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misirlou
Profile Joined June 2010
Portugal3300 Posts
August 11 2014 16:55 GMT
#122481
On August 12 2014 01:49 fixed_point wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 01:46 misirlou wrote:
On August 11 2014 22:47 Plansix wrote:
Complaining about servers in Dota is like complaining about rain in America Football(they play in all weather). Pros need to step up their game and play on the field the game is being played on.

not really because one team can be playing on 120 ping while the other is on 40. On Handegg and on Football, both teams get rained on.

Not sure about handegg, but in soccer the sun can shine quite brightly in one team's eyes for the first half, and dimmer in the second half when they switch sides.

But they do a coin flip to determine who gets ball and who chooses side, and then they switch sides.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 11 2014 16:56 GMT
#122482
On August 12 2014 01:54 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 01:49 fixed_point wrote:
On August 12 2014 01:46 misirlou wrote:
On August 11 2014 22:47 Plansix wrote:
Complaining about servers in Dota is like complaining about rain in America Football(they play in all weather). Pros need to step up their game and play on the field the game is being played on.

not really because one team can be playing on 120 ping while the other is on 40. On Handegg and on Football, both teams get rained on.

Not sure about handegg, but in soccer the sun can shine quite brightly in one team's eyes for the first half, and dimmer in the second half when they switch sides.

Handegg has the problem that one team in from New England and has an open stadium, while the other is from Texas and practices in a dome. Also wind, the sun and crowd. Eagles stadium used to have fans that would scream while the visiting team would be calling out its plays(this is key, because they could change them after the huddle) and would be dead silent during the Eagles plays on offense.

Also they threw batteries from the stands onto the field, at the opposing teams players. And Santa Clause. Eagles fans are no joke.

Being at TI4 actually worried me a bit because there's limited amounts of protection from idiocy like this put in place in order to make the player experience as "normal" as possible since fans aren't that stupid. But I'm worried they may end up that stupid in a few years.
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misirlou
Profile Joined June 2010
Portugal3300 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-11 17:01:51
August 11 2014 16:58 GMT
#122483
On August 12 2014 01:54 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 01:49 fixed_point wrote:
On August 12 2014 01:46 misirlou wrote:
On August 11 2014 22:47 Plansix wrote:
Complaining about servers in Dota is like complaining about rain in America Football(they play in all weather). Pros need to step up their game and play on the field the game is being played on.

not really because one team can be playing on 120 ping while the other is on 40. On Handegg and on Football, both teams get rained on.

Not sure about handegg, but in soccer the sun can shine quite brightly in one team's eyes for the first half, and dimmer in the second half when they switch sides.

Handegg has the problem that one team in from New England and has an open stadium, while the other is from Texas and practices in a dome. Also wind, the sun and crowd. Eagles stadium used to have fans that would scream while the visiting team would be calling out its plays(this is key, because they could change them after the huddle) and would be dead silent during the Eagles plays on offense.

Also they threw batteries from the stands onto the field, at the opposing teams players. And Santa Clause. Eagles fans are no joke.


Other teams can do the same to Eagles when they play outside too but thats beyond the point, what does sportmanship has to do with the discussion?

€: Also your first point is mute. Not sure about handegg but most games on football are played twice (one home one away) and when they aren't they are mostly played on "neutral" field. On Champions League and UEFA cup Iberian teams get a lot of disadvantage when they go to play on subzero temperatures to poland/russia/ukraine but it evens out because they have to play on 20+ when they play the other game
fixed_point
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany4891 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-11 16:59:01
August 11 2014 16:58 GMT
#122484
On August 12 2014 01:55 misirlou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 01:49 fixed_point wrote:
On August 12 2014 01:46 misirlou wrote:
On August 11 2014 22:47 Plansix wrote:
Complaining about servers in Dota is like complaining about rain in America Football(they play in all weather). Pros need to step up their game and play on the field the game is being played on.

not really because one team can be playing on 120 ping while the other is on 40. On Handegg and on Football, both teams get rained on.

Not sure about handegg, but in soccer the sun can shine quite brightly in one team's eyes for the first half, and dimmer in the second half when they switch sides.

But they do a coin flip to determine who gets ball and who chooses side, and then they switch sides.

