecting across like three regions or my ping to their server is like 300-800.


The good/bad ratings are a way to reduce the number of people reporting people after a match. I think they covered these in a Dev Days talk (Mike Ambinder)
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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-12 18:15:27
August 12 2014 18:11 GMT
#122660
I would like to know your definition of a "niche game" if you think Dark Souls is one, rofl.

Dark Souls has now sold more than 2.3 million copies worldwide, developer From Software has announced.

That's from June 12th 2013
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