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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
August 11 2014 00:58 GMT
#122321
you realize even if you get those ganks off, blink dagger doesn't do anything for storm's scaling later into the game

also delays your guaranteed disable item by quite a bit, even if you make it up with successful ganks.

and you're also assuming you can't gank without an orchid lmao
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
August 11 2014 01:09 GMT
#122322
On August 11 2014 09:45 Erasme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 09:39 TMG26 wrote:
On August 11 2014 08:50 Erasme wrote:
On August 11 2014 08:20 rudimentalfeelthelov wrote:
You do 96dmg with lvl 1 ulti if you initiate at 1200 range and use like 35% of your mana pool and after the combo you are most likely out of mana to chase and you've done 400dmg at best. Totally different situation if you have blink though.

and if you were able to manage your mana properly you wouldnt need a blink


Did you even read the post right?


Blink dagger on Storm makes you able to Solo kill pretty much any one early on thanks to the mana savings.

You can gank just too well. Also, instant stun.

I actually dare you to play 5 Storm games with dagger first storm, and gank as soon as you get it, and then tell your experience.

i only needed one game of it to see how terrible it is
maybe its faster when storm only has lvl 1 ball, but at 11 its clearly worse

not that im supporting that dagger build but storm with a dagger will eliminate the early BKB activation dont you think? If you zap in there is still a chance S4 gona pop his bkb in time and RP you.
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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
August 11 2014 01:12 GMT
#122323
On August 11 2014 09:55 TMG26 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 09:45 Erasme wrote:
On August 11 2014 09:39 TMG26 wrote:
On August 11 2014 08:50 Erasme wrote:
On August 11 2014 08:20 rudimentalfeelthelov wrote:
You do 96dmg with lvl 1 ulti if you initiate at 1200 range and use like 35% of your mana pool and after the combo you are most likely out of mana to chase and you've done 400dmg at best. Totally different situation if you have blink though.

and if you were able to manage your mana properly you wouldnt need a blink


Did you even read the post right?


Blink dagger on Storm makes you able to Solo kill pretty much any one early on thanks to the mana savings.

You can gank just too well. Also, instant stun.

I actually dare you to play 5 Storm games with dagger first storm, and gank as soon as you get it, and then tell your experience.

i only needed one game of it to see how terrible it is
maybe its faster when storm only has lvl 1 ball, but at 11 its clearly worse


That is the point, it's for the early ganks. So that you don't have to wait for the orchid to gank. Or pray for an haste/dd rune.

i feel like i dont need to ask ur mmr
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
August 11 2014 01:15 GMT
#122324
It's not amazing but it certainly has uses, blink as an item is so broken atm that it literally is viable on every hero. Basically if it say, secures you an extra kill or two and saves your life once or twice the item is already worth it, not to mention the continuous increase in efficiency in just walking around.

It's certainly nowhere near as bad as something like manta first potm
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
August 11 2014 01:21 GMT
#122325
apparently i ping higher to euw than eue.
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Fwizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines4420 Posts
August 11 2014 01:27 GMT
#122326
Wtf is moonmeander playing songs that he sang?
wairai
Profile Joined May 2012
Malaysia1000 Posts
August 11 2014 01:37 GMT
#122327
I think I did see Storm buying blink/force staff

in Dota 1.

roflol. I may indeed buy blink just for the lulz though.
Yungin' Leanin' with Pourple Drink
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
August 11 2014 01:38 GMT
#122328
i am the anti rng lord ladies and gentlemen
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
August 11 2014 01:47 GMT
#122329
On August 11 2014 10:27 Fwizzz wrote:
Wtf is moonmeander playing songs that he sang?

Yeah. I've heard like 3-4 so far that he has sang.

This is amazing.
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hootsushi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany3468 Posts
August 11 2014 01:48 GMT
#122330
On August 11 2014 10:47 TheEmulator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 10:27 Fwizzz wrote:
Wtf is moonmeander playing songs that he sang?

Yeah. I've heard like 3-4 so far that he has sang.

This is amazing.


This is worse than RTZ stream and that's saying something.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
August 11 2014 01:49 GMT
#122331
I don't know the song name, but that one song with the Kenny G saxophone in it is amazing. Some of Moon's best work
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tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7080 Posts
August 11 2014 02:38 GMT
#122332
are mjollnir/maelstrom procs muted by duel?

and if you have a mjollnir can you shield yourself before duel to get even more procs?


because if mjollnir goes through duel it seems absurdly broken
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Mecha King Ghidorah
Profile Joined April 2014
United States595 Posts
August 11 2014 03:10 GMT
#122333
Apparently the reason certain heroes don't have sets is because you CANT make them for that hero rather than being overlooked like I always thought.
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tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7080 Posts
August 11 2014 03:28 GMT
#122334
On August 11 2014 12:10 Mecha King Ghidorah wrote:
Apparently the reason certain heroes don't have sets is because you CANT make them for that hero rather than being overlooked like I always thought.


yeah bane/jakiro/io/nightstalker/visage/zeus/AA/some other heroes don't have broken down models released that you could use to make items
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Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
August 11 2014 03:29 GMT
#122335
okay rofl. Just saw RNGeus at work. A void on my team backtracked 6 attacks/dmg while on 20hp. Including a finger. I was dead, so I was counting out loud on the dota chat the amount of stuff he backtracked through haha
Mew Mew Pew Pew
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
August 11 2014 03:30 GMT
#122336
On August 11 2014 12:10 Mecha King Ghidorah wrote:
Apparently the reason certain heroes don't have sets is because you CANT make them for that hero rather than being overlooked like I always thought.


It does vary because often the heroes are either getting reskinned or for a while, their models were not updated to allow for set pieces. They may have all the models updated now though so not sure about that one. But heroes do require their base models and many did not have them (the bald Cm was due to her base model appearing).
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Mecha King Ghidorah
Profile Joined April 2014
United States595 Posts
August 11 2014 03:41 GMT
#122337
Damn, well it is nice to know that Viper and the others arn't getting overlooked because no one really likes them.
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Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
August 11 2014 03:47 GMT
#122338
Well I imagine it has to do with a variety of variables. Potential reskin, base model, and general probability of items even working. For example, it is easier to make a set for a hero like Furion over a hero like Wisp that lacks certain characteristics. Of course there can be something added, but not the easiest hero to come up with.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
August 11 2014 03:50 GMT
#122339
All of my favorites are going to be really hard to get items for. Bane Visage Phoenix.

Eventually they will, but I'm curious how they will do it.
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tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7080 Posts
August 11 2014 03:58 GMT
#122340
we already know SF is getting a remodel, we're almost certainly going to get a zeus and viper remodel as well
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