Ya, my point was that the choosing of a side can benefit one team more than the choice of kickoff. I also said that the sun tends to be dimmer when by halftime.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
August 11 2014 16:59 GMT
#122485
i know most of the flags in the world
but then again, im pretty much forced to
fucking higher education
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 11 2014 16:59 GMT
#122486
There are crazy people on the internet and some of them like video games. The thread of high speed D-batteries is real.

Its only a matter of time before someone does somethign really dumb. The key will be for everyone to be like "fuck that guy", rather than "Fuck (insert team-fans/nationality/LoL players).
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fixed_point
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany4891 Posts
August 11 2014 17:01 GMT
#122487
On August 12 2014 01:59 Plansix wrote:
There are crazy people on the internet and some of them like video games. The thread of high speed D-batteries is real.

Its only a matter of time before someone does somethign really dumb. The key will be for everyone to be like "fuck that guy", rather than "Fuck (insert team-fans/nationality/LoL players).

Also, lasers man. The way everything is set up right now people can point a laser directly at a player's eye.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-11 17:04:36
August 11 2014 17:02 GMT
#122488
On August 12 2014 01:58 misirlou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 01:54 Plansix wrote:
On August 12 2014 01:49 fixed_point wrote:
On August 12 2014 01:46 misirlou wrote:
On August 11 2014 22:47 Plansix wrote:
Complaining about servers in Dota is like complaining about rain in America Football(they play in all weather). Pros need to step up their game and play on the field the game is being played on.

not really because one team can be playing on 120 ping while the other is on 40. On Handegg and on Football, both teams get rained on.

Not sure about handegg, but in soccer the sun can shine quite brightly in one team's eyes for the first half, and dimmer in the second half when they switch sides.

Handegg has the problem that one team in from New England and has an open stadium, while the other is from Texas and practices in a dome. Also wind, the sun and crowd. Eagles stadium used to have fans that would scream while the visiting team would be calling out its plays(this is key, because they could change them after the huddle) and would be dead silent during the Eagles plays on offense.

Also they threw batteries from the stands onto the field, at the opposing teams players. And Santa Clause. Eagles fans are no joke.


Other teams can do the same to Eagles when they play outside too but thats beyond the point, what does sportmanship has to do with the discussion?

Well when it comes to servers, its just home field advantage. One team gets it and the other team deals with it. Then you switch and move on. No one cries about it and just accepts it as part of the game.

On August 12 2014 02:01 fixed_point wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 01:59 Plansix wrote:
There are crazy people on the internet and some of them like video games. The thread of high speed D-batteries is real.

Its only a matter of time before someone does somethign really dumb. The key will be for everyone to be like "fuck that guy", rather than "Fuck (insert team-fans/nationality/LoL players).

Also, lasers man. The way everything is set up right now people can point a laser directly at a player's eye.


People already do it to planes and green lasers(which is fucking illegal, do not do that, you can get people killed and they will fucking find you). Where is that EG Gunner Glasses sponsorship when you need them. There is a selling point right there. Fucking Laser Resistant. I already want a pair.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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misirlou
Profile Joined June 2010
Portugal3300 Posts
August 11 2014 17:07 GMT
#122489
On August 12 2014 01:58 fixed_point wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 01:55 misirlou wrote:
On August 12 2014 01:49 fixed_point wrote:
On August 12 2014 01:46 misirlou wrote:
On August 11 2014 22:47 Plansix wrote:
Complaining about servers in Dota is like complaining about rain in America Football(they play in all weather). Pros need to step up their game and play on the field the game is being played on.

not really because one team can be playing on 120 ping while the other is on 40. On Handegg and on Football, both teams get rained on.

Not sure about handegg, but in soccer the sun can shine quite brightly in one team's eyes for the first half, and dimmer in the second half when they switch sides.

But they do a coin flip to determine who gets ball and who chooses side, and then they switch sides.

Ya, my point was that the choosing of a side can benefit one team more than the choice of kickoff. I also said that the sun tends to be dimmer when by halftime.

It really depends on leagues though. UK plays mostly from like 13 to 20 whereas in Portugal games don't start before 18.
But my point is, in football it evens out because you almost always play twice. Once with advantage and another with disadvantage.

