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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
August 12 2014 09:58 GMT
#122601
if ur ignoring ur team for 20 mins ur still doing it wrong
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-12 10:09:33
August 12 2014 10:05 GMT
#122602
For the most part, I'm speaking broadly but it's good that you can criticize even hypothetical situations.

The point remains in that as a carry, it feels more of a make/break situation.
edit: now that I think about it, initiators as well feel that way.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
August 12 2014 10:13 GMT
#122603
I only play carries that can wreck shit after a single item.

Believe it or not that's like all of them, apart from fucking dusa maybe
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-12 10:21:36
August 12 2014 10:14 GMT
#122604
On August 12 2014 19:05 Torte de Lini wrote:
For the most part, I'm speaking broadly but it's good that you can criticize even hypothetical situations.

The point remains in that as a carry, it feels more of a make/break situation.
edit: now that I think about it, initiators as well feel that way.

it sounded like ur idea of a hard carry just involved ricing constantly without team

but if you look at the hardest carries the majority can fight pretty early:
tiny, pl, morph, luna, void, spectre all do ok after like 1 item
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Daozzt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1263 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-12 11:03:56
August 12 2014 11:02 GMT
#122605
Unless you're Naga/AM/PL/TB most carries are able to contribute before 20 minutes and should tp to fights if they're not getting a good trade such as getting a tower or securing a key item.

Should also say though that if you know you're going to get rolled with your team don't tp.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
August 12 2014 11:25 GMT
#122606
am and pl can contribute for sure, naga even has song + net even if she doesnt want to do any actual fighting

no clue about tb
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
lprk
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2249 Posts
August 12 2014 11:29 GMT
#122607
On August 12 2014 20:25 Targe wrote:
am and pl can contribute for sure, naga even has song + net even if she doesnt want to do any actual fighting

no clue about tb

The problem with those heroes is that they have pretty high chance of dying while trying to contribute with 1 item while their contribution isn't too big, so it's pretty high risk medium reward play.
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
August 12 2014 11:36 GMT
#122608
does anyone know what the traffic stats of this website are like compared to when these forum sections still attached to TL?
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
August 12 2014 11:40 GMT
#122609
On August 12 2014 20:29 lprk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 20:25 Targe wrote:
am and pl can contribute for sure, naga even has song + net even if she doesnt want to do any actual fighting

no clue about tb

The problem with those heroes is that they have pretty high chance of dying while trying to contribute with 1 item while their contribution isn't too big, so it's pretty high risk medium reward play.

i guess thats what makes good carry play, knowing when to fight and help team
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-12 11:53:39
August 12 2014 11:48 GMT
#122610
tb owns early, you just need bracer + stick
i think bracer is op guys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
August 12 2014 11:53 GMT
#122611
terrorblade is actually quite a terror early game. Sunder makes you a unattractive target and your damage/spells are pretty decent
Mew Mew Pew Pew
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
August 12 2014 11:55 GMT
#122612
On August 12 2014 20:48 Erasme wrote:
tb owns early, you just need bracer + stick
i think bracer is op guys

BRACER ON EVERY HERO
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
August 12 2014 11:55 GMT
#122613
TB also has 7 starting armor and like 3 base regen
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
August 12 2014 12:01 GMT
#122614
On August 12 2014 18:58 Targe wrote:
if ur ignoring ur team for 20 mins ur still doing it wrong

If you feel yourself titling ignoring everyone and everything might save yoiur game and your day.

it keeps me sane when people just don't deserve freedom of speech
In the woods, there lurks..
Daozzt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1263 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-12 12:40:27
August 12 2014 12:37 GMT
#122615
TB can fight early but most of the time you're better off hitting their buildings like lycan. AM it's only worth if you can just blink in to get like 2 hits and a mana void kill then go back to farming. PL and Naga you're just wasting time-- there's a reason why some players skip net entirely until 10 or later.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
August 12 2014 12:42 GMT
#122616
i dont play carry very often but i believe you're mistaken
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Daozzt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1263 Posts
August 12 2014 12:44 GMT
#122617
Probably. Still think that if you're forced to actually show up to fights before 15 mins as PL/Naga you're probably going to lose the game.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
August 12 2014 12:45 GMT
#122618
On August 12 2014 21:44 Daozzt wrote:
Probably. Still think that if you're forced to actually show up to fights before 15 mins as PL/Naga you're probably going to lose the game.

Who is talking about forced? O.o
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 12 2014 13:04 GMT
#122619
PL can contribute to a fight early with some passable nuke damage and that slow. I mean, he isn't going to turn any fights around, but he can still add some thing to an engagement. I don't think he should be TP across the map to do so, but if he is near by, might as well throw down.

Or just play PA, get BKB, basher and go HAM.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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hootsushi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany3468 Posts
August 12 2014 13:15 GMT
#122620
Every game I wanted to play next year is suddenly Xbone exclusive, wtf is this shit lmao
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