• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 06:00
CEST 12:00
KST 19:00
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-69SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-64PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August)14Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE18
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) StarCraft 2 at SC4ALL II Invite #4/8 - Percival Protoss AoE skill expression 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) StarCraft 2 at SC4ALL II Invite #3/8 - Clem
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) Tasteless Time Warp: SC Evo Showmatch (May 25) SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-6
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance
Brood War
General
ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool Recent recommended BW games Making an Online Broodwar Manager Game ASL22 General Discussion [Personal Project Share] Terran Defense v0.60
Tourneys
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament - Season 3 SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-6
Strategy
Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Diablo 2 thread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live!
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
Iain M Banks Says He Has Cancer And Months To Live US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The Clem Fan Club INnoVation Fan Club The Scarlett Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
NBA General Discussion Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
What is a Gamer?
TrAiDoS
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4976 users

General Discussion - Page 6131

Forum Index > Dota 2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 6129 6130 6131 6132 6133 6534 Next
IRC chatter should remain in IRC - http://webchat.quakenet.org/?channels=tl.dota2

Posts that relate to topics with their own thread, such as in News, Tournaments or Strategy should go in those threads.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
August 12 2014 09:58 GMT
#122601
if ur ignoring ur team for 20 mins ur still doing it wrong
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-12 10:09:33
August 12 2014 10:05 GMT
#122602
For the most part, I'm speaking broadly but it's good that you can criticize even hypothetical situations.

The point remains in that as a carry, it feels more of a make/break situation.
edit: now that I think about it, initiators as well feel that way.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
August 12 2014 10:13 GMT
#122603
I only play carries that can wreck shit after a single item.

Believe it or not that's like all of them, apart from fucking dusa maybe
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-12 10:21:36
August 12 2014 10:14 GMT
#122604
On August 12 2014 19:05 Torte de Lini wrote:
For the most part, I'm speaking broadly but it's good that you can criticize even hypothetical situations.

The point remains in that as a carry, it feels more of a make/break situation.
edit: now that I think about it, initiators as well feel that way.

it sounded like ur idea of a hard carry just involved ricing constantly without team

but if you look at the hardest carries the majority can fight pretty early:
tiny, pl, morph, luna, void, spectre all do ok after like 1 item
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Daozzt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1263 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-12 11:03:56
August 12 2014 11:02 GMT
#122605
Unless you're Naga/AM/PL/TB most carries are able to contribute before 20 minutes and should tp to fights if they're not getting a good trade such as getting a tower or securing a key item.

Should also say though that if you know you're going to get rolled with your team don't tp.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
August 12 2014 11:25 GMT
#122606
am and pl can contribute for sure, naga even has song + net even if she doesnt want to do any actual fighting

no clue about tb
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
lprk
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2249 Posts
August 12 2014 11:29 GMT
#122607
On August 12 2014 20:25 Targe wrote:
am and pl can contribute for sure, naga even has song + net even if she doesnt want to do any actual fighting

no clue about tb

The problem with those heroes is that they have pretty high chance of dying while trying to contribute with 1 item while their contribution isn't too big, so it's pretty high risk medium reward play.
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
August 12 2014 11:36 GMT
#122608
does anyone know what the traffic stats of this website are like compared to when these forum sections still attached to TL?
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
August 12 2014 11:40 GMT
#122609
On August 12 2014 20:29 lprk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 20:25 Targe wrote:
am and pl can contribute for sure, naga even has song + net even if she doesnt want to do any actual fighting

no clue about tb

The problem with those heroes is that they have pretty high chance of dying while trying to contribute with 1 item while their contribution isn't too big, so it's pretty high risk medium reward play.

i guess thats what makes good carry play, knowing when to fight and help team
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-12 11:53:39
August 12 2014 11:48 GMT
#122610
tb owns early, you just need bracer + stick
i think bracer is op guys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
August 12 2014 11:53 GMT
#122611
terrorblade is actually quite a terror early game. Sunder makes you a unattractive target and your damage/spells are pretty decent
Mew Mew Pew Pew
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
August 12 2014 11:55 GMT
#122612
On August 12 2014 20:48 Erasme wrote:
tb owns early, you just need bracer + stick
i think bracer is op guys

BRACER ON EVERY HERO
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
August 12 2014 11:55 GMT
#122613
TB also has 7 starting armor and like 3 base regen
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
August 12 2014 12:01 GMT
#122614
On August 12 2014 18:58 Targe wrote:
if ur ignoring ur team for 20 mins ur still doing it wrong

If you feel yourself titling ignoring everyone and everything might save yoiur game and your day.

it keeps me sane when people just don't deserve freedom of speech
In the woods, there lurks..
Daozzt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1263 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-12 12:40:27
August 12 2014 12:37 GMT
#122615
TB can fight early but most of the time you're better off hitting their buildings like lycan. AM it's only worth if you can just blink in to get like 2 hits and a mana void kill then go back to farming. PL and Naga you're just wasting time-- there's a reason why some players skip net entirely until 10 or later.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
August 12 2014 12:42 GMT
#122616
i dont play carry very often but i believe you're mistaken
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Daozzt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1263 Posts
August 12 2014 12:44 GMT
#122617
Probably. Still think that if you're forced to actually show up to fights before 15 mins as PL/Naga you're probably going to lose the game.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
August 12 2014 12:45 GMT
#122618
On August 12 2014 21:44 Daozzt wrote:
Probably. Still think that if you're forced to actually show up to fights before 15 mins as PL/Naga you're probably going to lose the game.

Who is talking about forced? O.o
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 12 2014 13:04 GMT
#122619
PL can contribute to a fight early with some passable nuke damage and that slow. I mean, he isn't going to turn any fights around, but he can still add some thing to an engagement. I don't think he should be TP across the map to do so, but if he is near by, might as well throw down.

Or just play PA, get BKB, basher and go HAM.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
hootsushi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany3468 Posts
August 12 2014 13:15 GMT
#122620
Every game I wanted to play next year is suddenly Xbone exclusive, wtf is this shit lmao
Prev 1 6129 6130 6131 6132 6133 6534 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
RSL Revival
09:00
Season 6 - Playoffs Day 5
herO vs SHINLIVE!
Clem vs Solar
Serral vs Rogue
Tasteless977
Ryung 804
IntoTheiNu 633
ComeBackTV 415
RotterdaM405
IndyStarCraft 115
Rex87
CranKy Ducklings41
CranKy Ducklings SOOP7
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Tasteless 977
Ryung 804
RotterdaM 405
IndyStarCraft 115
Rex 87
StarCraft: Brood War
Larva 366
BeSt 350
firebathero 233
EffOrt 185
ZerO 116
Pusan 99
Dewaltoss 97
Leta 89
Mind 66
sorry 60
[ Show more ]
Sexy 57
sSak 44
HiyA 20
Stork 19
Barracks 19
Rush 11
Terrorterran 5
Dota 2
XcaliburYe132
League of Legends
JimRising 381
Counter-Strike
fl0m4816
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King108
Other Games
singsing517
Livibee54
ZerO(Twitch)7
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick661
BasetradeTV113
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 11
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH310
• 3DClanTV 89
• StrangeGG 55
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2192
League of Legends
• Jankos2086
Upcoming Events
Ladder Legends
8h
Ladder Legends
10h
RSL Revival
23h
OSC
1d 3h
OSC
1d 14h
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
The Patches Monday
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
PiG Sty Festival
3 days
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
7 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S3: W6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
Acropolis #5
RSL Revival: Season 6
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W7
CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
Escore Tournament S3: W8
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
Thunderpick World Champ.
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.