On dota if EU plays NAE and its a bo3 either
a) all games are played on the same server because of league rules/location and one team gets handicaped
b) one of the teams plays one more game on their server
c) they play a 3rd game on a "neutral server" that given the location of both teams will still benefit one over the other (NAW or Russian) or they play like on SEA and the game might as well not be played and decide it by coinflip
fixed_point
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany4891 Posts
August 11 2014 17:10 GMT
#122490
On August 12 2014 02:02 Plansix wrote:
People already do it to planes and green lasers(which is fucking illegal, do not do that, you can get people killed and they will fucking find you). Where is that EG Gunner Glasses sponsorship when you need them. There is a selling point right there. Fucking Laser Resistant. I already want a pair.


So some players will have: a pair of gunner glasses, a pair of regular glasses*, 1 headset for microphone, a pair of noise-cancelling headphones, and a pair of earphones? Sounds fun.

*they might have to switch to contacts if they want the gunner glasses, but I've seen 3D movies with 2 pairs of glasses without problems.
Valhalla44
Profile Joined May 2010
Bosnia-Herzegovina983 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-11 17:21:28
August 11 2014 17:13 GMT
#122491
Seems im getting good with razor (tanky cores ez, who would it thought :D)

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misirlou
Profile Joined June 2010
Portugal3300 Posts
August 11 2014 17:17 GMT
#122492
On August 12 2014 02:10 fixed_point wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 02:02 Plansix wrote:
People already do it to planes and green lasers(which is fucking illegal, do not do that, you can get people killed and they will fucking find you). Where is that EG Gunner Glasses sponsorship when you need them. There is a selling point right there. Fucking Laser Resistant. I already want a pair.


So some players will have: a pair of gunner glasses, a pair of regular glasses*, 1 headset for microphone, a pair of noise-cancelling headphones, and a pair of earphones? Sounds fun.

*they might have to switch to contacts if they want the gunner glasses, but I've seen 3D movies with 2 pairs of glasses without problems.

I think you can get gunars with "graduation". How do I english this? This came from google translate but sounds odd. I mean prescription lenses on gunars (word for it in portuguese is "graduadas" which translates into that)
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-11 17:20:11
August 11 2014 17:19 GMT
#122493
On August 12 2014 02:13 Valhalla44 wrote:
Seems im getting good with razor (tanky cores ez, would would it thought :D)

this aint the brag thread
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
August 11 2014 17:38 GMT
#122494
yeah come to think of it anyone could easily throw heavy shit at the casters if they wanted to.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
August 11 2014 17:39 GMT
#122495
Hey, I'm watching dendi's stream and he seems to have lag, like all the people in his game?

Is this affecting everyone? Thanks!
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 11 2014 17:41 GMT
#122496
To be fair, events don’t often have the secret, super powerful ingredient that causes the majority of these bad decisions possible.

Booze. You have to be truly hammered to throw a D-battery at Tobi or Santa-Clause.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-11 17:48:55
August 11 2014 17:43 GMT
#122497
the only thing keeping people from using casters heads as target practice is that beers are like 9 bucks.
and also that the average age is probably around 19-20.
The VIP section had hard liquor though and nowhere else did.
VIP section is silly. I snuck in day2 with the help of a cool security guard and the view was atrocious. only advantage is you get to see pros without lines. def not worth the $350 extra or w/e it is. they didnt even have hd tvs they just had these oldschool tvs with a crappy picture and washed out colors.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
August 11 2014 17:49 GMT
#122498
On August 12 2014 02:43 PassiveAce wrote:
the only thing keeping people from using casters heads as target practice is that beers are like 9 bucks.
and also that the average age is probably around 19-20.
The VIP section had hard liquor though and nowhere else did.
VIP section is silly. I snuck in day2 with the help of a cool security guard and the view was atrocious. only advantage is you get to see pros without lines. def not worth the $350 extra or w/e it is. they didnt even have hd tvs they just had these oldschool tvs with a crappy picture and washed out colors.

took me a second to realise why this would be a problem
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 11 2014 17:51 GMT
#122499
some province in canada is voting to raise the drinking age to 21 I think. Its pretty dumb.

Let kids drink at 16 or w/e, it allows them to learn to drink responsibly. Making kids wait till 21 to be "legal" just ends up in them making all the wrong associations with booze and basically learning to problem drink when they start drinking at 16-18 instead of to drink intelligently.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 11 2014 17:54 GMT
#122500
Its funny because a lot of people agree with that in the US, but no one is willing to deal with the 2-5 years from rampant drunk driving and other stupidity that would because by lowering the drinking age. And the stupidity would be full teenage drunk stupidity, which is the highest level of drunk stupid.
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